Smart Tags Problem

I have Word 2007 on Windows 7 64Bit, I followed the setup from the Wiki article, but they still don't work. Are there any issues with 64Bit OS? Does anyone have them working on 64Bit Windows 7 with Word 2007?

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  • Kevin Becker
    Kevin Becker Member Posts: 5,604 ✭✭✭

    I installed the new Beta, went over to Word 2007 to follow the instructions to activate the use of the Smart Tags. Everything works fine. I'm running a 64bit Win7. Perhaps there is a problem with Word?

  • Mark Smith
    Mark Smith MVP Posts: 11,798

    I have the same software you have and Smart Tags are working for me.

    Pastor, North Park Baptist Church

    Bridgeport, CT USA

  • Frank Sauer
    Frank Sauer Member Posts: 1,758 ✭✭✭

    For those who have this problem with Word 2007 - when you type for example John 3:16 - are you hitting the space bar or just stopping your typing after the 6? If the latter try the former and let us know if you get the purple underline then.

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  • Ben
    Ben Member Posts: 278

    Kevin

    what about office 2010? I have office 2010 on windows 7 system.

     

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  • Kevin Becker
    Kevin Becker Member Posts: 5,604 ✭✭✭

    I don't have 2010 but others have reported that it works, although it doesn't underline

    http://community.logos.com/forums/p/22037/164878.aspx#164878

  • Mitch Davis
    Mitch Davis Member Posts: 502 ✭✭

    I don't have 2010 but others have reported that it works, although it doesn't underline

    http://community.logos.com/forums/p/22037/164878.aspx#164878

    Kevin,

    In the Add-Ins section of the MS 2007 "Word Options" do you see "Logos Bible Software 4 (Bible References) under the "Active Application Add-ins? 

  • Kevin Becker
    Kevin Becker Member Posts: 5,604 ✭✭✭

    Kevin,

    In the Add-Ins section of the MS 2007 "Word Options" do you see "Logos Bible Software 4 (Bible References) under the "Active Application Add-ins? 

    Yes, I do.

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  • Dave Hooton
    Dave Hooton MVP Posts: 35,767

    It appears to be case sensitive so try Jn 3.2 and not jn 3.2.

    Dave
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    Windows 11 & Android 13

  • Rosie Perera
    Rosie Perera Member Posts: 26,202 ✭✭✭✭✭


    For those who have this problem with Word 2007 - when you type for example John 3:16 - are you hitting the space bar or just stopping your typing after the 6? If the latter try the former and let us know if you get the purple underline then.


    I have Word 2007 and it's not working for me either. I've enabled SmartTags by following the instructions, and the checkboxes are still on when I open Word Options back up again to double-check, and Logos Bible Software 4 (Bible references) is listed among the active add-ins, as it should be:

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    I type a space after John 3:16 and no purple underline shows up, nor any image icon. I've got Logos 4.1 Beta 9 running. I've tried closing and restarting them both, and still no dice. Would log files help with this? I would think probably not since the code to do something with the typing in Word isn't even coming from logos4.exe but should be in L4SmrtTg.dll. But how can I tell if the DLL is even getting loaded and called? Does it generate its own log files?

  • Dave Hooton
    Dave Hooton MVP Posts: 35,767

    the checkboxes are still on when I open Word Options back up again to double-check, and Logos Bible Software 4 (Bible references) is listed among the active add-ins

    And your Smart Tag window looks like Step 5 in the Article?

    I had to persevere with a few references + space before it worked - it seemed like an intelligent learning process!

    Dave
    ===

    Windows 11 & Android 13

  • Rosie Perera
    Rosie Perera Member Posts: 26,202 ✭✭✭✭✭

    And your Smart Tag window looks like Step 5 in the Article?

    Yup, except I don't have Outlook e-mail recipients turned on, but I don't want them on, and that shouldn't make any difference:

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    I had to persevere with a few references + space before it worked - it seemed like an intelligent learning process!

    An intelligent learning process for you or for the software to learn your habits? It still hasn't "learned" how to do this for me, in spite of me having typed in all kinds of references with spaces before and after, done as abbreviations or book name fully spelled out, with proper capitalization all the time. Sigh! Fortunately, I'm just testing this feature, it's not one I ever relied on in L3, so I'm not too put out by the fact that it doesn't work for me. But I'd sure like to know why, in case it's something Logos needs to fix.

