Re: Release Notes and Updated Resource Info on Home Page -Thanks

Larry Heflin
Larry Heflin Member Posts: 109 ✭✭
edited November 2024 in English Forum

Thank you to the people behind the product at Logos for these and the other goodies. The "Release Notes" and the "Updated Resources"  were just the first things I noticed. They are very much appreciated. I'll be poking around some more. Now get back to work.

Larry

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  • Craig Ostrander
    Craig Ostrander Member Posts: 49 ✭✭

    I sure can't find them on my homepage. Where are the release notes and resource updates located? I'm on a mac

  • Graham Criddle
    Graham Criddle MVP Posts: 33,289

    Hi Craig

    You need to enable them on the home page - the diagram below is from a Windows machine but hopefully there will be something similar on the Mac

    image

    The things to enable are "Release Notes" and "Updated Resources"

    Graham

  • Mark Barnes
    Mark Barnes Member Posts: 15,432 ✭✭✭

    Where are the release notes and resource updates located?

    They're also only available on the newest version of Logos (4.2a) which was released yesterday. You'll need to make sure you've updated to that version.

    This is my personal Faithlife account. On 1 March 2022, I started working for Faithlife, and have a new 'official' user account. Posts on this account shouldn't be taken as official Faithlife views!

  • Craig Ostrander
    Craig Ostrander Member Posts: 49 ✭✭

    Thanks Graham but I already have those enabled in preferences. Where are the release notes located on the home page? For the life of me I cannot find them.

     

    Craig

  • Craig Ostrander
    Craig Ostrander Member Posts: 49 ✭✭

    Hi Mark,

    I updated yesterday so am current. I just cannot find those features on the home page.

     

    Craig

  • Graham Criddle
    Graham Criddle MVP Posts: 33,289

    Hi Craig

    Thanks Graham but I already have those enabled in preferences. Where are the release notes located on the home page? For the life of me I cannot find them

    On my system they are on the second page among a range of other articles

    image

    Clicking on the "more" link opens a browser window containing the release notes.

    Graham

     

  • Craig Ostrander
    Craig Ostrander Member Posts: 49 ✭✭

    Hmm very strange. I don't have anything like that on mine. Perhaps that feature is Windows only and not Mac. I'd sure like to see what resources were updated. I can get the release notes from the wiki but would be nice to see them from the homepage.

  • fgh
    fgh Member Posts: 8,948 ✭✭✭

    Have you tried F5? I just did and that solved it for me. (And, yes, I'm on Mac.)

    Can someone explain to me why I have to hit F5 to see this, when I have already restarted Logos at least 3 times after downloading the upgrade? Why doesn't the restart update the Home Page automatically? It seems like a considerable waste of time to first load an old page, and then immediately having to refresh it manually...

    Mac Pro (late 2013) OS 12.6.2

  • Todd Phillips
    Todd Phillips Member Posts: 6,736 ✭✭✭

    fgh said:

    Can someone explain to me why I have to hit F5 to see this, when I have already restarted Logos at least 3 times after downloading the upgrade? Why doesn't the restart update the Home Page automatically? It seems like a considerable waste of time to first load an old page, and then immediately having to refresh it manually...

    I can't be sure, but I think it's set up to reload once a day, and load from cache between times (even if you restart).

    It really should reload after a new install, but I don't think it is.

    MacBook Pro (2019), ThinkPad E540

  • Mark Barnes
    Mark Barnes Member Posts: 15,432 ✭✭✭

    fgh said:

    Why doesn't the restart update the Home Page automatically?

    The home page gets regenerated each day, not on each restart - so even if you never close Logos you'll still get a new homepage, and if you frequently open and close it you'll save time generating it unnecessarily.

    This is my personal Faithlife account. On 1 March 2022, I started working for Faithlife, and have a new 'official' user account. Posts on this account shouldn't be taken as official Faithlife views!

  • Craig Ostrander
    Craig Ostrander Member Posts: 49 ✭✭

    Well I did the F5 and did get a new page. There was a article that says that the update is now shipping but there is no link to the release notes or resources update. I have updated and am on the current version. 

  • Craig Ostrander
    Craig Ostrander Member Posts: 49 ✭✭

    My homepage does not regenerate each day either. I must close the program and reopen to get the new homepage 1st thing every morning.

  • Mark Barnes
    Mark Barnes Member Posts: 15,432 ✭✭✭

    Well I did the F5 and did get a new page. There was a article that says that the update is now shipping but there is no link to the release notes or resources update. I have updated and am on the current version. 

    Perhaps try customising the home page so that it only shows the updates and release notes, to see what happens?

