4.0a Beta 2 Release Notes

Todd White
Todd White Member Posts: 71 ✭✭

4.0a Beta 2 was released today.

Bug Fixes:

  • Fixed crash on startup due to External application links in shortcuts.
  • Fixed a crash when running a syntax search.
  • Fixed issue with read aloud reference not matching the verse being read.
  • Fixed crasher when adding items to a handout without a reference being set.
  • Biblical People "Referred to as..." references are now displayed in canonical order.
  • Passage Guide topic resources are now in priority order.

New Features:

  • Changed the name of Bible Explorer to Explorer due to trademark conflict.
  • Highlighting now includes highlighter styles for foreground text color, to match the background colors.
  • Added additional highlighting styles to match what is provided in 3.0, in addition to a couple new ones requested by customers in the forums.
  • Datasheet now aligns Previous/Next Context like Aligned view.
  • Datasheet Previous/Next Context switch places when searching against a Hebrew resource.
  • Show a visual cue when read aloud starts.

Known Issues:

 

  • Merging indexes will corrupt your library index and stop field-based searches from working correctly.

 

For 4.0a Beta 1 release notes, see: http://community.logos.com/forums/t/5625.aspx

Logos 4.0a Beta Testing Guidelines

Please read the Beta Test Guidelines before installing or using Logos 4.0a Beta1

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Comments

  • spitzerpl
    spitzerpl Member Posts: 4,998 ✭✭✭

    The problem with L4B1 crashing when  opening something from the Library no longer occurs for me...Now I get to play with beta 2! Yippy!!!!

  • tjebme
    tjebme Member Posts: 326 ✭✭

    Downloaded and installed Beta 2 without an issue. Up and running.

  • Robert Pavich
    Robert Pavich Member Posts: 5,685 ✭✭✭

    Very very nice!

    I'm thinking about installing this over the top of my primary install! [:D]

    Robert Pavich

    For help go to the Wiki: http://wiki.logos.com/Table_of_Contents__

  • tjebme
    tjebme Member Posts: 326 ✭✭

    That's what I did, Robert...not that it means it will work for everyone else.

  • TCBlack
    TCBlack Member Posts: 10,980 ✭✭✭

    I'm thinking about installing this over the top of my primary install!

    After the headaches I've had this week, I don't think I will.  Second account install for me at least that's what I'm thinking at the moment....

    Hmm Sarcasm is my love language. Obviously I love you. 

  • Damian McGrath
    Damian McGrath Member Posts: 3,050 ✭✭✭

    But Thomas, if your install breaks, you'll very quickly pass the 2000 mark:

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  • Chris Elford
    Chris Elford Member Posts: 1,012 ✭✭✭

    Updated in my second account install without a hitch (except that even here I get the "error" that it cannot confirm that the prerequisites are installed, but I've seen that for a long time in updates in non-beta 4.0 - I just click Okay and everything proceeds to install without a problem)

    Really sorry to hear that Thomas the Black Guinea Pig (TBGP) is still having major problems after all the ground breaking work he did for me.

    Chris

  • Chris Elford
    Chris Elford Member Posts: 1,012 ✭✭✭

    But Thomas, if your install breaks, you'll very quickly pass the 2000 mark:

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    T2K?

  • spitzerpl
    spitzerpl Member Posts: 4,998 ✭✭✭

    FWIW I prefer the way Beta 2 is displaying the Word for Word, not having each verse in a block. I would love to see the words not expanded in an easier to see font, though.

  • TCBlack
    TCBlack Member Posts: 10,980 ✭✭✭

    Really sorry to hear that Thomas the Black Guinea Pig (TBGP) is still having major problems after all the ground breaking work he did for me.

    Now that Sr7 is running fine, I'm not having any problems.  [:)]. 

    I'll pick up the beta later, but with the inlaws in for Thanksgiving There won't be much extra computer time.

    Hmm Sarcasm is my love language. Obviously I love you. 

  • Robert Pavich
    Robert Pavich Member Posts: 5,685 ✭✭✭

    Ok...B2 installed over primary installation...cross your fingers!

    Observation: The cited by tool is cool for figuring out which early papryi contains what passages...

    image

    Robert Pavich

    For help go to the Wiki: http://wiki.logos.com/Table_of_Contents__

  • spitzerpl
    spitzerpl Member Posts: 4,998 ✭✭✭

    Observation: The cited by tool is cool for figuring out which early papryi contains what passages...