  • Frank Sauer
    Frank Sauer Member Posts: 1,758 ✭✭✭

    In Word Options under the Advanced Tab scroll down to "Show Document Control" and be sure the "Show Smart Tags" option is checked. Do you get a response at all if you hover the pointer over the scripture reference?

     

    One other thing we need to look at which would be strange, but I noticed in Kevin's screen grab he had V3 Smart Tags installed, as have I. Rosie did not. Could this be an issue? It be interesting to see if those who cannot get Smart Tags to work do not have V3 Smart Tags installed.

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  • BillS
    BillS Member Posts: 3,805 ✭✭✭

    No joy here.... here's my setup. Tried all the suggestions in this thread. No joy... As you can see, it APPEARS to be installed correctly (right side), but there are no underlines (left side) or smart tag menus.

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    Only the L3 Smart Tag works (right above the L4 Smart Tag, unchecked at the moment).

    Grace & Peace,
    Bill


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  • Rosie Perera
    Rosie Perera Member Posts: 26,202 ✭✭✭✭✭

    In Word Options under the Advanced Tab scroll down to "Show Document Control" and be sure the "Show Smart Tags" option is checked. Do you get a response at all if you hover the pointer over the scripture reference?

    OK, that was something I didn't have turned on. But I just turned it on and still no joy, no dice, no soap, no such luck, etc.

  • BillS
    BillS Member Posts: 3,805 ✭✭✭


    In Word Options under the Advanced Tab scroll down to "Show Document Control" and be sure the "Show Smart Tags" option is checked. Do you get a response at all if you hover the pointer over the scripture reference?

    Hi Frank,

    Mine was already checked, but L4 Smart Tags still aren't working for me.

    Blessings!

    Grace & Peace,
    Bill


    MSI GF63 8RD, I-7 8850H, 32GB RAM, 1TB SSD, 2TB HDD, NVIDIA GTX 1050Max
    iPhone 12 Pro Max 512Gb
    iPad 9th Gen iOS 15.6, 256GB

  • Dave Hooton
    Dave Hooton MVP Posts: 35,767

    I had to persevere with a few references + space before it worked - it seemed like an intelligent learning process!

    An intelligent learning process for you or for the software to learn your habits?

    I should have prefixed the word with "artificial"!

     

    Dave
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    Windows 11 & Android 13

  • Frank Sauer
    Frank Sauer Member Posts: 1,758 ✭✭✭

    Bill,

    Looking at your setup, one thing that stands out different than mine and could very possibly have Word confused is that you have both the Logos and the Time Smart Tags checked. It may be looking at the scripture reference as both scripture and time, try unchecking the Time Smart Tag and going through the process.

     

    BillS said:

    No joy here.... here's my setup. Tried all the suggestions in this thread. No joy... As you can see, it APPEARS to be installed correctly (right side), but there are no underlines (left side) or smart tag menus.

    image

    Only the L3 Smart Tag works (right above the L4 Smart Tag, unchecked at the moment).

     

    Logos 10 - OpenSuse Tumbleweed, Windows 11, Android 15 & Android 14

  • Frank Sauer
    Frank Sauer Member Posts: 1,758 ✭✭✭

    Just wondering have you tried temporary disabling the other Active Addins from Adobe and the others. The only reason I ask is that I only have the two Logos Smart Tags and Outlook running. Wonder if one of the 3rd Party addins could be preventing it.

     

    In Word Options under the Advanced Tab scroll down to "Show Document Control" and be sure the "Show Smart Tags" option is checked. Do you get a response at all if you hover the pointer over the scripture reference?

    OK, that was something I didn't have turned on. But I just turned it on and still no joy, no dice, no soap, no such luck, etc.

     

    Logos 10 - OpenSuse Tumbleweed, Windows 11, Android 15 & Android 14

  • Rosie Perera
    Rosie Perera Member Posts: 26,202 ✭✭✭✭✭

    Just wondering have you tried temporary disabling the other Active Addins from Adobe and the others. The only reason I ask is that I only have the two Logos Smart Tags and Outlook running. Wonder if one of the 3rd Party addins could be preventing it.

    Good try, but no cigar. I just disabled all the other add-ins except Logos SmartTags and restarted Word, and still no SmartTags. I've tried "training" it some more. Nada. Could any other Word options be interfering with it? AutoCorrect? Check spelling while you type? I tried turning those both off and it didn't help.

    I tried enabling some other SmartTag (Dates) and that worked. So it's just the Logos Biblical references that aren't working. I wonder if I have the right version of L4SmrtTg.dll? Here's what I've got: 

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    Anyone else?

