What resources would you most like to see available in Logos?

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  • Al
    Al Member Posts: 105 ✭✭

    One more review of Bayler:

    For those of us called to lead worship regularly, trying to find appropriate material can be difficult. We are in debt to Bayler for his series of books based on the Revised Common Lectionary, years A, B, and C. He has a gift for language, his responsive readings, prayers, and other guides are outstanding. I've used most of the other resources for worship in the last 17 years, resources of all denominations, but I believe that this is clearly far and away the best. I have never been disappointed with the suggestions made for each Sunday.

  • HJ. van der Wal
    HJ. van der Wal Member Posts: 1,783 ✭✭✭

     

    I think an Islamics collection would be great, if there was enough interest.

    I, for one, would be interested. Especially if such a collection contained material on Islamic philosophy and/or on hadith.

    The Shorter Encyclopaedia of Islam (E.J.Brill 1953) would probably be too technical and too expensive for most users (not to mention EI, 2nd edition), but some good reference work on Islam would come in handy.

    I would also like to suggest one apologetic work - sorry Martha - published by Intervarsity Press:

    Colin Chapman, Cross and Crescent: Responding to the Challenge of Islam (ISBN 9781844741922).

    Ceterum censeo Mishnam in lingua hebraica primum edendam esse!

  • First Reformed Harrisburg
    First Reformed Harrisburg Member Posts: 127 ✭✭

    Joel Osteen sermon library and Osteen commentary set?

    John Weathersby

    Harrisburg, PA.

    www.transcendchurch.org

  • Brian Leathers
    Brian Leathers Member Posts: 89 ✭✭

    The works of J.Gresham Machen and Michael Scott Horton.

  • nicky crane
    nicky crane Member Posts: 1,374 ✭✭✭

    I'd love an encyclopaedia of Islam.  And Hadith.  

    Martha,  I think you'd like Colin Chapman.  He writes with respect and his books have helped me to understand Muslims better and see things more the way they do.  I think you'd like the other authors I mentioned too.  Most of them aim to help us see how the world looks through the eyes of Muslims.  I don't like polemics.  Last year I forced a somewhat aggressive young Islamist to admit that  he could find no basis in the Qur'an for the first 2 arguments he threw at me.  Then I got him to agree that I had neither insulted the Qur'an nor denied his right to believe it when it disagreed with the Bible.  I suggested he might also refrain from attacking my Holy Book and allow me the right to believe my Holy Book when it disagreed with the Qur'an.   And I suggested that, rather than arguing, we might listen to one another and try to understand one another.  As I was a guest of his extended family, other family members supported me.  We agreed to allow one another to differ, talking about the differences as "clash points".  Then I was free to say whatever I wanted, prefacing it with "according to the Bible".  Thus he and the rest of the family heard of the claims of Jesus, "according to the Bible".  I was able to tell him and them lots of Bible stories.  The best, maybe, was when he said that if you keep the whole law but commit Shirk (e.g. believe in Jesus as Son of God, or believe that we can become children of God) you will go to hell.  Next day I came back and said that we had another "clash point" here:  According to the Bible, if you keep all the Law but do not accept Jesus as the Saviour sent by God, you have no hope of Heaven.  Knowing what he believed enabled me to share very freely what the Bible says.  No, they have not come to faith in Jesus - but God does promise that his Word will not return to him without achieving his purpose.  I continue to pray for them.  I think this sort of dialogue may be  used by God as a stepping stone toward faith.  In our Bektashi Muslim village, the few women who have come to faith in Jesus were those serious enough about their faith to want to learn about God.  The only person who  offered to teach them more than "God is one", which they already knew, was myself.  I have never attacked Islam.  But some of those who have learned about Jesus have also met him and put their faith in him.  So I'm not into debate, but it's very important to me to understand where people are and to see life as much as possible through their eyes.  Hence I recommend books which have helped me do that, or by authors whose other books have helped me do that.

  • Bohuslav Wojnar
    Bohuslav Wojnar Member Posts: 3,477 ✭✭✭

    ...Hence I recommend books which have helped me do that, or by authors whose other books have helped me do that.

    "Mosques and Miracles" written by Dr. Stuart Robinson is really eye-opening book in the subject. He really knows what he is speaking about.

