Logos 7 - What should it offer?

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Don Awalt | Forum Activity | Replied: Sun, Dec 7 2014 5:50 AM

Lee:
My subtle point also being that fuzzy search may be relying on some secret sauce which is not on the menu.

Libronix/Logos 3 had very limited internet/server support or its functionality, it's highly doubtful that there was any functionality for fuzzy search that was not on the user's computer. I am sure some who still have Libronix 3 installed can confirm that fuzzy search works when it's offline.

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Nathan Parker | Forum Activity | Replied: Mon, Dec 8 2014 8:11 PM

Oh boy this one I'd have to think about...

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Claude Brown Jr | Forum Activity | Replied: Tue, Dec 9 2014 3:00 PM

How does that work if you stop paying and set the software to never check the internet don't you still have the library for use?

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Rosie Perera | Forum Activity | Replied: Tue, Dec 9 2014 3:22 PM

Don Awalt:

Don, here's a little unsolicited tip (ignore it if you don't appreciate unsolicited tips Smile): You were lucky that time that your search strategy didn't interfere with getting good results, but generally it's better in Google searches to leave off question words at the beginning such as "who said to god" because the pages that mention this quote are not likely to discuss it in the form of a question, and it might just be coincidental that the word "who" also happened to be on the pages that you found using that search.

Lots of people approach Google as if it were an Oracle: ask it a question and get the answer. But it's better to search for the key words in your query. Google is pretty smart and might know enough to weed out question words when it does a search, but there's no point typing them in anyway because it's just more keystrokes. So instead of typing questions into Google like who is the president of Ukraine, just type president Ukraine and you'll get the same answer but with less typing.

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Rosie Perera | Forum Activity | Replied: Tue, Dec 9 2014 10:31 PM

Allow two or more copies of the Collections tab to be open at a time.

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Unix | Forum Activity | Replied: Wed, Dec 10 2014 12:23 AM

Yes Hoping that it will get implemented in a revision of L6:

Rosie Perera:
Allow two or more copies of the Collections tab to be open at a time.

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Sean McIntyre | Forum Activity | Replied: Wed, Dec 10 2014 3:51 AM

Bob Pritchett:

Wait -- I already know the answer! "Fix annoying-thing in Logos 6 first!" :-)

Not funny. I joined Logos at v4 and upgraded to 5 and 6 immediately they were released. After my experience of upgrading to L6 (blame it on Apple etc), I will not be upgrading to L7 for at leat 6 months to a year after its release. 

I will submit my ideas to user voice.

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JoshInRI | Forum Activity | Replied: Wed, Dec 10 2014 5:33 AM

I would like to request more user friendly services for people in a group Bible study section including one finger Windows (and Android) Tablet touch with larger buttons on all platforms to get to Book, Chapter, and verse.

Please also speed it up....I had such lag yesterday....while leading a group it was very embarrassing.  (You know everyone is thinking - "Why doesn't he just open an actual Bible?")

Think of things users who do not read in Greek or Hebrew need please next time.

Finally, please make the front screen with an ad-free ability and pull from devotional material and books like it used to in previous version please.  I know I can make a layout but I should not have to.

More items like Not Your Average Bible Study and Abraham bible studies please.  Sell them as a cheap addon to your next iteration please.  I am desperate for one-off Bible studies please....good ones not geared exclusively for brand new unbelievers but also not forgetting them.  Serendipty Bible like materials would be nice!

Since you like to sell packages and addons lately - why not a very inexpensive mix of useful commentaries - call it Baptist Bible/Commentary or something.  I predict it would sell like hotcakes.  I haven't checked how its geared or authored yet but the OPENING UP series I used for Luke last night in Bible study was really a blessing. 

I continue to feel that Logos is not gearing things for us...well...lowbrow still-getting-educated types.  You would all clean up with a set of background commentaries and real simple expositional commentaries.  Partner inexpensively with those writing them please.  Better yet saddle up to Zondervan and please get the Ilustrated Background Commentary reduced in cost so more people can buy and use it please.