    THATS AWESOME!!!

  • Chris Elford
    Chris Elford Member Posts: 1,012 ✭✭✭

    Really sorry to hear that Thomas the Black Guinea Pig (TBGP) is still having major problems after all the ground breaking work he did for me.

    Now that Sr7 is running fine, I'm not having any problems.  Smile

    I'll pick up the beta later, but with the inlaws in for Thanksgiving There won't be much extra computer time.

    Move to Canada and you can keep on Logosing. We did Thanksgiving in Oct. because we were so thankful!

    Enjoy the day! No make it the weekend!

    BTW, these guys look familiar around here:

    image

    Chris the Canuck

  • Kevin A. Purcell
    Kevin A. Purcell Member Posts: 3,421 ✭✭✭

    Will it automatically uprade the B1 version? Or do I have to manually do it like before?

    Dr. Kevin Purcell, Director of Missions
    Brushy Mountain Baptist Association

    www.kevinpurcell.org

  • Chris Elford
    Chris Elford Member Posts: 1,012 ✭✭✭

    Will it automatically uprade the B1 version? Or do I have to manually do it like before?

    Mine did. As soon as I opened it today - I was using SR7 in my other profile most of the day - it started the download right off.

    Chris

  • JH
    JH Member Posts: 801 ✭✭✭

    4.0a Beta 2 was released today.

    Keep up the great work, Logos.  L4 is great!

  • Kevin A. Purcell
    Kevin A. Purcell Member Posts: 3,421 ✭✭✭

    Will it automatically uprade the B1 version? Or do I have to manually do it like before?

    Mine did. As soon as I opened it today - I was using SR7 in my other profile most of the day - it started the download right off.

    Chris

    Yep. That's the ticket.

    Has anyone successfully installed this beta on sr7 without it hosing the whole thing?

    Dr. Kevin Purcell, Director of Missions
    Brushy Mountain Baptist Association

    www.kevinpurcell.org

  • TCBlack
    TCBlack Member Posts: 10,980 ✭✭✭

    I snagged a bit of time and installed b2 on a second account.  I just finished installing, and copying files.    I was able to load a book without crashing!  Yay!

     

    Hmm Sarcasm is my love language. Obviously I love you. 

  • Mitch Davis
    Mitch Davis Member Posts: 502 ✭✭

    Okay, I got a bit bold from my fellow guinea pigs ([:S]) and took the plunge using 4.0B2 on my main laptop. So far soooooo goooooood. [:D]

  • Michael G Parry-Thomas
    Michael G Parry-Thomas Member Posts: 417 ✭✭

     hi everybody

     

     I've got version   beta 2 install everything seems to be okay, install over the top of the previous installation

    mick[:)]

  • Jerry Bush
    Jerry Bush Member Posts: 1,156 ✭✭✭

    I did not try Beta 1, but based on comments here I decided to take the plunge on Beta 2. Everything is up to date on my test machine and it is running SR-7. Downloaded the installer, and it crashes right out of the gate.

    Error dialog:

    Jerryimage

    image

    Macbook Air (2024), Apple M2, 16gb Ram, Mac Sequoia, 1TB storage

  • SteveF
    SteveF Member Posts: 1,866 ✭✭✭

    Could you folks confirm two things:

    I have Logos on laptop (used for church powerpoint etc) & on Home tower. 

    I cannot/must not mess-up the laptop, therefore new Beta versions will not be put on it.

    Nor do I want the Tower to synch any "beta" version with the laptop.

    1. Therefore, I assume I must add the "extra" install under another "user" in order to keep the Tower from syncing?

    2. Even if I were to scrub all of L4 from my primary drawer to install the beta, that would not really be an option because of the desire to keep the laptop "safe."

    Thanks

    Steve

    (I just do NOT want to make any faulty assumptions)

    Regards, SteveF

  • TCBlack
    TCBlack Member Posts: 10,980 ✭✭✭

    1. Therefore, I assume I must add the "extra" install under another "user" in order to keep the Tower from syncing?

    From the beta release notes (http://community.logos.com/forums/t/5385.aspx):

    Some documents in Logos 4.0a Beta 1 have
    changed their internal formats since the release of 4.0; these
    documents will not be synced to your 4.0 installation. The new types of
    documents that will be added to 4.0a (e.g., verse lists) will also not
    be synced. However, existing document types that haven’t changed their
    internal formats will continue to sync between 4.0 and 4.0a Beta
    1.