    This is my personal Faithlife account. On 1 March 2022, I started working for Faithlife, and have a new 'official' user account. Posts on this account shouldn't be taken as official Faithlife views!

  • Well I did the F5 and did get a new page. There was a article that says that the update is now shipping but there is no link to the release notes or resources update. I have updated and am on the current version. 

    Perhaps try customising the home page so that it only shows the updates and release notes, to see what happens?

    Using Logos 4.2a (4.21.5.0585) on Mac - Home Page regenerates when customize content items checked or unchecked:

    image

    Edit: Logos 4.2a (4.21.5.0585) was installed Feb 22 - Update Resources shows files updated after 4.2a installation.

    Keep Smiling [:)]

  • Craig Ostrander
    Craig Ostrander Member Posts: 49 ✭✭

    When I turn off everything but release notes and updated resources my home page comes up with "New heaven and earth" article and the book of the day and that is all. Do you suppose that the indexing has not completed since the upgrade? Would prevent the new features from taking effect? I don't see the indexing icon at the top but I saw a brief "growl" message that the system might run slow while Logos indexes.

     

    Craig

  • TCBlack
    TCBlack Member Posts: 10,980 ✭✭✭

    I sure can't find them on my homepage. Where are the release notes and resource updates located? I'm on a mac

     By any chance do you have the internet turned off in Logos?  (Tools → Settings)

    Hmm Sarcasm is my love language. Obviously I love you. 

  • Craig Ostrander
    Craig Ostrander Member Posts: 49 ✭✭

    Well this has been interesting to say the least but the problem is now solved. A few minutes ago I restarted Logos and even though my "about Logos" option showed the latest version of software installed, I got an onscreen message saying Logos was downloading 74 megs of updates. I let it go through the process again and went through the install process and now everything is showing as it should. I do notice there is a later build number than what was previously there. Anyways everything is good now. Thanks for all the help suggestions :)

    Still smiling,

    Craig

  • When I turn off everything but release notes and updated resources my home page comes up with "New heaven and earth" article and the book of the day and that is all. Do you suppose that the indexing has not completed since the upgrade? Would prevent the new features from taking effect? I don't see the indexing icon at the top but I saw a brief "growl" message that the system might run slow while Logos indexes.

    Possibly resources not updated after 4.2a installed (and indexed).  Previous 4.0b version on Mac did not track resource update date.

    Keep Smiling [:)]

  • I sure can't find them on my homepage. Where are the release notes and resource updates located? I'm on a mac

    After 4.2a SR-1 release and resources updated after 4.2a installation, both appear on Mac home page (similar appearance on PC):

    image

    Keep Smiling [:)]

  • Steve Johnson
    Steve Johnson Member Posts: 185 ✭✭

    Having the same problem as Craig; have tried the same solutions with no results. Have fired off an email to tech support.

    Pastor, rural Baptist church

    Notebook: Dell Precision 4400; Core 2 Duo, 2.5gh; 8Gb RAM; NVIDIA FX 770M w/ 512Mb; Win7 Pro 64-bit; Novabench 510; WEI 5.9

    Netbook: MSI Wind 12: Novabench 198; WEI 3.1

     

     

  • Michael Chambers
    Michael Chambers Member Posts: 8 ✭✭

    I have the same problem with a PC using Win7. About Logos Software shows that I now have 4.2a SR-1 (4.21.5.0709) Release Notes and Updated Resources are ticked. I have restarted several times, used F5 several times. I tried turning off everything except Release Notes and Updated Resources, but still no joy; I do not have a Home Page section showing Updated Resources. Help!

    Michael C

  • Michael Chambers
    Michael Chambers Member Posts: 8 ✭✭

    PS I also tried Update in the Command Box but got the message No updates available

  • Steve Johnson
    Steve Johnson Member Posts: 185 ✭✭

    I have the same problem with a PC using Win7...

    Michael C

    If/when I get response from tech support I'll post it here.  Am also using Win7 Pro 64-bit.

    Pastor, rural Baptist church

    Notebook: Dell Precision 4400; Core 2 Duo, 2.5gh; 8Gb RAM; NVIDIA FX 770M w/ 512Mb; Win7 Pro 64-bit; Novabench 510; WEI 5.9

    Netbook: MSI Wind 12: Novabench 198; WEI 3.1

     

     

  • I have the same problem with a PC using Win7. About Logos Software shows that I now have 4.2a SR-1 (4.21.5.0709) Release Notes and Updated Resources are ticked. I have restarted several times, used F5 several times. I tried turning off everything except Release Notes and Updated Resources, but still no joy; I do not have a Home Page section showing Updated Resources. Help!