  • Danny Parker
    Danny Parker Member Posts: 437 ✭✭

    Works fine with Office 2010 and Windows 7 32 bit. It does not highlight the verse reference, but a right click on the reference does the copy fine.

  • Graham Criddle
    Graham Criddle MVP Posts: 32,636

    I wonder if I have the right version of L4SmrtTg.dll? Here's what I've got: 

    Hi Rosie

    I have the same version of the DLL.

    Just wonder if its worth checking the "Security" tab to see if you have access to the DLL. Can't think why you wouldn't but worth checking.

    Graham

  • JimTowler
    JimTowler Member Posts: 1,383 ✭✭✭

    Vista-32 and Word 2007 seems to be working fine for me.

    Thanks Logos, this is an important addition!!!

  • spitzerpl
    spitzerpl Member Posts: 4,998

    I remember back in the L3 days having to reboot my puter to get Smart Tags working right, even though all the right boxes were checked. It couldn't hurt

  • Melissa Snyder
    Melissa Snyder Member Posts: 4,702 ✭✭✭

    BillS said:

    No joy here.... here's my setup. Tried all the suggestions in this thread. No joy... As you can see, it APPEARS to be installed correctly (right side), but there are no underlines (left side) or smart tag menus.

    Bill ~  Try uninstalling Logos Smart Tags for Libronix DLS 3 from Control Panel. If that alone doesn't work, close all Microsoft Office programs, then run the Logos4.msi file in C:\Users\[username]\AppData\Local\Logos4\Install\Installers. Choose Repair if prompted.

  • Melissa Snyder
    Melissa Snyder Member Posts: 4,702 ✭✭✭

    Yes, I do.

    Kevin ~ Try the same thing I suggested to Bill. Try uninstalling Logos Smart Tags for Libronix DLS 3 from Control Panel. If that alone doesn't work, close all Microsoft Office programs, then run the Logos4.msi file in C:\Users\[username]\AppData\Local\Logos4\Install\Installers. Choose Repair if prompted. It might not hurt to rename the Logos 4 Smart Tag DLL first. Path is shown in your screenshot.

  • Frank Sauer
    Frank Sauer Member Posts: 1,758 ✭✭✭

    Ok, I was playing around a little bit this morning.

    1. I had both V3 & V4 Logos Smart Tags active.

    2. If I did not have Logos already open and used a Smart Tag it'd open V3

    3. Disabled V3 Smart Tag in Word and restarted Word

    4. V4 Smart Tags would not work

    5. Open V4 then the V4 Smart Tags work perfectly.

    So it appears the main difference based on this quick research is that unlike the V3 Logos Smart Tags, V4 has to already be open to recognize the scripture references. For those that could not get the Smart Tags to work, did you have Logos 4 open?

     

    Edit: Also If I have V4 closed and type Scripture references in Word, when I open Logos 4 they are recognized within seconds.

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  • Melissa Snyder
    Melissa Snyder Member Posts: 4,702 ✭✭✭

    So it appears the main difference based on this quick research is that unlike the V3 Logos Smart Tags, V4 has to already be open to recognize the scripture references. For those that could not get the Smart Tags to work, did you have Logos 4 open?

    Correct. Here's an excerpt from the Logos Smart Tags support article referenced in the Release Notes:  You must be running Logos 4.1 (at the same time as Microsoft Office) for the smart tag recognizer to work.

  • Mitch Davis
    Mitch Davis Member Posts: 502 ✭✭

    I also began playing around and noticed when Smart Tags worked and did not work.

     

    DOES NOT WORK:

     

    • When Logos is not running (okay, that is obvious now).
    • When the "Label text with smart tags" check box is NOT selected. (this feature is found in the AutoCorrect dialog box).

     

    I have found the smart tags consistently "not work" until I have the box selected.

  • Mike Measley
    Mike Measley Member Posts: 293 ✭✭

    I have installed Beta 9, and am running Office 2010.  I do not have the Logos action:

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    Nor do I have the addin:

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    I did reboot after the install, started logos, and then started word.  Any suggestions?

     

     

    Windows 7, Nexus 7

  • Fred Greco
    Fred Greco Member Posts: 494 ✭✭

    Working fine for me on Office 2010, Win7 Pro 64

    Fred Greco
    Senior Pastor, Christ Church PCA, Katy, TX
    Windows 10 64-bit; Logos 7.1 SR-2 (Reformed Platinum)

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