    Hmm Sarcasm is my love language. Obviously I love you. 

  • Bohuslav Wojnar
    Bohuslav Wojnar Member Posts: 3,477 ✭✭✭

    I installed L4A1 Beta to the special User "Logos Beta". It synced with the SR7 without any problems, just all highlights were gone. Now I Installed L4A2 Beta to my main profile. I uninstalled SR7, deleted all the Logos 4 files and installed the Beta. Then I scanned the backup Resources folder from the previous Beta and it works great so far.

    Bohuslav

  • Mitch Davis
    Mitch Davis Member Posts: 502 ✭✭

    I uninstalled SR7, deleted all the Logos 4 files and installed the Beta.

     

    Bohuslav,

    I simply installed 4.0B2 over the SR-7. Works great that way as well.

    Was there a reason you chose the uninstall/install route?

  • Bohuslav Wojnar
    Bohuslav Wojnar Member Posts: 3,477 ✭✭✭

    I uninstalled SR7, deleted all the Logos 4 files and installed the Beta.

     

    Bohuslav,

    I simply installed 4.0B2 over the SR-7. Works great that way as well.

    Was there a reason you chose the uninstall/install route?

    I think (if I am not mistaken) that was the initial advice to do before installing the Beta.

    EDIT:  Now I looked to the first post announcing the Beta and I realized I misread the advice. It says we have to do that when we want to go back to SR7. Thanks for your info.

    Bohuslav

  • PL
    PL Member Posts: 2,159 ✭✭✭

    I also installed B2 on top of SR-7.  Works beautifully... nice new features;  My suggestions:

    1) Please give us the option of the original vs. the new colorful/chaotic style of Interesting Words and Topics.  Using the new style with the Chinese Bible (CUV) returns many, many more characters and renders this tool unusable.  This seems to be true with English Bibles too (compare old and new Interesting Words for same passage).  Please also add the option of showing Interesting Words for a different Bible version on the PG.

    2) Please make the Information window show untruncated content soon.

    Thanks,

    Peter

  • Dudley Rose
    Dudley Rose Member Posts: 278 ✭✭

    I'm running B2 on a second account on an XP SP3 machine.  Since it is working well, I'm considering installing it in my main account, over sr7.  I've looked and searched, but I'm not sure about the following:

    If I uninstall B2 from the second account, will it affect the installation in my main account?

    Thanks,
    Dudley

  • Bohuslav Wojnar
    Bohuslav Wojnar Member Posts: 3,477 ✭✭✭

    I'm running B2 on a second account on an XP SP3 machine.  Since it is working well, I'm considering installing it in my main account, over sr7.  I've looked and searched, but I'm not sure about the following:

    If I uninstall B2 from the second account, will it affect the installation in my main account?

    Thanks,
    Dudley

    Somehow it did not work for me. The uninstall got stack. So I just deleted the user profile (the way Windows offer to do it, allowed to delete also all files) and than used my regular registry maintenance tool (Advanced SystemCare) to correct the registry. It works great for me. But there might be the more easy and correct way to do it.

    Bohuslav

  • Dudley Rose
    Dudley Rose Member Posts: 278 ✭✭

    Thanks Bohuslav,

    Unfortunately, I'd rather not delete this second account.  If others have uninstalled B2 from a second account and then loaded it over the sr7 installation in their main user account, I'd appreciate any pointers for 1) success, and 2) total removal of the B2 from the 2nd account, I'd very much apptreciate any tips or cautions.

    Thanks,
    Dudley

  • Richard Crampton
    Richard Crampton Member Posts: 61 ✭✭

    Installed on my netbook over sr-7 with no problem.  Seems to work fine.

  • Dudley Rose
    Dudley Rose Member Posts: 278 ✭✭

    Sorry if I've not been clear what I want to do.  Currently I have 2 installations of Logos 4, sr7 and B2, on the same machine in separate user accounts:

    User account 1--sr7
    User account 2--B2

    I would like uninstall B2 from user account 2 and install B2 on top of sr7 in user account 1, thereby ending up with just one Logos 4 installation, which would be B2 on user account 1.  I'm hoping someone can confirm that uninstalling B2 from user account 2 will not disrupt anything in the sr7 installation in user account 1, or at least anything that would complicate what I am trying to accomplish.