    On PC Beta channel, after 4.2a Beta 1 release installed, followed later by resource update(s), then Resources Updated appeared on Home Page showing which resource(s) had been updated.

    Keep Smiling [:)]

  • Steve Johnson
    Steve Johnson Member Posts: 185 ✭✭

    I have the same problem with a PC using Win7. About Logos Software shows that I now have 4.2a SR-1 (4.21.5.0709)....

    Michael, I'm curious: release 4.21.5.0709 or4.21.5.0790?

    Pastor, rural Baptist church

    Notebook: Dell Precision 4400; Core 2 Duo, 2.5gh; 8Gb RAM; NVIDIA FX 770M w/ 512Mb; Win7 Pro 64-bit; Novabench 510; WEI 5.9

    Netbook: MSI Wind 12: Novabench 198; WEI 3.1

     

     

  • Michael Chambers
    Michael Chambers Member Posts: 8 ✭✭

    Sorry  - a careless mistake! Yes, it is 4.21.5.0790

  • Michael G. Halpern
    Michael G. Halpern Member Posts: 266 ✭✭
  • Michael Chambers
    Michael Chambers Member Posts: 8 ✭✭

    Thanks KS4J for responding to my problem but I don't understand your message. i have no idea what a PC Beta channel is or how this will help me. So far no one else has proposed a solution ; I'm hoping Steve will get a response from Tech Support and that he can post it here.

  • Mark Barnes
    Mark Barnes Member Posts: 15,432 ✭✭✭

    I have the same problem with a PC using Win7. About Logos Software shows that I now have 4.2a SR-1 (4.21.5.0709) Release Notes and Updated Resources are ticked. I have restarted several times, used F5 several times. I tried turning off everything except Release Notes and Updated Resources, but still no joy; I do not have a Home Page section showing Updated Resources. Help!

    Michael (and the others not seeing this info),

    You'll only get notification of updates that have been received after 4.2a was installed. Have you definitely had updates since then?

    This is my personal Faithlife account. On 1 March 2022, I started working for Faithlife, and have a new 'official' user account. Posts on this account shouldn't be taken as official Faithlife views!

  • Michael Chambers
    Michael Chambers Member Posts: 8 ✭✭

    Mark
    When I started my Logos 4 program on Thu 3rd March, I received a download of, I think, 68MB. Shortly afterwards, I had another one of about 50Mb. After verifying that I did indeed now have 4,2a SR-1, and not finding the new sections on the Home Page, I opened my Library. This is set up with a column "Last Updated". On scrolling thru my 600 books, I found 16 of them (1890 Darby Bible thru to Wilmington's Book of Bible Lists) with "today" in that column.

  • Dr. Joel Madasu
    Dr. Joel Madasu Member Posts: 277 ✭✭

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    Update Resources is checked/marked, but the list of "Updated Resources" won't show up on my homepage. Any suggestions?

  • When I started my Logos 4 program on Thu 3rd March, I received a download of, I think, 68MB. Shortly afterwards, I had another one of about 50Mb. After verifying that I did indeed now have 4,2a SR-1, and not finding the new sections on the Home Page, I opened my Library. This is set up with a column "Last Updated". On scrolling thru my 600 books, I found 16 of them (1890 Darby Bible thru to Wilmington's Book of Bible Lists) with "today" in that column.

    Puzzling - sounds like 4.2a was installed prior to resource updates - wonder if indexing was complete before resources updated.

    Observation: on an older installation, noticed 4.2a cancelled indexing if resources needed to be downloaded (had to restart Logos 4.2a several times to complete upgrade).

    Personally have 4 resources updated on Tue 1 Mar that show on my Home Page (appears updated resources goes back 5 days since 6 resources updated on Mon 28 Feb no longer display on my Home Page).

    Keep Smiling [:)]

  • shark tacos
    shark tacos Member Posts: 223 ✭✭

    Had the same problem on a mac. Here's how I got it to work:

    After updating and re-indexing I saw nothing. Weird that it does not list its own update.

    I then turned on internet in the prefs, and after restarting it said it had 250mb of updated resources to download (weird that it did not mention this earlier when I said "update now").

    After downloading that and re-indexing (again), it showed up listing the updated resources, but not the version 4.2a update.

    So the thing is it (oddly) does not show itself as being updated, and only lists stuff done after 4.2a was installed.

    Also, on mac, refreshing with f5 does not work since f5 is mapped to the monitor brightness on a laptop. Apple-R does not seem to work either, so to get it to refresh I needed to de-select and then re-select options on the homepage to get it to update.

    Hope that helps someone.[8-|]

  • fgh
    fgh Member Posts: 8,948 ✭✭✭

    I then turned on internet in the prefs, and after restarting it said it had 250mb of updated resources to download (weird that it did not mention this earlier when I said "update now").

