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Bohuslav Wojnar | Forum Activity | Replied: Sat, Jan 28 2012 8:54 AM

Steve, I just found it. Great tool. Thank you man for your excellent work. Yes

Bohuslav

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steve clark | Forum Activity | Replied: Sat, Jan 28 2012 9:21 AM

Hi Rob,

Rob Hattingh:
It would be wonderful though if it could work in WinXP (SP3) with Word 2003 + Word 2007 [Docx] capability.

This is not the problem of L4-Bibl2, i believe this is Logos4's problem. i ran into it early on in ver 4.3. But according to the release notes for ver 4.5, images to PB's is supposed to work with Word 2003 docx files with pictures:

From 4.5 release notes:
Fixed bug that prevented images from displaying in the compiled resource when the .docx file was created in Word 2003. (See this thread.)

So are you using Logos4 ver 4.5?

I have not upgraded to 4.5 so i cannot verify this.

 

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steve clark | Forum Activity | Replied: Sat, Jan 28 2012 1:59 PM

Bohuslav Wojnar:
Steve, I just found it. Great tool.

Thanks Bohuslav, glad you like it!

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steve clark | Forum Activity | Replied: Mon, Jan 30 2012 7:08 AM

Hi LimJK,

Thanks for the suggestions.

items:

1. This may be doable, i will have to give it some thought.

2. This is not doable. There are no markers in the database relating to collections and the books. (thus why Logos hasn't added collections to the Library window).

3. This is doable. But i don't have 1000 books to test it with. i am concerned about: memory issues, how Word will handle this volume, some user's machines that are slow may seem to take forever, etc. This is why i capped the list at 300. It seemed silly to just copy all the books without the user selecting a method for easily locating relevant books; otherwise why not just use the Library?

Thanks, i will think about these suggestions

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Ben | Forum Activity | Replied: Mon, Jan 30 2012 8:23 AM

Steve,

Thanks for your cool tools.

I have installed my logos 4 on local disk D(not Disk C), when I used the tool, but this error...

help! thanks!

Ben

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steve clark | Forum Activity | Replied: Mon, Jan 30 2012 12:52 PM

Ben,

Ben:
I have installed my logos 4 on local disk D(not Disk C), when I used the tool, but this error...

Here is a temp version to help me see what path the program thinks L4 is using. You should get a similar error, but it will show more info in the pop-up box. Below is the temp version (you may need to use Control Panel to remove the current version first before installing the temp version).

<remove temp version>

After you install it, please post another picture of the error box.

Thanks!

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Ben | Forum Activity | Replied: Mon, Jan 30 2012 5:49 PM

Steve,

I have installed the version,but this program does't point to correct folder .

mz4voikv.x4v not my folder, mine xglsbnje.z4x is.

Ben

 

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steve clark | Forum Activity | Replied: Mon, Jan 30 2012 6:15 PM

Hi Ben,

Thanks for doing this. Could you please open Windows explorer as shown below. i need to see the folder(s) which are immediately inside of the Data folder. Obviously my algorithm for discovering the special folder isn't working, so i really need to see how many folders and their names are inside of  D:\Logos Bible Software 4.0\Data


 

Thanks in advance

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Ben | Forum Activity | Replied: Mon, Jan 30 2012 6:47 PM

Hey Steve,

Look this

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steve clark | Forum Activity | Replied: Mon, Jan 30 2012 6:55 PM

Ben you need to go up one level so i can see the special folder(s)

The pic below shows how to move up one level of folders <removed old image>

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Ben | Forum Activity | Replied: Mon, Jan 30 2012 9:10 PM

Thanks Steve,

Thanks 

Ben

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steve clark | Forum Activity | Replied: Mon, Jan 30 2012 9:41 PM

Ben,

Seems that you probably have different Special folders for Documents verses Data. i haven't seen this before on my L4 system. So i have adjusted the program to look for unique folders for both. This may not be the problem, but this is my best guess for now. So let's try to install the new temp version below. Hopefully this will work for you.

<removed temp version>

Please install this version (you may need to use Control Panel to uninstall the older version first).

Please let me know if this works or post an image of the error window.

Thanks for your help!

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Ben | Forum Activity | Replied: Mon, Jan 30 2012 10:20 PM

Steve,

Thanks very much! and your useful tools. now ok!

pretty tools!

God blessings.

Ben

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steve clark | Forum Activity | Replied: Mon, Jan 30 2012 10:41 PM

Ben:

hanks very much! and your useful tools. now ok!

pretty tools!

