GK101 Introduction to Biblical Greek John D. Schwandt

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Michael McLane | Forum Activity | Posted: Sat, May 27 2017 1:38 PM

Any idea when this "might" hit pre-pub?

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Michael McLane | Forum Activity | Replied: Tue, May 30 2017 3:41 PM

I did this early in the week but hoping someone at FL might give some guidance. I was looking at the Zondervan videos but would wait for this.

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John Schwandt | Forum Activity | Replied: Tue, May 30 2017 4:00 PM

Look for the pre-pub sometime this summer.  I’m very excited to see this course debut.  We are spending some extra time prior to the pre-pub in order to align a number of additional advantages for choosing this biblical Greek course and curriculum.  It will be worth the wait.  I don't think it will sit very long on pre-pub.  (Thanks for your patience and enthusiasm about it.)

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Michael McLane | Forum Activity | Replied: Tue, May 30 2017 5:33 PM

Thanks John, I will look forward to it.

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Andrew Perez | Forum Activity | Replied: Wed, Jun 7 2017 3:07 PM

Sound great, thanks for all of your hard work.

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Mark | Forum Activity | Replied: Wed, Jun 7 2017 7:37 PM

John Schwandt:
Look for the pre-pub sometime this summer.

Is it possible to tell us what resources would be useful to have along with this course that is soon to come out?

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Keith Pang | Forum Activity | Replied: Wed, Jun 7 2017 9:15 PM

Is this supposed to be equivalent to one year of Greek?

Shalom, in Christ, Keith. Check out my music www.soundcloud.com/kpang808

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John Schwandt | Forum Activity | Replied: Thu, Jun 8 2017 10:21 AM

Yes.  It will have all of the content that is common to a traditional first year Greek curriculum in seminary.

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John Schwandt | Forum Activity | Replied: Thu, Jun 8 2017 10:28 AM

Mark:

Is it possible to tell us what resources would be useful to have along with this course that is soon to come out?

It will be bundled with a textbook which will be announced this summer.  We don't have a list of the additional references yet since developing those links is part of the production process.  The additional recourses will not be required to complete the course but will provide excellent pathways to books within your existing library and solid recommendations for building your library in that direction. 

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J David Shuttleworth | Forum Activity | Replied: Thu, Jun 8 2017 10:38 AM

Good Afternoon,

Where can I lean more about this course?

Thank you, and God Bless!!

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Keith Larson | Forum Activity | Replied: Thu, Jun 8 2017 10:57 AM

John,

Will this be an immersion method like your old Athenaze course? I really enjoyed taking it and found it superior to any other Greek course I had taken.

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John Schwandt | Forum Activity | Replied: Thu, Jun 8 2017 12:54 PM

Hi all,

It is a little too early to get into specific details for this course.  All of the details will be presented once all we have all of the “production ducks” in a row.  I’m expecting this to happen in late summer.  It will be an in depth traditional style Greek course, but leverage every advantage the Logos platform can offer.

I’m a big fan of older grammars that included plenty of composition exercises (like Machen and Nunn).   To Keith’s question – it will not be an immersion course that focusses on conversational skills.  It will be a grammar/translation driven course that provides plenty of helps and exercises to help three types of learners:

 1)    Those who just want to learn Greek grammar. (One can just work through grammar segments.)

2)    Those who just want to learn grammar and learn how to translate. (One can just work through grammar segments, vocabularies, and translation exercises.)

3)    Those who want to develop an initiative understanding of grammar and reading skills.  (One can work through everything including composition exercises to gain an ability to consider linguistic and literary alternatives authors had, which could inform choices they did make.)  This is the old-school approach that I love.  It is one step shy of teaching complete fluency.  However, it can be used as a stepping stone in that direction.  A dedicated fluency course typically isn’t helpful for those with #1 and #2 learning objectives.   To be sure, I haven’t lost my passion for fluency but this course was designed for a larger audience to help the maximum number of people grow in their understanding and interest in biblical Greek.  I hope it will prove to be a huge stepping stone for future fluency efforts (from me or anyone else.) 

I hope that I haven’t raised more questions than I answered.  Wink

Thanks for the encouragement, Keith!

It won’t be long until we have full pre-pub documentation.  Because we want to maximally leverage the Logos platform and it has so much to offer in the area of biblical languages, there is more involved in this project than the typical pre-pub.   I’ll have to ask everyone for patience.  I can say that it will be worth the wait.  Smile

 

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Keith Pang | Forum Activity | Replied: Thu, Jun 8 2017 2:07 PM

Very cool! I'm excited to see it come out! 

Shalom, in Christ, Keith. Check out my music www.soundcloud.com/kpang808

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Disciple of Christ (doc) | Forum Activity | Replied: Thu, Jun 8 2017 5:10 PM

Thanks John for the update, I look toward to the final product.

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Mark | Forum Activity | Replied: Mon, Jul 31 2017 7:07 PM

Hi John

As August 1 comes around, I am wondering if there is an update on this product?  I certainly would like to have it available to use by September 1

Mark

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John Schwandt | Forum Activity | Replied: Tue, Aug 1 2017 10:23 AM

There are going to be a number of parts to this program (textbook, Mobile Ed course with exercises and vocabulary, flashcards and an amazing alphabet course that is highly interactive to lay a solid foundation for learning the language.)  The Interactive Greek Alphabet Course will ship first.  Watch for it sometime this month.  All of the parts will be available for "pre-order" (with a substantial discount) through a pay up front SKU.  Those who purchase in this way will get the parts as they are released.  I'm pushing to see all of the parts shipped by the end of the year.  I'm sorry that all of the parts are not shipping for use this month.  We are working as fast as we can. :)  I'm very happy to see that first Greek Alphabet course will ship this month. I hope this helps with your planning.  I'm thrilled that you are dedicating time and energy to learning Greek and will be excited to hear how it blesses your studies in the New Testament.

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Mark | Forum Activity | Replied: Tue, Aug 1 2017 12:51 PM

Thank you John.  Two of my teenage sons are learning Greek for homeschooling and this is why I am hoping that parts will be released by September.  I would like enough of a course to be done that they can go through it

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Roger Dittmar | Forum Activity | Replied: Tue, Aug 15 2017 8:20 AM

John Schwandt:

There are going to be a number of parts to this program (textbook, Mobile Ed course with exercises and vocabulary, flashcards and an amazing alphabet course that is highly interactive to lay a solid foundation for learning the language.)  The Interactive Greek Alphabet Course will ship first.  Watch for it sometime this month.  All of the parts will be available for "pre-order" (with a substantial discount) through a pay up front SKU.  Those who purchase in this way will get the parts as they are released.  I'm pushing to see all of the parts shipped by the end of the year.  I'm sorry that all of the parts are not shipping for use this month.  We are working as fast as we can. :)  I'm very happy to see that first Greek Alphabet course will ship this month. I hope this helps with your planning.  I'm thrilled that you are dedicating time and energy to learning Greek and will be excited to hear how it blesses your studies in the New Testament.

It's here. https://www.logos.com/product/145022/biblical-greek-foundational-certificate-program 

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Mark | Forum Activity | Replied: Tue, Aug 15 2017 3:11 PM

Thanks for letting us know.  Now to figure out what is finished and what is not

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Mark | Forum Activity | Replied: Tue, Aug 15 2017 3:28 PM

Can FL give us an update on when the book as well as the actual GK 101 course is expected to be ready or what the tentative plan is for releasing the rest of the material?  So far, it appears that the GK091 and GK 092 which are the pronunciation part of the course is all that is ready. 

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