    Bohuslav

  • Matthew C Jones
    Matthew C Jones Member Posts: 10,295 ✭✭✭

     No, they have not come to faith in Jesus - but God does promise that his Word will not return to him without achieving his purpose.  I continue to pray for them.  I think this sort of dialogue may be  used by God as a stepping stone toward faith.

    I wholeheartedly agree. My prayers are with you as you live in this delicate enviroment. Continue to show them the love of Jesus and leave the increase to God. I hope we have a Logos Islamic Collection soon to equip us for a more productive dialogue. I worked with a young Islamic man who knew the Bible better than most Christians, and knew his Qur'an as well.

    My answer to the original poster's question is:


    1) The Annals of the World" by James Ussher
    2) Historical travel diaries and surveys like
      a. Carpenter's Travels
      b. Stoddard's Lectures
      c. "Beacon Lights of History" by John Lord, George Spencer Hulbert
      d. "World Epochs" series by The United States Flag Association 1936
    3) Restoration Movement works
      a. "The Christian Baptist" by Alxander Campbell
      b. "The Millenial Harbinger" by Alexander Campbell
      c. "The Works of B. W. Stone" by Elder James M. Mathes
      d. Writings of Walter Scott
      e. Writings of David Lipscomb, including "Gospel Advocate Commentary" & GA periodical.
      f  James Burton Coffman Commentaries (OT & NT)
    4) Oliver B. Greene library
    5) John Rice library
    6) Sword of the Lord pamphlets collection
    7) M.R. DeHann pamphets (I have a boxful!) see http://www.logos.com/products/details/2146
    8) more books by Ray Comfort
     see http://www.logos.com/ebooks/details/OVRCMPANIC
      &  http://www.logos.com/products/details/2804
      &  http://www.logos.com/products/details/4515

     

    Logos 7 Collectors Edition

  • Jacob Hantla
    Jacob Hantla MVP Posts: 3,874

    Puritan Paperback series by Banner of Truth. Actually the entire Banner of Truth library.

    Jacob Hantla
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  • Edwin Bowden
    Edwin Bowden Member Posts: 1,363 ✭✭✭

    Ray Stedman books. They're available in PDF from Peninsula Bible Church

  • Mike S.
    Mike S. Member Posts: 477 ✭✭

    Mike S. said:

    Honor, Patronage, Kinship & Purity: Unlocking New Testament Culture by David Arthur DeSilva

    Done: http://www.logos.com/products/details/2961

     

    Sold!

     

  • Mathew Voth
    Mathew Voth Member Posts: 287 ✭✭

    Not sure if anyone has mentioned Baker's Commentary Set on the Wisdom and Psalms, but these are a must have!

  • George Somsel
    George Somsel Member Posts: 10,153 ✭✭✭

    Logos has added so many resources lately.  What is left that you would most like to see added?

    A morph search that works properly (bring back the L3 method) and notes at least a good as in L3.

    george
    gfsomsel

    יְמֵי־שְׁנוֹתֵינוּ בָהֶם שִׁבְעִים שָׁנָה וְאִם בִּגְבוּרֹת שְׁמוֹנִים שָׁנָה וְרָהְבָּם עָמָל וָאָוֶן

  • Rosie Perera
    Rosie Perera Member Posts: 26,194 ✭✭✭✭✭

    This is a fine thread, but I hope you all realize this is not the place to get your requests heard by Logos. I'm not sure they even have time to read the General forum. The best way to get requests seen is email them to suggest (at) logos (dot) com, because that goes right into an email Inbox at Logos and they'll log them in a database somewhere. Second best is post them in the Suggestions forum. That's second best because someone has to keep on top of the forum and sometimes they don't have time to read everything. They never respond on the Suggestions forum so it sometimes feels like a black hole. The email address does too, but at least you know it's going to some Inbox somewhere (it doesn't bounce) and won't get lost in the shuffle. There is also one more place to make resource suggestions: the wiki Product Wishlist page. We have not heard any recent word from Logos that they're actually paying any attention to it, so it's mostly a duplicate place for you to post your suggestions so that others can quickly see if something they are requesting has already been suggested. If you just want to send in the request once, use the email address.

  • Danny Zacharias
    Danny Zacharias Member Posts: 186 ✭✭✭

    An interactive map and interactive timeline is something that is surprisingly missing from Logos IMO.  The Accordance map and timeline is unparalleled by any other software, but there is no reason it should stay that way.