Sermon starter needs work too....most of us do NOT want/need to do topical sermons and this feature seems to assume we do.  Please imagine a first time seminarian getting up in the pulpit when you redesign this feature please.

Blessings and Merry Christmas,

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JoshInRI | Forum Activity | Replied: Wed, Dec 10 2014 5:49 AM

John and Rosie are awesome...please listen and work with them!

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GregW | Forum Activity | Replied: Wed, Dec 10 2014 6:55 AM

JoshInRI:
Finally, please make the front screen with an ad-free ability and pull from devotional material and books like it used to in previous version please.  I know I can make a layout but I should not have to.

You can actually get rid of most of the adverts on the Home Page by clicking on the wheel on the top right corner of the Home Page (next to the update information). Most adverts tell you where they come from (things like My Logos Messages) and you can uncheck these. These were a feature of the L5 Home Page as well. You can also check here to get devotionals displayed on the Home Page and "From Your Library" extracts so I think all the things you are asking for on the Home Page are actually already available in L6 simply by tweaking the settings. It is possible more of them are "on" by default on theL6 Home Page but I am certainly not seeing any more advertising on L6 than I did on L5.

Also, the sort of commentary series you are asking for are already available - as well as the "Opening up ..." series, the Bible Speaks Today and the Tyndale commentaries would be good examples, as would Tom Wright and John Goldingay's "For Everyone" commentaries (in fact, I am not sure I'd necessarily regard them as commentaries). Maybe they should be incorporated into Base Packages or bundles (in fact I think BST is in one of the Anglican BPs). BST comes up on sales at various times at very good prices. The two IVP background commentaries also fill the gap you are talking about - the New Testament one is currently on sale at over 30% off.  In fact the IVP Essential Reference Collection is something I used before I had any theological education, but still find useful now.  


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JoshInRI | Forum Activity | Replied: Wed, Dec 10 2014 7:01 AM

Thanks Greg.  My entire homepage is a deluge of ads by default.  I will begin adjusting.

Merry Christmas Sir - Jesus Reigns!

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Charlene | Forum Activity | Replied: Wed, Dec 10 2014 7:18 AM

Rosie Perera:

Allow two or more copies of the Collections tab to be open at a time.

Amen and Amen! Big Smile

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Keep Smiling 4 Jesus :) | Forum Activity | Replied: Wed, Dec 10 2014 7:58 AM

Charlene:

Rosie Perera:

Allow two or more copies of the Collections tab to be open at a time.

Amen and Amen! Big Smile

Thankful can use two applications today to have Library and Collections open in each application, which is helpful when working on collection rules and tagging.  More Collection and Library tabs open at the same time in one application would be appreciated. 

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Rich DeRuiter | Forum Activity | Replied: Thu, Dec 11 2014 1:24 PM

Bob Pritchett:
And after you've helped us prioritize the Logos 6.x path, post your crazy / wild / big idea for Logos 7 here. Should we have a new data set?

I would love to see a data set tied to hymns and other such resources Logos already provides that would integrate into one of the guides (probably the Sermon Starter guide).

Bob Pritchett:
A completely new feature area?

I'd love to see a worship elements feature that would aid in worship planning. Although we don't use Proclaim, I'd expect this to be tightly integrated with it, but be located in the Logos environment and take advantage of Logos resources.

Bob Pritchett:
More teaching material? A cuneiform word processor? Scanned images of original manuscripts? Manual categorization of theologians?

The answer to all of those questions from me is "No."

Bob Pritchett:
Bible words tagged by emotive impact?

Could be interesting, depending on how "emotive impact" is defined and tagged. I suppose this would have to be done with respect to original language texts, and original cultural setting, rather than translations, since too often the emotive impact is lost in translation, or added by the translation. I would hope that many of the parables of Jesus would include "humor" as the emotive impact. But this gets complicated very quickly by both linguistic and cultural differences. It would almost become a kind of Bible background commentary, or rely heavily upon them.