    Thanks for the patience,
    Dudley

  • TCBlack
    TCBlack Member Posts: 10,980 ✭✭✭

    Dudley,

    No worries my friend.  L4 installs as a per user program.  Go ahead and remove B2 from User 2.  It will not affect user 1 UNLESS you did a custom install for each and installed them to the same location, which you did not - since you're running two different versions.

    Hmm Sarcasm is my love language. Obviously I love you. 

  • Dudley Rose
    Dudley Rose Member Posts: 278 ✭✭

    Thanks, Thomas!

    Dudley

    Dudley,

    No worries my friend.  L4 installs as a per user program.  Go ahead and remove B2 from User 2.  It will not affect user 1 UNLESS you did a custom install for each and installed them to the same location, which you did not - since you're running two different versions.

     

  • John Graves
    John Graves Member Posts: 336 ✭✭

    I just installed the Beta 2 on my vista 64 bit machine and it is working great!  It is much faster than 4.0.

  • Harry Hahne
    Harry Hahne Member Posts: 766 ✭✭

    For 4.0a Beta 1 release notes

    I really appreciate having this list of changes in each beta version. It would be fantastic if there was a readme file or "What's New" section in the help for the official version upgrades that would tell what has been changed in that version. I don't like that I must find the changes with each new version by trial and error. If people know what is changed, they might be more likely to make use of the new features.

  • Bohuslav Wojnar
    Bohuslav Wojnar Member Posts: 3,477 ✭✭✭

    Thanks Bohuslav,

    Unfortunately, I'd rather not delete this second account.  If others have uninstalled B2 from a second account and then loaded it over the sr7 installation in their main user account, I'd appreciate any pointers for 1) success, and 2) total removal of the B2 from the 2nd account, I'd very much apptreciate any tips or cautions.

    Thanks,
    Dudley

    OK, than you need to uninstall the Beta version the regular way. I hope it works. What I realize might be my problem was, that I tried to uninstall it while the other user account was active also (Logos was shut down however in that account). I noticed I had crash of Logos if there were both user accounts active and 2 different Logos sessions (SR7 and Beta) running on the same computer under the 2 different user accounts. Anybody else has the same experience? Of course it is not standard situation you would have 2 sessions of Logos running on the same computer. It happens only if you do not shut down the first user account and open the other one and in both you have Logos running. Just and observation.

    Bohuslav

  • Chris Elford
    Chris Elford Member Posts: 1,012 ✭✭✭

    I noticed I had crash of Logos if there were both user accounts active and 2 different Logos sessions (SR7 and Beta) running on the same computer under the 2 different user accounts. Anybody else has the same experience? Of course it is not standard situation you would have 2 sessions of Logos running on the same computer. It happens only if you do not shut down the first user account and open the other one and in both you have Logos running. Just and observation.

    I experienced this also. I assumed it was because two separate, but different, versions of L4 were simultaneously trying to sync to the Logos server (Not sure a "non-active" session - the one in the other profile - would be able to sync). Didn't think long, just closed both (one crashed) and restarted one - worked fine. Didn't think of it as a bug. But maybe it is.

    Since I only have one computer capable of handling Logos, I have not installed on two computers. Can you run L4 simultaneously on both? In the same version only (SR7 on both)? With different versions (4.0b2 on one and SR7 on the other)? If you can, should it work on a single machine in two profiles? Or does it share some common files that can only be accessed by one engine at a time. Has anyone had two installs of the same version in two profiles on the same machine running at the same time (husband and wife sharing computer?) or is it only different version that cause the crash?

    Chris

  • Ed
    Ed Member Posts: 99 ✭✭

    Added additional highlighting styles to match what is provided in 3.0, in addition to a couple new ones requested by customers in the forums.