Great!!!

Thank you for your patience and help!

EDIT: updated webpage and download file with new version with the fix

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LimJK | Forum Activity | Replied: Tue, Jan 31 2012 12:34 AM

steve clark:

1. This may be doable, i will have to give it some thought.

2. This is not doable. There are no markers in the database relating to collections and the books. (thus why Logos hasn't added collections to the Library window).

3. This is doable. But i don't have 1000 books to test it with. i am concerned about: memory issues, how Word will handle this volume, some user's machines that are slow may seem to take forever, etc. This is why i capped the list at 300. It seemed silly to just copy all the books without the user selecting a method for easily locating relevant books; otherwise why not just use the Library?

Steve, thanks for your reply and considerations ...

(1) Further suggestion, May be you might consider listing the order by filename instead of the title .... at least is should work for many of the Series. for the others we can manually adjust them :-)

(3) I found the limit of 300 by accident ... as I was working on a subgroup of commentaries with 340 Resources and I have just under 8000 resources. Therefore, the reason I am suggesting a 1000 limit. I Understand the memory issue for slower machines ... maybe if you can consider just to increase the limit by a little :-)

Thanks once again

JK

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steve clark | Forum Activity | Replied: Thu, May 10 2012 9:59 AM

Made a change to locate the L4 special folder to use the Registry for L4. This should fix problems where users had more than one special folder in their L4 installation. In previous versions of Bibl2, there was logic which read the directory and used some logic to determine which special folder was in use, recently after i reinstalled L4, i found that the logic was insufficient. So i've gone to this new method which should be more reliable.

Website for Bibl2: http://www.bibl2.clark-tx.net/

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Scott S. | Forum Activity | Replied: Fri, Jul 20 2012 10:15 PM

This is just exceptional... thank you for sharing your hard work and expertise.

I am having a problem when importing my docx into my L4 PB: the hyperlinks aren't working. They work fine in the word document but every link only opens one of two books in L4. Furthermore, CTRL+CLICK of book image does nothing.

Any advice?

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Scott S. | Forum Activity | Replied: Fri, Jul 20 2012 10:39 PM

LimJK:

steve clark:

3. This is doable. But i don't have 1000 books to test it with. i am concerned about: memory issues, how Word will handle this volume, some user's machines that are slow may seem to take forever, etc. This is why i capped the list at 300. It seemed silly to just copy all the books without the user selecting a method for easily locating relevant books; otherwise why not just use the Library?

Steve, thanks for your reply and considerations ...

(3) I found the limit of 300 by accident ... as I was working on a subgroup of commentaries with 340 Resources and I have just under 8000 resources. Therefore, the reason I am suggesting a 1000 limit. I Understand the memory issue for slower machines ... maybe if you can consider just to increase the limit by a little :-)

Thanks once again

I ran into the same problem... when I got to the "Monograph" I have 518, and it seems that I can't even split it into two 300 sized chunks -- it seems to allow me only to select 24 at a time. Is there any sort of practical work around for this?

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steve clark | Forum Activity | Replied: Sat, Jul 21 2012 9:23 AM

Hi Lusayalumino, welcome to the Forum!

Lusayalumino:
I ran into the same problem... when I got to the "Monograph" I have 518, and it seems that I can't even split it into two 300 sized chunks -- it seems to allow me only to select 24 at a time. Is there any sort of practical work around for this?

If you select 24 at a time (books showing in each screen) they will be added to the list. When you get to 288 (24 times 12 screens) or less, then you could use the Build button to add these to a Word docx. Then you could repeat this where you left off and add it to another Word docx. Then copy or cut from one of the Word docx files and paste into the other below where its table of images is located. (A very useful thing to learn is how to copy a table of images in Word and paste them into another Word docx.)

In case you haven't figured out how to add sequential groups of book to the list, see below:

1. First make sure that your list is empty.
  a. Position the book list where you want to start using the vertical scrollbar. Also make sure that the upper left book is selected (yellow border).

2. Now hold the Shift key down on your keyboard and with your mouse click on the book cover in the lower right corner of the screen.
  a. Notice that the book cover now has a yellow border and that your list count has had 24 items added to it. (this is all the books shown on the current screen).
Note: selecting books from the top left to the bottom right adds them to the list in the order that they are shown. The program follows your lead when selecting books and places them in the order you selected them. (e.g. if you had select the lower right cover first and then selected the upper left cover, the program would have added the books in reverse order to your list). Thus why in steps 1a & 2 are having you select the upper left first and the lower right second.