In addition to what you brought up:

I'd love to see what you did with Psalms and Proverbs extended to Isaiah (for starters), and other poetic Biblical literature.

I would love to see the Topical stuff in all the guides be able to handle synonyms, and group by synonymous meaning. IMHO, I find the topical stuff to be the least helpful of all the stuff in the guides.

I would love to see Logos develop a base package or robust collection of material on Christian social justice, as well as something that targets some of the other remaining, as yet under-served streams of Christianity (Mennonites, e.g.).

I would love to see Logos develop a library management system that would allow us to manage our libraries in ways that parallel academic libraries (i.e., Library of Congress catalog system, Dewey Decimal, etc.). This would mean tagging all resources with these cataloging features, or developing an easy way for users to do so (based on downloadable, or cloud-based catalogs?).

[I did not read every post on this thread before posting this. So, if there is overlap, or a better way of stating some of these things, I defer.]

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Lynden Williams | Forum Activity | Replied: Thu, Dec 11 2014 1:57 PM

Back up my index periodically, so that when/if it crashes I can go back to the old one and only have to build (maybe) a supplemental index.

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Adam Olean | Forum Activity | Replied: Thu, Dec 11 2014 3:18 PM

Rich DeRuiter:

I'd love to see what you did with Psalms and Proverbs extended to Isaiah (for starters), and other poetic Biblical literature.

Good suggestion! I was thinking about this as well. Perhaps something like a "Biblical Poetry Explorer." There are substantial sections of poetry embedded even in the Torah and the Former Prophets / historical books (e.g., Gen 49; Exod 15; Num 23, 24; Deut 32, 33; Judges 5; 1 Sam 2; 2 Sam 1, 22, 23). There are many short poetical passages as well (e.g., Gen 2:23; 4:23–24; 9:25–27; Gen 27:27–29).

On a related note, although in some cases it may be too much to ask, it would be great to have some of these data sets and "interactive media" tools integrated together better so that they could be easily viewed, used, or accessed (by toggling between them or any other means) from the same biblical text (e.g., discourse databases, propositional outlines, psalms/proverbs explorers, along w/ other tagging, etc.). I don't necessarily mean displaying all that data at one time because obviously many data sets and tools may be focused on different aspects, features, or levels of the text, which may make such integration impractical and undesirable. I do hope, however, that the content team continues to keep integration in mind with respect to content, tools, and the user-interface—just as they have done so well with many data sets and features already. That said, if better integration meant not having, for example, the Psalms Explorer, I would sacrifice better integration (e.g., displaying morphology, sense data, etc.).

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Kendall Sholtess | Forum Activity | Replied: Thu, Dec 11 2014 10:00 PM

  I am not very smart in doing analytical work. I hope that you can continue to improve the abilities of the software to "read our minds."

 

   Logos is a high-powered piece of software. And I am not a total idiot, usually. But I am still only using a fraction of the capabilities of the program.

I think Logos should pay someone "like" Morris Proctor to do Morris-Proctor level videos for free. We've already invested so much in the program.

I realize that Faithlife does make videos to post on youtube. But I am asking for more, for better.

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Lynden Williams | Forum Activity | Replied: Fri, Dec 12 2014 1:54 AM

Over the years I have accumulated a lot of notes. How about a preview of a note when hovering the mouse over it?

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Graham Criddle | Forum Activity | Replied: Fri, Dec 12 2014 2:10 AM

Lynden Williams:

Over the years I have accumulated a lot of notes. How about a preview of a note when hovering the mouse over it?

That works already - what are you seeing?

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Lynden Williams | Forum Activity | Replied: Fri, Dec 12 2014 2:24 AM

Graham Criddle:

Lynden Williams:

Over the years I have accumulated a lot of notes. How about a preview of a note when hovering the mouse over it?

That works already - what are you seeing?

Hovering my mouse over any of them does not give a preview.

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