    Thanks for all of these and if you have a chance I would love to see this one.

    http://community.logos.com/forums/p/5698/44207.aspx#44207

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  • Dave Hooton
    Dave Hooton MVP Posts: 36,162

    Since I only have one computer capable of handling Logos, I have not installed on two computers. Can you run L4 simultaneously on both? In the same version only (SR7 on both)? With different versions (4.0b2 on one and SR7 on the other)? If you can, should it work on a single machine in two profiles? Or does it share some common files that can only be accessed by one engine at a time. Has anyone had two installs of the same version in two profiles on the same machine running at the same time (husband and wife sharing computer?) or is it only different version that cause the crash?

    I have run two sessions simultaneously on two machines with

    • same versions from secret betas thru SR-7
    • different versions SR-7 and 4.0a

    I've let each machine sync off each other (sometimes producing duplicates).

    It should work on a single machine in two simultaneous user profiles (Windows Vista Logo reqmnt), although there is an architectural let-off!

    I have two versions on my laptop but running in two OS (multi-boot) - it might be interesting to try one in a virtual machine simultaneously with one in the host!

    Dave
    ===

    Windows 11 & Android 13

  • Debra W Bouey
    Debra W Bouey Member Posts: 304 ✭✭

    Installed L4B1 over my L4 shortly after its release. Now running the L4B2. In both cases, everything was and is up and running smoothly ... so far.

    Edit: Forgot to mention, OS is Win7 64 bit

    Lenovo P72: Intel 8th Gen i7-8750H 6-core, 32GB RAM, 2TB HDD + 1TB Sata SSD, 17.3" FHD 1920x1080, NVIDIA Quadro P600 4GB, Win 10 Pro

  • Pastor Larry Diggs
    Pastor Larry Diggs Member Posts: 16 ✭✭

    Todd,

     

    How do I find out there is a new Bata released? 

     

    Thanks

     

    Lawrence

  • TCBlack
    TCBlack Member Posts: 10,980 ✭✭✭

    How do I find out there is a new Bata released? 

    Just watch this beta forum.

    Hmm Sarcasm is my love language. Obviously I love you. 

  • Harry Hahne
    Harry Hahne Member Posts: 766 ✭✭

    Has anyone successfully installed this beta on sr7 without it hosing the whole thing?

    It installed flawlessly on a Windows XP laptop with 2 GB ram.

  • Jerry Bush
    Jerry Bush Member Posts: 1,156 ✭✭✭

    I did not try Beta 1, but based on comments here I decided to take the plunge on Beta 2. Everything is up to date on my test machine and it is running SR-7. Downloaded the installer, and it crashes right out of the gate.

    Error dialog:

    Jerryimage

    image

    Does anyone have any ideas? I even re-downloaded the installer to make sure it was good, and I get the same results.

     

    Help?

    Jerry

    Macbook Air (2024), Apple M2, 16gb Ram, Mac Sequoia, 1TB storage

  • Melissa Snyder
    Melissa Snyder Member Posts: 4,702 ✭✭✭


    I did not try Beta 1, but based on comments here I decided to take the plunge on Beta 2. Everything is up to date on my test machine and it is running SR-7. Downloaded the installer, and it crashes right out of the gate.

    Error dialog:

    Jerry

     

    Does anyone have any ideas? I even re-downloaded the installer to make sure it was good, and I get the same results.

     

    Help?

    Jerry


    Hi Jerry,

    Could you please enable logging and attach all the log files to this thread? Use these links to enable and disable logging:

                                    http://www.logos.com/media/tech/4xLogging/enablelogging.js

                                    http://www.logos.com/media/tech/4xLogging/disablelogging.js


    Thanks,
    Melissa

  • Jerry Bush
    Jerry Bush Member Posts: 1,156 ✭✭✭

    Melissa -

    I will do that, but I have to wait until I get home this evening. I am testing it on that machine and leaving my main study computer alone here at the church.

    After I sent that however, I created a new user account and it did install. I had to run out the door as it was preparing to download, but the other one would not even install.

    I will get the info to you later today. Thank you!

    Jerry

    Macbook Air (2024), Apple M2, 16gb Ram, Mac Sequoia, 1TB storage

  • Steven Yu
    Steven Yu Member Posts: 212 ✭✭

    Just upgrade my laptop hdd, can I do a clean install using the beta installer without installer the initial release than upgrade?

    "And you will know the truth, and the truth will set you free", John 8:32.
    "你們必定認識真理,真理必定使你們自由", 約翰福音 8:3.

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