Showing differences between versions when pressing F7

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Simon Pleasants | Forum Activity | Posted: Tue, Mar 6 2012 1:31 PM

In the Text Comparison tool, it is possible to compare differences between one Bible version (the base text) and other versions by switching on the "Show differences" and "Show base text" options.

I'm sure that in the past I've been able to see differences between versions when I select a verse and press the F7 key. However, I've somehow managed to turn this feature off and I can't figure out how to turn it on again. Is there a way of doing this or am I mistaken in thinking that it's possible to show differences when pressing F7?

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Room4more | Forum Activity | Replied: Tue, Mar 6 2012 1:37 PM

It is the two 'A' 'A'. you use these to turn "off" or "on", I believe this is correct

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Simon Pleasants | Forum Activity | Replied: Tue, Mar 6 2012 2:02 PM

The two "A" symbols work in the Text Comparison box, but they don't appear to affect what I see when I press the F7 key.

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Graham Criddle | Forum Activity | Replied: Tue, Mar 6 2012 2:13 PM

Hi Simon

Simon Pleasants:
The two "A" symbols work in the Text Comparison box, but they don't appear to affect what I see when I press the F7 key.

it seems to affect both for me.

Are you running on Windows or Mac? What version of Logos?

Graham

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Room4more | Forum Activity | Replied: Tue, Mar 6 2012 2:27 PM

Simon Pleasants:

In the Text Comparison tool, it is possible to compare differences between one Bible version (the base text) and other versions by switching on the "Show differences" and "Show base text" options.

I'm sure that in the past I've been able to see differences between versions when I select a verse and press the F7 key. However, I've somehow managed to turn this feature off and I can't figure out how to turn it on again. Is there a way of doing this or am I mistaken in thinking that it's possible to show differences when pressing F7?

Ok I see what you are saying, I do not see any way to change the settings when I press F7, all you see is the comparison of the text to text by versions. The ‘A’ ‘s only work when you go through the tools à text comparison….I do not remember there being any header when you invoke the F7, but then I may be wrong.

I could not find anything on the wiki thingiee either.....

[edit: kids got home gotta go for a spell.....]

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Simon Pleasants | Forum Activity | Replied: Tue, Mar 6 2012 2:30 PM

Thanks for confirming that, Graham. It's interesting that it works for you. It used to work for me, but for some reason it doesn't anymore. I'm running version 4.5a (4.51.0.2048) on Windows.

Is anyone else experiencing the same problem?

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Milford Charles Murray | Forum Activity | Replied: Tue, Mar 6 2012 7:28 PM

Simon Pleasants:
Is anyone else experiencing the same problem?
Am sorry you are having a problem.  Must be very frustrating.....    Just checked mine, and I have no problem at all.

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Room4more | Forum Activity | Replied: Tue, Mar 6 2012 7:58 PM

Maybe we are not understanding each other. Here is a pic of ‘F7’ in action. You will notice there in no toolbar where you can make any changes to what is invoked by pressing ‘F7’

In the second pic you can see the toolbar[RED BOX W/ARROW] which allows the changes to various things associated with ‘Tools’ à ‘Text Comparison’.

So, lets see some pics of what others have so that we are all on the same page…ok.

{{{edit: heres the wiki> http://wiki.logos.com/Text_Comparison#What_is_the_Text_Comparison_tool.3f , I do not read anywhere where you can disable the 'F7' feature}}}

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Graham Criddle | Forum Activity | Replied: Wed, Mar 7 2012 12:29 AM

Hi Room4more

Thanks for the pictures - it does help to clarify things and I see something slightly different on my system

As you will see while I don't get the option to change settings in the F7 popup window, the settings in the Text Comparison tool are honoured in that popup whereas they don't seem to be in yours.

What version of Logos are you using? I am on 4.5b B2 and I know Simon is on 4.5a

Graham

 

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Simon Pleasants | Forum Activity | Replied: Wed, Mar 7 2012 3:34 AM

Thanks for posting those screen shots.

Graham's screen shot was what I was getting before (I knew I hadn't been imagining things!)

Room4more's screen shot is what I'm seeing now.

I'm not sure what has changed. Could it be a bug that's been fixed in later versions?

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Graham Criddle | Forum Activity | Replied: Wed, Mar 7 2012 4:02 AM

Simon Pleasants:
I'm not sure what has changed. Could it be a bug that's been fixed in later versions?

