5.0b (5.0.2.0562) available for download

Brisa Davis
Brisa Davis Member Posts: 891
edited November 20 in English Forum

 

5.0b (5.0.2.0562) is available for download.

If you have automatic updates turned on, 5.0b will be downloaded automatically the next time your system checks for updates. To install it right away, enter the Update Now command. If you encounter problems with the auto update, download 5.0b using the appropriate link:

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Release Notes

This release includes:

  • Ability to use numbers for highlighting keyboard shortcuts.
  • "Show Home Page at Startup" setting moved from Home Page to Program Settings panel.
  • Updated Layouts panel interface.
  • Implementation of prayer schedule synchronization on shared Prayer Lists.
  • Implementation of Mobile Download Management.
  • Implementation of sync for History panel. 

 

 

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  • Sacrifice
    Sacrifice Member Posts: 391

    Bible Sense Lexicon "appears" fixed now. [:P]

    Yours In Christ

  • Dave Hooton
    Dave Hooton MVP Posts: 35,767

    Buried in the Bug Fixes please note this important change:-

    Collections

    • Fixed bug which caused existing collections utilizing ratings to employ both personal and community ratings. Note:
      To set up a Collection for personal ratings use ‘myrating:x’. Existing
      collections using ratings have been migrated to use this tag.

    You need to use myrating: in Library in place of rating:

    Also, if you have installations with 5.0a and 5.0b, there will be a conflict with use of rating: and myrating: in your collections, so you need to update to 5.0b ASAP.


    Dave
    ===

    Windows 11 & Android 13

  • Dave Hooton
    Dave Hooton MVP Posts: 35,767

    Release Notes also don't mention that Clause Search now uses SBLGNT (Greek New Testament SBL edition) instead of LGNTI:SBL.

    Dave
    ===

    Windows 11 & Android 13

  • Mark Smith
    Mark Smith MVP Posts: 11,798

    Existing
    collections using ratings have been migrated to use this tag.

    Not at least in one instance. Here is what I had: (type:commentary AND rating:>=4) OR (Series:Preacher's AND rating:>=3) That now produces for me 292 resources.

    (type:commentary AND myrating:>=4) OR (Series:Preacher's AND myrating:>=3) is my manual correction to get what I originally had before 5.0b. It yields 275 resources. The difference is the community rated resources meeting the rating requirement that are not handled by this 'migration'.

     

    Pastor, North Park Baptist Church

    Bridgeport, CT USA

  • Dave Hooton
    Dave Hooton MVP Posts: 35,767

    The difference is the community rated resources meeting the rating requirement that are not handled by this 'migration'.

    Oh my!

    Dave
    ===

    Windows 11 & Android 13

  • Mark Smith
    Mark Smith MVP Posts: 11,798

    Oh my!

    If it is working it may be only in instances where 'rating' appears in a simple expression and not in nested and/or Boolean statements like mine.

    I am too lazy right now to go through all my collections to find the few others that are based on ratings. I knew of this one from beta testing. It didn't migrate too well.

    Edit: it did work for a couple of simpler collection rules I easily found:

    type:monograph myrating:>=0 -Perseus

    myrating:>=0 -Perseus

    In these cases 'rating' was changed correctly to 'myrating'. Looks like complex expressions will be the ones to give trouble.

    Pastor, North Park Baptist Church

    Bridgeport, CT USA

  • Dave Hooton
    Dave Hooton MVP Posts: 35,767

    If it is working it may be only in instances where 'rating' appears in a simple expression and not in nested and/or Boolean statements like mine.

    I had a similar expression {if (x AND rating) OR (y AND rating)} and it was handled correctly during the beta.

    Dave
    ===

    Windows 11 & Android 13

  • Mark Smith
    Mark Smith MVP Posts: 11,798

    I had a similar expression {if (x AND rating) OR (y AND rating)} and it was handled correctly during the beta.

    I had to manually change that expression in the beta. So I am 0 for 2 (or 2 for 2, depending on how you look at it).

    Pastor, North Park Baptist Church

    Bridgeport, CT USA

  • Bill Cook
    Bill Cook Member Posts: 494

    How do you get mobile download management to work?

    I see no verbiage on the resource panel...

    OK. I re-started Logos and the mobile management options now show up.

  • DMB
    DMB Member Posts: 13,624 ✭✭✭

    Well, to be honest I thought my '5 ways to crash Logos' was a goner.