  • JT (alabama24)
    JT (alabama24) MVP Posts: 36,523

    Danny - Please see the previous post for some helpful suggestions. Also, note the date of the previous post! [;)]

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  • Ted Hans
    Ted Hans MVP Posts: 3,173

    I know he is already represented to a degree, but it would be good to have the complete collection of the works of Dr Martyn Lloyd-Jones... I am thinking particularly of his lectures on Romans...

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  • Stephen Paynter
    Stephen Paynter Member Posts: 206 ✭✭

    Okay, this is easy ...

       all the good academic journals not already available, but especially:

    • Journal for the Study of the New Testament (JSNT)
    • Journal for the Study of the Old Testament  (JSOT)
    • New Testament Studies (NTS)
    • Novum Testamentum (NT)
    • Vetus Testamentum (VT)
    • Journal of Biblical Literature (JBL)  - The early missing years

    Quickly followed by:

    • Biblica
    • Bulletin for Biblical Research
    • Scottish Journal of Theology
    • Scottish Journal of Systematic Theology
    • Biblical Interpretation
    • Interpretation
    • Havard Theological Review
    • Journal of Theological Studies
    • Theology
    • Theology Today
    • Zeitschrift für die Alttestamentliche Wissenschaft 
    • Zeitschrift für die Neutestamentliche Wissenschaft und die Kunde der Älteren Kirche

    Also some of the missing "evangelical" and "Reformed" journals from the Galaxie collections, such as:


    • Calvin Theological Journal


    • Evangelical Quarterly

    Also, I would love more classic scholarship books on Acts. First and foremost:


    • Foakes Jackson and Krisopp Lake's, "The Beginnings of Christianity Part 1: The Acts of the Apostles" (5 volumes;

      • Vol. 1 Prolegomena (1920);


      • Vol. 2: Prolegomena Criticism (1922);


      • Vol. 3 The Text (1926);


      • Vol. 4 Translation and Commentary (1933);


      • Vol 5 Additional Notes (1933)


      • Then there is the book that made scholars take Luke-Acts seriously as a single work in 2 volumes:


    • Henry J. Cadbury, "The Making of Luke-Acts", 2nd Edition, 1958 (1st Edition, 1927)


    • Leander E. Keck and J. Louis Martyn (eds), Studies in Luke-Acts (in honour of Paul Schubert), Fortress Press (Philadelphia), 1966.


    • A modern supplement of Jackson and Lake's is the Eerdmans Series "The Book of Acts in its First Century Setting"
      • Vol. 1 The Book of Acts in its Ancient Literary Setting, Winter and Clarke (eds) - 1994
      • Vol. 2 The Book of Acts in its Graeco-Roman Setting, Gill and Gempf (eds) - 1994
      • Vol. 3 Paul in Roman Custody, Rapske, 1994
      • Vol. 4 The Book of Acts in its Palestinian Setting, Bauckham (ed) - 1995
      • Vol. 5 The Book of Acts in its Diaspora Setting, Levinskaya - 1996
      • Witness to the Gospel: The Theology of Acts, Marshall and Peterson (eds) 1998.
    • Also highly desirable are following conservative works:
      • Colin J, Hemer, The Book of Acts in the Setting of Hellenistic History", Eisenbrauns (Winona Lake: Indiana), 1989
      • W. Ward Gasque, A History of the Interpretation of the Acts of the Apostles, Wipf and Stock Publishers (Eugene: Oregon, 1989

    Some of the important pro- and con- New Perspective on Paul resources, including:

    •  Krister Stendahl's Paul Among Jews and Gentiles
    • J.D.G. Dunn's collection of papers, "The New Perspective on Paul"
    • N.T. Wright's "Climax of the Covenant"
    • Justification and Variegated Nomism", Baker Academic, 2001, 2004. (Edited by Carson, O'Brien and Seifrid).
    • Stephen Westerholm, "Perspectives New and Old on Paul: The Lutheran Paul and his Critics"

    I would also love to see the some works of classic philosophy:

         Pre-Socratics; Plato; Aristotle; Descartes; Locke; Rousseu; Hume; Berkeley Kant; Russell; Ayer; Gilbert; Austin e.t.c.