 

3. Now make sure that you have released the Shift key. Move your mouse over a hollow area of the vertical scrollbar (above the scrollbar's lower arrow) below the slider. On your keyboard hold the Ctrl key down and with your mouse click in the hollow area of the scrollbar. This will instruct the program to show the next 24 book covers and select the upper left book.
  a. Notice that on the next screen that the upper left book is indeed selected

4. Now we are going to repeat step 2, on your keyboard hold the Shift key down and click on the lower right book cover.
  a. Notice that your list count has been incremented by 24 books. It is important to keep track of your list count. 

5. Now repeat steps 2 & 3 until you see the list count get to 288 (this should be a dozen screens of covers).
  a. We don't want it to get too close to 300 (as you know the program caps the count to 300 for reason mentioned earlier in this forum thread), So when you see that adding 24 more books would cross over the 300 value, then stop here so we know where we are and the capping hasn't lost our position on which books are in the list relative to the screen position.

6. Now hold the Ctrl key down and click in the hollow area of the scrollbar (as you've been doing in step 3)
  a.  Here we want to make a note (possible on a sheet of paper) where we will start with our next list, just in case the book cover position on the screen changes.
  b. Now you would click the Build button and send your list of covers to a Word docx file (you already know how to do this, if not click on the Help button and in the PDF document find The Build Window topic on pg 12). This will create the first 288 books into a Word docx file.

 

7. Once you've added the first 288 books to a Word docx, now we want to get the next group of books into our list. So click on the Clear button to erase the list. Make sure the book in step 6a is in the upper left corner and it is selected.
  a. Now repeat steps 2 & 3 to add the next 288 books to your list. Then follow step 6 to have the program create another Word docx with the book covers in it.

As mentioned at the top of this post you will need to Copy & Paste your table of book covers from other docx windows into the one that you are using for your personal book. This is covered in the help PDF in the section Steps that I use to build a PB using this tool.

 

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steve clark | Forum Activity | Replied: Sat, Jul 21 2012 11:23 AM

Hi again Lusayalumino,

This problem took me a while to figure out. Logos4 is having problems recognizing something in the Word docx format when you save the docx that Bibl2 created.

To get around Logos4's problem, i found that copying and pasting from the docx that Bibl2 created into an existing/working PB docx works. Then Logos4 recognizes the links. Also further pasting from other Bibl2 docx files into this same working PB docx continues to work fine. Below are steps to get this to work.

 

Logos4's problem

When saving the Word docx that Bibl2 created to a new filename (Test3) and then having Personal Book (PB) tool create the book, when we hold the mouse over a link in the PB we see that Logos4 did not recognize the link (no pop-up description of the book).

 

Steps to create a new docx, then import via Copy/Paste into this new docx

First open Word and create a new document and save it with a filename. (i even went so far as to have Logos4 build this blank PB).

 

  • Next i used Bibl2 to create a new docx via the Build command
  • Then in the Word docx, i pressed Ctrl  A to have Word select everything in the docx.
  • Then i Right Clicked on the selected items and in the pop-up menu clicked on Copy to add it to the clipboard

 

  • Then i went to the other Word docx that i created earlier
  • and right clicked in it and in the pop-up menu clicked on Paste
  • Then i Saved the changes in this Word docx.

 

 

  • Then i went into Logos4 and used Build to create the PB
  • Notice now the links are working (when hovering over the link Logos4 shows a pop-up for the book)
  • So adding more Bibl2 tables to our existing PB will continue to work. This is not as complicated as it might seem.
    Just use a working docx for your PB and copy/paste from the Bibl2 docx's into it.

 

Sorry for the inconvenience, i have no control over how Logos4 handles Word docx files. Obviously Word doesn't have a problem with the docx files generated by the Bibl2 program. But Logos4 is having difficulty in reading them properly.

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Also i have found that Logos4 doesn't handle Tables from a docx without warnings. Logos4 shows warning after building the docx. These warnings can be resolved if you:

 

  • right click on the Table in Word and select Table Properties

 

  • And then in the Table tab, click on Preferred width and set it to a value (i generally us 7.5 inches).
  • For some reason Logos4 PB tool doesn't know how to scale the table (although Word always remembers)
  • Then click OK
  • Then save your Word docx and go to Logos4 and Build the PB.

 

 

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