It could be but there is nothing in the release notes for 4.5b (beta releases) which talk about this and I can't think of a time when it didn't work in the way that my screenshot shows.

Milford Charles Murray:
Just checked mine, and I have no problem at all.

Milford - can you clarify what version of Logos you are currently running? Just trying to check if it is the same as Simon.

Thanks, Graham 

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Room4more | Forum Activity | Replied: Wed, Mar 7 2012 6:10 AM

AHH yes – good ol’beta……I am running the current release for us reality people. The beta, as you show Graham, may be something that will be released soon. I was a little concerned…….

Either way, I am not too worried, I do not use it that often to really notice any changes….

Thanks Graham.

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Jerry M | Forum Activity | Replied: Wed, Mar 7 2012 7:11 AM

I am running version 4.51.0.2048 in Windows and can verify that the comparison in F7 is not working for me.

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Graham Criddle | Forum Activity | Replied: Wed, Mar 7 2012 8:11 AM

Jerry M:
I am running version 4.51.0.2048 in Windows and can verify that the comparison in F7 is not working for me.

Thanks Jerry

I have created a post in the Windows Beta forum - http://community.logos.com/forums/t/46656.aspx - to try and get a Logos perspective on this.

Their technical people may well not see this discussion in the General forum.

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Milford Charles Murray | Forum Activity | Replied: Wed, Mar 7 2012 8:52 AM

Graham Criddle:

It could be but there is nothing in the release notes for 4.5b (beta releases) which talk about this and I can't think of a time when it didn't work in the way that my screenshot shows.

Milford Charles Murray:
Just checked mine, and I have no problem at all.

Milford - can you clarify what version of Logos you are currently running? Just trying to check if it is the same as Simon.

Thanks, Graham 

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Jerry M Replied: Today 7:11 AM

I am running version 4.51.0.2048 in Windows and can verify that the comparison in F7 is not working for me.

I have the same version as Jerry -- and no problems.. Strange, eh???

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Graham Criddle | Forum Activity | Replied: Wed, Mar 7 2012 9:11 AM

Hi Milford - thanks for getting back

Milford Charles Murray:
I have the same version as Jerry -- and no problems.. Strange, eh???

Interesting - your F7 popup doesn't show any crossings-out in any of the versions, which is what Jerry and Simon are reporting as well.

Do you have the compare version features set in the Text Comparison tool?

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Milford Charles Murray | Forum Activity | Replied: Wed, Mar 7 2012 9:22 AM

No, I just have "base text" set.          Hope that's helpful??   Really strange, unless you have zeroed in already on the problem that comparing might be the problem.....

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Graham Criddle | Forum Activity | Replied: Wed, Mar 7 2012 9:27 AM

Thanks Milford

Milford Charles Murray:
No, I just have "base text" set.          Hope that's helpful?? 

That is very helpful!

So you are seeing the same in the Text Comparison tool and in the F7 popup because you are using Base Text

Simon, Jerry and Room4more are also seeing the same in the tool and the popup but they are expecting to see something different because they have "Show differences" set. (Gents, if this is incorrect please advise)

I am seeing the same in both the tool and the popup (with "Show Differences" set) but I am using the beta of 4.5b whereas they are using the released version of 4.5a.

This does suggest that there may be a change in behaviour between 4.5a and 4.5b which, hopefully, Logos will be able to comment on.

Graham

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Milford Charles Murray | Forum Activity | Replied: Wed, Mar 7 2012 9:28 AM

Now, this is interesting.

Never tried it before, but I can do F7 while the Text Comparison is off to my right side...

They are different; -- one shows the strike-outs -- although that may not bear on this situation!

Peace!

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Milford Charles Murray | Forum Activity | Replied: Wed, Mar 7 2012 10:35 AM

Graham Criddle:

I am seeing the same in both the tool and the popup (with "Show Differences" set) but I am using the beta of 4.5b whereas they are using the released version of 4.5a.

This does suggest that there may be a change in behaviour between 4.5a and 4.5b which, hopefully, Logos will be able to comment on.

Sorry to burden you, Graham.  Just re-read the posts and thought I should share ... 

I am using 4.5a          (Logos Bible Software 4.5a (4.51.0.2048)              

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