    The Church Fathers in Greek and Latin

    Oh, and Francis Turretin's "Institutes of Elentic Theology" (in English!)

    Spurgeon's Sword and Trowel volumes that deal with the Downgrade Controversy.

     

    So ... not much then!

     

  • Stephen, O a, backing you again, in particular on the journals. It would be good if the publishing houses, would release the current journals via subscription in Logos, the same time that they release the paper ones. While it is being prepared for publication, Logos could start the tagging, and release the digital version, shortly after the print version, (depending on the amount of tagging that is needed) or even the same time the print version is needed.

    It is costly to ship these journals overseas, and besides, I would rather have them in Logos anyway.

    Mission: To serve God as He desires.

  • George Somsel
    George Somsel Member Posts: 10,153 ✭✭✭

    all the good academic journals not already available, but especially: … Quickly followed by: …

    , etc.

    All in all a pretty good list.  You might note that Turretin is in Community Pricing http://www.logos.com/product/6837/institutio-theologiae-elencticae

    george
    gfsomsel

    יְמֵי־שְׁנוֹתֵינוּ בָהֶם שִׁבְעִים שָׁנָה וְאִם בִּגְבוּרֹת שְׁמוֹנִים שָׁנָה וְרָהְבָּם עָמָל וָאָוֶן

  • Stephen Paynter
    Stephen Paynter Member Posts: 206 ✭✭


    You might note that Turretin is in Community Pricing http://www.logos.com/product/6837/institutio-theologiae-elencticae


    If I remember correctly, that is the Latin version ... both the English and Latin version would be cool, but the Latin version alone ... not so useful to those of us who are language impaired ... !

  • George Somsel
    George Somsel Member Posts: 10,153 ✭✭✭


    You might note that Turretin is in Community Pricing http://www.logos.com/product/6837/institutio-theologiae-elencticae

     

    If I remember correctly, that is the Latin version ... both the English and Latin version would be cool, but the Latin version alone ... not so useful to those of us who are language impaired ... !


    Oh, come on now, every schoolboy reads Latin !  [;)]  [:D]  Oh well, here's a chance to brush up on it.

    george
    gfsomsel

    יְמֵי־שְׁנוֹתֵינוּ בָהֶם שִׁבְעִים שָׁנָה וְאִם בִּגְבוּרֹת שְׁמוֹנִים שָׁנָה וְרָהְבָּם עָמָל וָאָוֶן

  • Philana Crouch
    Philana Crouch Member Posts: 2,151 ✭✭✭

    The Life Application Study Bible

    NIV Archealogical Study Bible

  • Milford Charles Murray
    Milford Charles Murray Member Posts: 5,004 ✭✭✭


    Oh, come on now, every schoolboy reads Latin !  Wink  Big Smile  Oh well, here's a chance to brush up on it.

    Peace!

    Maybe one could use translate.google.com?                  The resource is going to be less than $10.00.  What we need are a lot more good Logosites to sign up for it.  Indeed!

                                                                                                                   Psalm 65:5


        5     beatus quem elegeris et susceperis habitabit enim in atriis tuis replebimur bonis domus tuae sanctificatione templi tui
        6     terribilis in iustitia exaudi nos Deus salvator noster confidentia omnium finium terrae et maris longinqui
        7     praeparans montes in virtute tua accinctus fortitudine [1]
         




        [1] Biblia Sacra : Psalmi iuxta Hebraicum et Varia Lectio. 1969 (electronic edition of the 3rd edition) (Ps 64:5–7). Stuttgart: Deutsche Bibelgesellschaft.


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  • The Paraclete Ministry
    The Paraclete Ministry Member Posts: 10 ✭✭

    The Annals of the World by James Ussher, in English...

    God Bless - Jeremiah 29:11

  • Tes
    Tes Member Posts: 4,035 ✭✭✭

    NIV Study bible

    Die Gute Nachricht Bibel in German

     

     

    Blessings in Christ.

  • Randall Lind
    Randall Lind Member Posts: 328 ✭✭

    I like to see The Celebrate Recovery Bible and the 4 work books

  • Johann
    Johann Member Posts: 93 ✭✭

    The latest translations in other languages, specifically German. 

