Barnes is on the Move
It is now past 60%. There seems to have been a sudden burst of enthusiasm. Come on Logos, time to put this one on the Blog.
Mission: To serve God as He desires.
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I agree - put it on the blog.
By the way, how long has it been on the community pricing page?
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According to the RSS feed it was posted February 9, 2005. Is this right?
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Since King hatchet was a hammer.
Mission: To serve God as He desires.
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Dave
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What's ironic is you know darn well that by the time it closes and goes to PrePub it will have closed at $25 Everyone should just bid the $30 and let's get on with it!
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I wish Logos would bump it to the top of the list on the web page and push it in their blog...with just a little love (ok, actually a lot...) this can head into production.
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The little dot is finally sitting on the 60% line. This is the biggest movement that I have seen in Barnes since I started watching it a very, very long time ago. If it goes for $30 (or less), this is incredible value for 10,000 pages. I would sure like to see this one get on the blog as well to see if it can be put into production.
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It looks as if the $25 and $20 spots are making their move as they approach 60%
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Watching the turtle race of Barnes on the forum is way too much fun. Why would we ever want to send it to production?
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Philip Spitzer said:
Watching the turtle race of Barnes on the forum is way too much fun. Why would we ever want to send it to production?
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Blessings,
FloydPastor-Patrick.blogspot.com
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Barnes has been an anchor to the Community Price page for some time now. If we remove it, the page might drift away.
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Donovan R. Palmer said:
Barnes has been an anchor to the Community Price page for some time now. If we remove it, the page might drift away.
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Blessings,
FloydPastor-Patrick.blogspot.com
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JimT said:Paul said:
According to the RSS feed it was posted February 9, 2005.
I wonder what portion of those Pre-Pub orders came in during early 2005, and those customers and credit-cards are inactive?
That does not matter, if they are still customers Logos will charge their current card when it ships.0 -
Logos will charge their credit card whether they are customers or not. Only if they cancel their order will the transaction be cancelled. On the other hand, they should receive an e-mail when it moves to Pre-Pub and shortly before they are billed. This will give them time to cancel the order.
Blessings,
FloydPastor-Patrick.blogspot.com
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Alan Charles Gielczyk said:JimT said:Paul said:
According to the RSS feed it was posted February 9, 2005.
I wonder what portion of those Pre-Pub orders came in during early 2005, and those customers and credit-cards are inactive?
That does not matter, if they are still customers Logos will charge their current card when it ships.
The card may be active, but the card expiration date on file has probably expired.
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Edwin Bowden said:Alan Charles Gielczyk said:JimT said:Paul said:
According to the RSS feed it was posted February 9, 2005.
I wonder what portion of those Pre-Pub orders came in during early 2005, and those customers and credit-cards are inactive?
That does not matter, if they are still customers Logos will charge their current card when it ships.
The card may be active, but the card expiration date on file has probably expired.
When a pre-pub is about to ship, Logos sends you an email with an opportunity to update your credit card info before they attempt to charge it. Presumably if the charge doesn't go through (card has expired or is no longer active) you would not get the pre-pub. So it's always important to ensure you keep your credit card info on file up-to-date and take those reminder opportunities to double check.
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Hey it's the weekend! Aren't we supoosed to push for Barnes on community pricing, so I'll have something to watch as I work. http://www.logos.com/communitypricing/details/2132
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I like Apples. Especially Honeycrisp.
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When it gets to 85% then it will start getting interesting, but till then........
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Lester Busald said:
When it gets to 85% then it will start getting interesting, but till then........
Lester, the odd thing is that I have read that Barnes has experienced by far the MOST participation of any pre-pub. It's not that people don't want it. It's that people are not bidding enough for Logos to cover costs. I just upped my bid the other day by $5. (not a lot, I know). Wonder what would happen if every bidder did that?
I like Apples. Especially Honeycrisp.
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Dan DeVilder said:Lester Busald said:
When it gets to 85% then it will start getting interesting, but till then........
Lester, the odd thing is that I have read that Barnes has experienced by far the MOST participation of any pre-pub. It's not that people don't want it. It's that people are not bidding enough for Logos to cover costs. I just upped my bid the other day by $5. (not a lot, I know). Wonder what would happen if every bidder did that?