    As I understand it that download consists of updated resources that only work in 4.2, so it couldn't download until that update was installed.

    Also, on mac, refreshing with f5 does not work since f5 is mapped to the monitor brightness on a laptop.

    I've never used a laptop, but I seem to remember from other threads that the trick is to use the function key together with F5. (I agree cmd-r ought to work!)

    Mac Pro (late 2013) OS 12.6.2

  • shark tacos
    shark tacos Member Posts: 223 ✭✭

    fgh said:

    As I understand it that download consists of updated resources that only work in 4.2, so it couldn't download until that update was installed.

     

    Interesting. Do you know where I can find out more about these updates? The homepage just lists them (as expected), but doesn't detail what was updated exactly (for example why they only work with 4.2).

     

  • Mark Barnes
    Mark Barnes Member Posts: 15,432 ✭✭✭

    fgh said:

    As I understand it that download consists of updated resources that only work in 4.2, so it couldn't download until that update was installed.

    Interesting. Do you know where I can find out more about these updates? The homepage just lists them (as expected), but doesn't detail what was updated exactly (for example why they only work with 4.2).

    It's rare that we're given that information. The closest we have for the 4.2 update is this: http://community.logos.com/forums/t/25608.aspx

    This is my personal Faithlife account. On 1 March 2022, I started working for Faithlife, and have a new 'official' user account. Posts on this account shouldn't be taken as official Faithlife views!

  • Michael Chambers
    Michael Chambers Member Posts: 8 ✭✭

    Thanks KS4J and Mark. Today I downloaded a new resource; Following completion of indexing, I expected to see it on my Home Page - but no, it wasn't there. So I tried F5 and Bingo! - there it was. Obviously the updated resources I received on the same day as my update to 4.2a must have arrived before the  4,2a update.
    I'm smiling now

  • Steve Johnson
    Steve Johnson Member Posts: 185 ✭✭

    If/when I get response from tech support I'll post it here.

    I never got a response to my email request for help (except an automated "one of our representatives will respond as soon as possible"). I submitted my request on March 3.

    I called tech support today and found out that a new 47 Mb update is available today (March 8); should be in the
    automatic update queue tomorrow.  I'm thinking it may be related to the
    problem some have been having in getting release notes and the updated
    resources list on their home page.

    Type "update now" in the command box to download today.  I assume tomorrow it will download automatically.

    Edit: the update did solve the original problem for me: "New version" and "Resource Updated" are both appearing on my home page as advertised.  Yea!

    Pastor, rural Baptist church

    Notebook: Dell Precision 4400; Core 2 Duo, 2.5gh; 8Gb RAM; NVIDIA FX 770M w/ 512Mb; Win7 Pro 64-bit; Novabench 510; WEI 5.9

    Netbook: MSI Wind 12: Novabench 198; WEI 3.1

     

     

  • Michael Chambers
    Michael Chambers Member Posts: 8 ✭✭

    EDIT:

    I spoke too soon - the smile has gone!
    On starting up Logos 4 on Wed 9/3, I received a small download of about 300Kb. This soon showed up on my Home Page under Updated Resources as Logos 4 Help. A little later in the day, I received a download of 42 Mb. Despite several restarts and uses of F5, there was nothing on my Home Page to say what it was. Today, Thu 10/3, there is still nothing new on the Home Page under Updated Resources, although it is still showing  the new resource I purchased on 8/3 ant the Help update from 9/3. What is going on?

  • Dave Hooton
    Dave Hooton MVP Posts: 36,339

    Today, Thu 10/3, there is still nothing new on the Home Page under Updated Resources, although it is still showing  the new resource I purchased on 8/3 ant the Help update from 9/3. What is going on?

    It sounds like you received the SR-2 update to the software, so you won't see that under Updated Resources. Check your About ... dialog

    Dave
    ===

    Windows 11 & Android 13

  • Michael Chambers
    Michael Chambers Member Posts: 8 ✭✭

    Thanks Dave
    I'll get the hang of this one day. I'm smiling again - at myself!

  • shark tacos
    shark tacos Member Posts: 223 ✭✭

    Don't know if this is the bet place to post this, but I would like to propose a further feature request:

    in addition to listing what has already been installed. I would like to see listed what the available update is.

    Currently there is a little window that says "available updates (84MB)" which is great, but I would like to know what those updates are.

    It would be easy to list that in the homepage under a new category "Available Updates" along side the "Recently Updated" category.

    This is how both Windows and Mac Software Updates work, and so based on that I would say it is a functionality that a lot of people would appreciate.