  • Tes
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  • Steve Walker
    Steve Walker Member Posts: 4 ✭✭

    A lot of good suggestions here. Is Logos interested in these requests? Do they want our input? Is there a way they could have user generated product requests like pre-pubs that "gather interest"? There are so many good books unavailable in Logos.

    Did anyone suggest Graeme  Goldsworthy's books?

  • Ken McGuire
    Ken McGuire Member Posts: 2,074 ✭✭✭

    Some that would have relatively wide appeal...

    Bauckham's Jesus and the Eyewitnesses

    Kaesemann's Romans

    Barth's Romans

    Walter Raushenbusch

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  • fgh
    fgh Member Posts: 8,948 ✭✭✭

    Is Logos interested in these requests?

    They are if you mail them to suggest@logos.com and/or post them in the Suggestions forum. Whether the right people see something that's wished for in the General forum is considerably more doubtful.

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  • Luigi sam
    Luigi sam Member Posts: 31 ✭✭

    Torah Commentary: Midrash Rabbeinu Bachya (7-volume set)

  • Jerry Bush
    Jerry Bush Member Posts: 1,150 ✭✭✭

    My Utmost For His Highest - the updated edition that was put out in the 90's with the NIV as the base text.

     

    Still waiting on this. [:D]

    Jerry

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  • Matthew C Jones
    Matthew C Jones Member Posts: 10,295 ✭✭✭

    My Utmost For His Highest - the updated edition that was put out in the 90's with the NIV as the base text.

     

    Still waiting on this. Big Smile

    Jerry

    This post & another today (about the One Year Bible) have me wondering if these type of resources can be version independent in Logos and allow users to choose from any Bible versions they have in their library to display references from that particular version. Or would that be a sticky copyright issue?

     

    Logos 7 Collectors Edition

  • Stephen Ornelas
    Stephen Ornelas Member Posts: 2 ✭✭

    I have a question which kinda goes with this topic. I'm trying to rationalize purchasing a LOGOS 5 plan, and i don't want to just purchase a whole bunch of material which will either go unread, or keep me from viewing the resources which I am most interested in. I'm loving the idea of the timeline, so at this point i'm looking at either a Gold plan or a Platinum plan. The thing is, i've been researching Apologetics and Patristics with a friend, and am seriously considering purchasing these three sets from Amazon.com; (or have been for over 2 years) - but am closer to pulling the trigger. In everything else, I have switched from purchasing books in print, and have moved to either Kindle, iBooks, Zinio, Kno, or  iTunes-U. I have a Macbook, & an iPad2 to work with.  I've also downloaded Olive Tree, Bible.com's App, and a number of other "free" App versions of Bible study or Scripture diving  - but have not picked one as a solid winner to start investing in a large library with. in fact, all the books i've purchased in iOS have either been free in app purchases, or less than $2.99.

    What i'm looking to purchase in digital format are these books from Amazon (however Amazon doesn't offer this in digital format): 

    • The Ante-Nicene Fathers (10 Volume Set) by A. Cleveland Coxe Hardcover $299.00
      The Ante-Nicene Fathers ranges from the Apostolic Fathers to various third and fourth century sources including the liturgies and ancient Syriac documents. It was intended to comprise translations into English of all the extant works of the Fathers (with the exception of the more bulky works of Origen) down to the date of the first General Council held at Nicaea in 325 A.D. This American edition by Arthur Cleveland Coxe is a revision of the original series edited by Alexander Roberts and Sir James Donaldson and published in Edinburgh. The revision involves a major rearrangement to conform to the historical sequence, the addition of brief introductions and notes indicating variances in readings, specifying references to scripture or literature, clarifying obscure passages, and noting corruptions or distortions of patristic testimony (as forged in the Decretals). The basic aim of the translations has been to strive for literary exactness, placing the English reader as nearly as possible on an equal footing with those who are able to read the original.
      Volume Titles:
      Volume 1: Apostolic Fathers, Justin Martyr, Inrenaeus
      Volume 2: Hermas, Tatian, Athenagoras, Theophilus, Clement of Alexandria
      Volume 3: Tertullian
      Volume 4: Tertullian (IV), Minucius Felix, Commodian, Origen
      Volume 5: Hippolytus, Cyprian, Caius, Novatian, Appendix
      Volume 6: Gregory Thaumaturgus, Dionysius the Great, Julius Africanus, Anatolius and Minor Writers, Methodius, Arnobius
      Volume 7: Lactantius, Venantius, Asterius, Victorinus, Dionysius, Apostolic Teaching and Constitutions, Homily, and Liturgies
      Volume 8: Twelve Patriarchs, Excerpts and Epistles, The Clementina, Aprocryphal Gospels and Acts, Syriac Documents
      Volume 9: Gospel of Peter, Diatessaron, Testament of Abraham, Epistles of Clement, Origen and Miscellaneous Works
      Volume 10: Bibliography, General Index, Annotated Index of Authors and Works
       