Well, if everyone who has bid less than $30 would move their bid to $30, it would be over 90%. If everyone moved their bid to at least $35, it would be over 100%. FWIW, I'm in at $40.
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Ron Keyston Jr said:Dan DeVilder said:Lester Busald said:
When it gets to 85% then it will start getting interesting, but till then........
Lester, the odd thing is that I have read that Barnes has experienced by far the MOST participation of any pre-pub. It's not that people don't want it. It's that people are not bidding enough for Logos to cover costs. I just upped my bid the other day by $5. (not a lot, I know). Wonder what would happen if every bidder did that?
Well, if everyone who has bid less than $30 would move their bid to $30, it would be over 90%. If everyone moved their bid to at least $35, it would be over 100%. FWIW, I'm in at $40.
Where do you get your numbers? I'm not challenging you, I just don't see access to those kinds of figures on the page.
BTW, I think the reason it's not moving is because it costs way more than any other community pricing product to date. Bid what it's worth to you, not what you think you can get it for. Up
till now the bids people have put in have shown Logos it's not worth it
financially to publish this work, since most people aren't willing to pay anywhere near what it costs to publish.I've been in for a long time at $70.
Help links: WIKI; Logos 6 FAQ. (Phil. 2:14, NIV)
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I'm in at $90. I've used this for years at the libray and in the previous bible software I used. I really would like to get it tied in with logos instead of having to have two programs open.
I did a quick search and found that studylight. org has Barnes notes where they can be viewed online http://www.studylight.org/com/bnn/ . Maybe if you are trying to see if it is worth it this will help.
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Richard DeRuiter said:Ron Keyston Jr said:
Well, if everyone who has bid less than $30 would move their bid to $30, it would be over 90%. If everyone moved their bid to at least $35, it would be over 100%. FWIW, I'm in at $40.
Where do you get your numbers? I'm not challenging you, I just don't see access to those kinds of figures on the page.
BTW, I think the reason it's not moving is because it costs way more than any other community pricing product to date. Bid what it's worth to you, not what you think you can get it for. Up
till now the bids people have put in have shown Logos it's not worth it
financially to publish this work, since most people aren't willing to pay anywhere near what it costs to publish.I've been in for a long time at $70.
Hi Richard,
No problem. It is determined based on the current percentage for the $10 level. Since any bid counts as a bid for the price you are bidding as well as a bid for every price below your bid, then the lowest price point represents bids by everyone who has bid on the resource at any price. Knowing that, you can extrapolate what price the resource could go for based on the total number of bidders.
Using Barnes for the example, we can tell that the $10 price point is currently slightly over 30% of the way to covering production costs. Since a $30 bid covers 3x the costs of a $10 bid, that would mean that if everybody who has bid at least $10 changes their bid to at least $30, the $30 level would cover over 90% of the costs...or if everybody moved to $35 or higher, then the $35 level would be at 3.5 x 30%(+) or 105%.
Hope that helps! [:)]
I agree with your comments about it costing more than any other CP product to date. It is far larger than anything else that has been offered on CP and therefore the production costs are higher. With that said though, there are enough bidders in the current pool to cover production costs at $35 or come very close to covering them at $30. The "problem" is that a number of them are still sitting on bids between $10 and $25. I'm not saying that people should bid more than their current bid if they don't think it is worth more than that, I'm just pointing out that it can be accomplished with the current number of bidders...and at a good price.
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I have upped my bid twice now and am currently sitting at $60. I agree that if all the people who have bid $10 or $15 upped their bid to $30 or $40, we'd get over the top. And as well all know, once it gets over the top and there's a final deadline, there's a sudden rush of all the others who don't want to be left out, and then the price usually goes down some more. Logos says the estimated pre-pub price is $89.95, so even if it ends up going in CP for $40 it would be under half that. And I'm guessing we can get it for $30 or less.
So, low-ball bidders, up your bid!
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I've had my bid at $90.00 for quite a while just to speed things up.
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I,ve put mine up to $90 as well come on Barnes
Bro Garry
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