    But yes, let the new count begin!

     I already crashed it just turning off the community settings. 30 seconds flat.

     Just keeping a nice chipper attitude about Logos reliability.

    "If myth is ideology in narrative form, then scholarship is myth with footnotes." B. Lincolm 1999.

  • So we have new crashing DMB. If not stable, I'm scared to update.

    Thoughts?

     

  • Mark Smith
    Mark Smith MVP Posts: 11,798

    Thoughts?

    I am not having problems with crashes. None in beta testing of this release either.

    If anyone gets a crash, posting logs is the only way to troubleshoot the problem and help Logos build a better product.

    http://wiki.logos.com/Diagnostic_Logging

    Pastor, North Park Baptist Church

    Bridgeport, CT USA

  • DMB
    DMB Member Posts: 13,624 ✭✭✭

    Chuck, I wouldn't worry about it. It crashed on L5-Windows community tags. In any event I re-started and looked to see what it was. Maybe a fender-scratch and no need to call the insurance company.  Marked the bumper with #1.

    Have a nice Holy Lent (saw your thread).

    EDIT: I did test out the 'sense' in NRSV and it works. Then when I checked 'camp' in Deu, the density graph doesn't appear correct (word use relative to book length?). In any event Num shows but not Lev. So probably need to mouse it unlike BWS density graphs.

    "If myth is ideology in narrative form, then scholarship is myth with footnotes." B. Lincolm 1999.

  • Thanks Guys.

    Going to update now.

    Blessings all!

  • Dave Hooton
    Dave Hooton MVP Posts: 35,767

    DMB said:

    It crashed on L5-Windows community tags.

    That was supposed to have been fixed in the beta! Did the setting remain as you changed it  i.e. NO?

    Dave
    ===

    Windows 11 & Android 13

  • DMB
    DMB Member Posts: 13,624 ✭✭✭

    I accepts the setting (ie when I re-start, it's as desired). The only issue is it crashes.

    I have calls to Japan tonight; will log it tomorrow. Appreciate the reply.

    "If myth is ideology in narrative form, then scholarship is myth with footnotes." B. Lincolm 1999.

  • Orpheus Heyward
    Orpheus Heyward Member Posts: 180 ✭✭

    Logos...excellent job with these updates.  I love the fact that the layout name is now visible when the particular layout is open.

     

  • Rosie Perera
    Rosie Perera Member Posts: 26,202 ✭✭✭✭✭

    DMB said:

    Well, to be honest I thought my '5 ways to crash Logos' was a goner.

    But yes, let the new count begin!

     I already crashed it just turning off the community settings. 30 seconds flat.

     Just keeping a nice chipper attitude about Logos reliability.

    DMB, you have a knack for breaking things. You should apply for a job in Logos's testing department. They need people like you who can break it in-house before it gets released to the world.

  • Bradley Grainger (Logos)
    Bradley Grainger (Logos) Administrator, Logos Employee Posts: 11,969

    You should apply for a job in Logos's testing department. They need people like you who can break it in-house before it gets released to the world.

    That reminds me... we have two testing positions open right now: http://www.logos.com/jobs/SDEThttp://www.logos.com/jobs/software-tester. If you know anyone who's interested in a job like that, please encourage them to apply.

  • Bradley Grainger (Logos)
    Bradley Grainger (Logos) Administrator, Logos Employee Posts: 11,969

    DMB said:

    I already crashed it just turning off the community settings. 30 seconds flat.

    Logs?

  • Went into program settings and told it to turn off community tags. The tags still appear. Waited about 30 seconds. Does the program need to restart? If so, this information needs to be put in the popup coming from the question mark in settings.

    The tags pane was already showing at the time.

    Mission: To serve God as He desires.

  • Dave Hooton
    Dave Hooton MVP Posts: 35,767

    Went into program settings and told it to turn off community tags. The tags still appear. Waited about 30 seconds. Does the program need to restart? If so, this information needs to be put in the popup coming from the question mark in settings.

    The tags pane was already showing at the time.

    Again, this all happened in beta together with a similar request to document it. I'm very disappointed that Logos don't hear or communicate. At least you didn't crash.

    Dave
    ===

    Windows 11 & Android 13

  • Donnie Hale
    Donnie Hale Member Posts: 2,036

    DMB, you have a knack for breaking things. You should apply for a job in Logos's testing department. They need people like you who can break it in-house before it gets released to the world.