    • Nicene and Post-Nicene Fathers: Second Series, 14 Volumes by Alexander Roberts Hardcover $267.29The Nicene and Post-Nicene Fathers: Second Series contains in fourteen volumes the works of the Greek Fathers from Eusebius to John of Damascus and the Latin Fathers from Hilary to Gregory the Great. Several of the writings appear for the first time in English. The first three volumes are a complete collection of the historical writings of the Fathers, whose permanent value as the primary sources is universally acknowledged. Other volumes contain the works of eminent figures in early Christian history, such as Athanasius, Jerome, and Ambrose. The series concludes with the canons and decrees of the seven ecumenical councils, as well as canons of local synod with ecumenical acceptance. The Second Series is edited by Philip Schaff, eminent church historian and professor at Union Theological Seminary, NY, and Henry Wace, Principal of Kings College, London.

      Volume Titles:Volume 1: Eusebius: Church History, Life of Constantine the Great, Oration in Praise of ConstantineVolume 2: Socrates, Sozomenus: Church HistoriesVolume 3: Theodoret, Jerome, Gennadius, Rufinus: Historical WritingsVolume 4: Anthanasius: Selects Works and LettersVolume 5: Gregory of Nyssa: Dogmatic Treatises, etc.Volume 6: Jerome: Letters and Select WorksVolume 7: Cyril of Jerusalem, Gregory NazianzenVolume 8: Basil: Letters and Select WorksVolume 9: Hilary of Poitiers, John of DamascusVolume 10: Ambrose: Select Works and LettersVolume 11: Sulpitius Severus, Vincent of Lerins, John CassianVolume 12: Leo the Great, Gregory the GreatVolume 13: Gregory the Great, Ephraim Syrus, Aphrahat
      Volume 14: The Seven Ecumenical Councils
       

    I guess what i'm asking, is are these covered in any one Plan of Logos 5? Am i being too overzealous in my quest for study. I'm looking at the plans and all I see from the list is a reference to Early Christian Fathers. I wonder to what degree these early Christian works are made available in Logos 5. I hear many people say that Logos 5 is worth every penny, and that spurs on my smile, and thought that if i make an investment in scripture, i can't go wrong, unless i just don't read. while I hear others look at me like i'm trying to purchase every language that Rosetta Stone offers. Should i just stick with the next language i'm looking to learn (eg: purchase a lighter plan and just start to fall in love with LOGOS gradually?) or is it better - given that the search factors in the specific questions you are looking for - to just dive into the faith and absorb as much as i can before i come up for air?

  • NB.Mick
    NB.Mick MVP Posts: 16,157

    Stephen,

    welcome to the Logos user forums.

    The resources you mention are part of the ECF collection available in a protestant and a catholic edition:

    you'll see to the right of the screen the L5 packages where each of the two are contained. The Amazon Hardcover prices are ridiculous, given the fact that the Logos versions are searchable, linked and linkable etc.

    Hope this helps,

    Mick

    Have joy in the Lord! Smile

  • Ken McGuire
    Ken McGuire Member Posts: 2,074 ✭✭✭

    I guess what i'm asking, is are these covered in any one Plan of Logos 5? Am i being too overzealous in my quest for study. I'm looking at the plans and all I see from the list is a reference to Early Christian Fathers. I wonder to what degree these early Christian works are made available in Logos 5. I hear many people say that Logos 5 is worth every penny, and that spurs on my smile, and thought that if i make an investment in scripture, i can't go wrong, unless i just don't read. while I hear others look at me like i'm trying to purchase every language that Rosetta Stone offers. Should i just stick with the next language i'm looking to learn (eg: purchase a lighter plan and just start to fall in love with LOGOS gradually?) or is it better - given that the search factors in the specific questions you are looking for - to just dive into the faith and absorb as much as i can before i come up for air?


