Barnes is on the Move

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TCBlack | Forum Activity | Replied: Thu, Aug 12 2010 5:21 AM

@Paul and others, WHY?  Why do you want Barnes so badly? 

I'm working on a potential blog post for Barnes and want your input.

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Paul Newsome | Forum Activity | Replied: Thu, Aug 12 2010 6:16 AM

Top 5 reasons that I wouldn't add in your blog post Wink

- I'm tired of just talking to Matthew Henry
- It would be pennies on the dollar when it ships
- Spurgeon gave us permission to like it Stick out tongue 
- I seem to have more than enough free copies of just the NT notes on "other" Bible software
- Its been so long!

...sorry that doesn't really help; Any others?? 

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Jack Caviness | Forum Activity | Replied: Thu, Aug 12 2010 9:03 AM

Thomas Black:
Why do you want Barnes so badly? 

Maybe, because it is there? That seems to be a favorite of mountain climbers. Why do people climb mountains? Because they're there. Big Smile

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Floyd Johnson | Forum Activity | Replied: Thu, Aug 12 2010 9:13 AM

I like his devotional thoughts.  He also has a reasonable amount of helpful application to 19th century life - and by default to ours (hey, the Bible is even older and we have not problem using it - even recognizing the authority of the author).  I do find myself going to a competing product regularly to skim/read Barnes.  Having Barnes available in LOGOS could stop this bad habit.  Smile

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Ron | Forum Activity | Replied: Thu, Aug 12 2010 10:35 AM

Paul:
I seem to have more than enough free copies of just the NT notes on "other" Bible software

I've seen that said a few times now.  That's not truly the case, is it?  I'm not in front of my computer with e-sword at the moment, but I'm almost positive that the free e-sword module has both OT and NT.

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Paul Newsome | Forum Activity | Replied: Thu, Aug 12 2010 1:14 PM

Ron Keyston Jr:

Paul:
I seem to have more than enough free copies of just the NT notes on "other" Bible software

I've seen that said a few times now.  That's not truly the case, is it?  I'm not in front of my computer with e-sword at the moment, but I'm almost positive that the free e-sword module has both OT and NT.

OK, you got me.  Not every Bible software but the two others I have tried give you just the NT for free.  Back to "Barnes On The Move"

 

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Scott Warren | Forum Activity | Replied: Thu, Aug 12 2010 8:11 PM

It's hard to say why I enjoy Barnes so much. In Esword I have 22 commentaries. If I'm quickly trying to study something I go to Calvin, Poole and Barnes to see what they say. Barnes just has a way of saying it that makes it feel more like I'm having a conversation with a pastor instead of having a theologian tell me what they think. I have Barnes notes in the Word, Esword yet I bid 90 dollars for it because I enjoy it that much. I hope to some day by the paper edition of it too because it is a commentary I love to sit back in a comfortable chair and read. I don't know if that helps you with your post but that is why I enjoy Barnes so much.

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Disciple of Christ (doc) | Forum Activity | Replied: Fri, Aug 13 2010 8:05 PM

And while you putting in your bid or increasing your bid for Barnes don't foget Hasting Dictionaries. http://community.logos.com/forums/t/21456.aspx . 

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Thomas Myers | Forum Activity | Replied: Fri, Aug 13 2010 8:41 PM

So, how can you tell that Barnes is at 60%?

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Disciple of Christ (doc) | Forum Activity | Replied: Fri, Aug 13 2010 8:47 PM

Actually looks closer to 70% now... you can see it from the graph on the community pricing page.

http://www.logos.com/communitypricing/details/2132

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Donovan R. Palmer | Forum Activity | Replied: Sat, Aug 14 2010 12:51 AM

Yes, it has shifted again and is almost straddling to the two lines. In overall perspective, Barnes has made huge moved in the last few months compared to the many months before. It seems everyone is mainly bidding around the $30 mark, which is making it go very slow for this 10,000 page resource.  If everyone would bid $40, it would more go more quickly over the top and more than likely sell for $30 or less anyhow do to the last rush crowd.

Barnes has become a bit of a landmark on the Logos website!

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Levi D. | Forum Activity | Replied: Sat, Aug 14 2010 3:55 PM

After reading this blog post on Community Pricing, I maxed out my bid. 

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Scot Jefferies | Forum Activity | Replied: Sat, Aug 14 2010 4:21 PM

Levi D.:
After reading this blog post, I maxed out my bid. 

Levi - That is a great post from the past by Phil Gons.  Thanks for refreshing it.

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Levi D. | Forum Activity | Replied: Sat, Aug 14 2010 4:29 PM

You're welcome, I should have said more in my post.

What Phil Gons pointed out was basically that Community Pricing is counter-intuitive. We naturally want to bid for the lowest price, but it doesn't work the best that way. The more people who bid higher, the lower the price is driven for everyone. Since you can cancel your bid at any time, even afterwards when it goes pre-pub, there's no reason not to just max out your bid!

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David Gullick | Forum Activity | Replied: Sat, Aug 14 2010 8:52 PM

I read that blog a little while ago, but didn't do anything afterwards. I've now pushed my Community pricing bids up to the maximum. Once community pricing offers get close to 100% the price always drops dramatically anyway.

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Dave Hooton | Forum Activity | Replied: Sat, Aug 14 2010 11:11 PM

Donovan R. Palmer:
Barnes has become a bit of a landmark on the Logos website!

Even when it goes a watermark may remain.Big Smile

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garry Hill | Forum Activity | Replied: Sun, Aug 15 2010 3:28 AM
Hi logos and mvps, Mvps can you recommend to logos and logos can you give my idea the once over. When a bid is placed on a community resource or especially if a resource has enough bids but they are all or mostly too low, can you send an email stating the pitfalls of low bidding and the protection that they can always with draw the bid at the last minuets. Which might stop the stagnation of resources in the list and also benefit logos in having a larger resource pool to attract new customers. As stated the email could go out to all bids, or to only stagnant  resources or just as a reminder to everyone every now and again or a short to the point blog post! What do you think? Thank you Garry

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Dave Hooton | Forum Activity | Replied: Sun, Aug 15 2010 8:30 AM

garry Hill:
When a bid is placed on a community resource or especially if a resource has enough bids but they are all or mostly too low, can you send an email stating the pitfalls of low bidding and the protection that they can always with draw the bid at the last minuets.

With Barnes it might be a good idea for Logos to email those who placed low bids. It's been such a long time that they may have forgotten and the recent trend upward should be a good motivator. Perhaps Logos could email all with a range of options:-

  • low bids remain --> what the other bidders need to do to bring it to 100%
  • low bids are moved to the current minimum bid --> what the other bidders need to do
  • what all current bidders need to do to bring it to 100%

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Paul Newsome | Forum Activity | Replied: Tue, Aug 17 2010 7:50 PM

I've noticed that the $25 position has been on a consistent rise as of late but the high mark really hasn't moved...

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Jeremy | Forum Activity | Replied: Tue, Aug 17 2010 8:10 PM

I thought this thread was going to be about Mark Barnes switching to Accordance

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