    They have to let him use his own system to maximize his effectiveness. ;)

    Donnie

     

  • JT (alabama24)
    JT (alabama24) MVP Posts: 36,512

    They have to let him

    You mean they need to let HER. [;)]

    macOS, iOS & iPadOS |Logs| Install
    truth over tribe

  • Bradley Grainger (Logos)
    Bradley Grainger (Logos) Administrator, Logos Employee Posts: 11,969

    Went into program settings and told it to turn off community tags. The tags still appear. Waited about 30 seconds. Does the program need to restart? If so, this information needs to be put in the popup coming from the question mark in settings.

    The tags pane was already showing at the time.

    I'm not able to reproduce this. If you can reproduce it easily, a screencast may be helpful.

    What is the "tags pane"?

  • DMB
    DMB Member Posts: 13,624 ✭✭✭

    Here's the log files this morning. I notice it usually takes about 10 seconds for it to 'respond to crash' (meaning it's fully operable in those 10 seconds, before the software is de-contrasted).  Also if it'd help diagnosis, this morning's crash was with a clean layout. Last night it was with a library embedded in the top window of a 5 window layout. In the latter, you could see it resetting the library, with the crash after that.

    EDIT: (removed discussion on control-click on taskbar Logos that didn't work; too flaky to reliably repeat). But I did notice (and please don't fix) that the little trick of putting a dummy argument in the Logos icon to generate a blank layout does just that (and ignores the Logos setting, which IS GOOD). However it then shows the most recent layout name in the title (which is NOT the desired Settings option), and also shows it loaded in 'Layouts' (which of course it is not). Kind of gives a clue on the programming sequence.  But anyone using this little 'trick' needs to be careful, since like the panel coordination in another still-remaining Logos4 bug, the Logos5 software doesn't actually check to see what was loaded.

    7484.Logos.zip.

     

    "If myth is ideology in narrative form, then scholarship is myth with footnotes." B. Lincolm 1999.

  • JC54
    JC54 Member Posts: 311 ✭✭

    Can someone explain how this function works:Implemented

    Mobile Download Management. Manage download to mobile devices on resource information panel in My Library or in resource information pane in Resource Panel. Unregister devices on your Logos.com account page.

    Because logos does not seem to recognize my andriod ereader. Is it only working at the moment the device is also connected to the internet? 

  • Todd Phillips
    Todd Phillips Member Posts: 6,735 ✭✭✭

    Can someone explain how this function works:Implemented

    Mobile Download Management. Manage download to mobile devices on resource information panel in My Library or in resource information pane in Resource Panel. Unregister devices on your Logos.com account page.

    Because logos does not seem to recognize my andriod ereader. Is it only working at the moment the device is also connected to the internet? 

    Do you have the Logos app installed on your Android device and entered your account info into it?

    MacBook Pro (2019), ThinkPad E540

  • JC54
    JC54 Member Posts: 311 ✭✭

    Do you have the Logos app installed on your Android device and entered your account info into it?

     

    Yes I have, I have been using the app for over a year.

  • DMB
    DMB Member Posts: 13,624 ✭✭✭

    Goodness, the new Layout changes (Layout panel) vs the startup is positively dangerous. I'm not trying to be critical or snobby; it just needs some review of the program flow.

    The identification of the layout (title/layout panel) needs to make sure the layout was actually loaded.

    Right now, a saved icon from the Users/<account>/AppData/Local/Logos4 (meaning a clean icon) will load up my Logos5, no layout showing, but the title shows a layout name (my big one) and opening the Layout panel shows the big layout in use (even though it's a blank layout being used).  In my settings, the open layout is set to 'Home' even though it thinks it has loaded my big-boy layout.  And the opening doesn't open to 'Home' anyway; not sure about 'that' bug.

    Bottom line is to be very careful updating the layouts. In my case it's pretty obvious: a blank layout vs a 5-window layout. But other people might have layouts with very minor differences.

    I know it's against Logos policy, but I really wish users could 'save to disk' since at the moment I've no confidence concerning the viability of  my large 90 resource layout. I suspect it's going to bite the dust soon enough.

     

    "If myth is ideology in narrative form, then scholarship is myth with footnotes." B. Lincolm 1999.