    The sets you mention above are what Logos calls "Early Church Fathers".  For some more information about the Logos version, please see the product page at http://www.logos.com/product/5771/early-church-fathers-protestant-edition They are included in Silver and up collections.

    As far as picking a package?  The higher level packages are expensive, but they do include a lot of resources - including a lot of standard reference works that to purchase in any format would be expensive.  You know what you can afford financially.  In general, Logos tries to make the bigger packages into bigger deals, but how "good" those deals are is dependent on what you are interested in.

    SDG

    Ken McGuire

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  • Unix
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    Disclosure!
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  • Stephen Ornelas
    Stephen Ornelas Member Posts: 2 ✭✭

    NB.Mick said:

    Stephen,

    welcome to the Logos user forums.

    The resources you mention are part of the ECF collection available in a protestant and a catholic edition:

    you'll see to the right of the screen the L5 packages where each of the two are contained. The Amazon Hardcover prices are ridiculous, given the fact that the Logos versions are searchable, linked and linkable etc.

    Hope this helps,

    Mick

    ,

    Mick, 

    Thank you very much - this answers my question, and i appreciate it greatly. [:D]

    I hadn't seen that the Early Church Fathers came in two different sets: Protestant Edition & Catholic Edition. What's more is there is a link that shows me the authors in the sets. I love it! Thank you thank you thank you. PS: Thank you LOGOS 5. I think this just helped me make my decision. One last  question - is all this content accessed via online search database through LOGOS 5, or is actually downloaded to the device itself?

     

    Guided by Him, 

    Stephen

  • Unix
    Unix Member Posts: 2,192 ✭✭✭

    If You want the Catholic Edition, one option is to buy a minimum base-package at http://www.logos.com/verbum that contains it - if You want the additional books/Bibles.

    I hadn't seen that the Early Church Fathers came in two different sets: Protestant Edition & Catholic Edition.

    With very few exceptions all content is downloaded to Your internal drive (Logos 5 can't be installed on an external drive) and then indexed. After that You don't need an internet connection, You access Your books from the drive. For faster search response an SSD might be a good investment.
    The only exceptions are the Faithlife Community that's on the internet and a few items that come on a CD or DVD, such as Catholic Practicum: Learn to Use Logos Bible Software, Biblical Archaeology Review collection (up to 2005, not sold anymore on the logos site, can perhaps be purchased second-hand), The Essential IVP Reference Collection Version 3 (if purchased second-hand (cheaper), Learn to Do Word Studies with Logos Bible SoftwareLearn to Use Biblical Greek and Hebrew with Logos Bible Software, Introducing New Testament Discourse Grammar: Video Series, but all those can be copied to the HDD or SSD, as I've understood it an external one will function.

    One last  question - is all this content accessed via online search database through LOGOS 5, or is actually downloaded to the device itself?

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  • Ron Cook
    Ron Cook Member Posts: 110 ✭✭

    Celebration of Discipline--Richard Foster

    Knowledge of the Holy--A.W. Tozer (I don't know why this isn't in the Tozer collection)

    Foxe's Book of Martyrs (Searched Logos.com for this a few days ago and was very surprised not to find it).

    Christian Counseling material from the integrationist perspective.

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  • Ronald Quick
    Ronald Quick Member Posts: 2,983 ✭✭✭

    Foxe's Book of Martyrs was available in Libronix through another company, but I'm not sure if it still is?

  • Aaron C. Fenlason
    Aaron C. Fenlason Member Posts: 81 ✭✭

    The unabridged Hebrew-Aramaic Lexicon!!!

    I believe he was referring to : http://cal1.cn.huc.edu/

    I would also like to see this, along with:

    1. New English Translation of the Septuagint (NETS)

    2. More patristics in Greek

    3. Lampe's Patristic Greek Lexicon

  • Martin Sacks
    Martin Sacks Member Posts: 8 ✭✭

    My Utmost For His Highest - the updated edition that was put out in the 90's with the NIV as the base text.

     

    Still waiting on this. Big Smile

    Jerry

    I would love to see this too. My absolutely favorite devotional and the updated version would be so awesome adapted for Logos! Has anybody from Logos responded to this request with answers about timing, copyright or other information?