We need more books on the Doctrine of Hell

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JoshInRI | Forum Activity | Replied: Mon, May 27 2013 9:42 AM

I mean this sincerely and not offhandedly....God bless you Mitchell. 

I appreciated everyone's thoughtful suggestions in here and the interaction helped me utilize Logos 5.0 to inform my sermon (it was a cinch to find the passages in the Gospels with it - logos4:Search;kind=Bible;q=Hell;match=stem) which went reasonably well.  Its only my second sermon and was "topical" but I hope to revisit this subject and do an expositional sermon focused upon one passage in the future instead. 

I enjoyed using Logos to locate what Jesus said and intended.  Logos use shows us quickly Our Lord did speak on this important topic. I am glad this thread will exist for me/others to return to listing Logos resources for future study and sermons. 

Glory to God.  Jesus Lead On.Smile

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Edwin Bowden | Forum Activity | Replied: Mon, May 27 2013 10:39 AM

Joshua Lieder:

We need more books on the Doctrine of Hell and What Jesus specifically said about it?

Let me preface the following statement with the fact that I strongly believe in a literal hell. I also believe that some emphasize it more than the apostles did.

If you do a Bible search for "hell" in the book of Acts and Paul's Epistles, you will not find the word used at all.

Ask yourself, if we do not find "hell" used in Paul's writing and the recorded messages in Acts, how much was it emphasized in the NT church? 

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Evan Boardman | Forum Activity | Replied: Mon, May 27 2013 11:24 AM

The people back then believed in hell, there was no need to teach the doctrine. But how to escape it did need teaching.

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Deacon Steve | Forum Activity | Replied: Mon, May 27 2013 1:01 PM

Edwin Bowden:

Joshua Lieder:

We need more books on the Doctrine of Hell and What Jesus specifically said about it?

Let me preface the following statement with the fact that I strongly believe in a literal hell. I also believe that some emphasize it more than the apostles did.

If you do a Bible search for "hell" in the book of Acts and Paul's Epistles, you will not find the word used at all.

Ask yourself, if we do not find "hell" used in Paul's writing and the recorded messages in Acts, how much was it emphasized in the NT church? 

Interesting subject and comment.  I'll take your word for it that Paul never ever talk about "hell".  Does he talk about life after death?  Or what happens after death?  Or Sheol?  Or anything related?  How do I use Logos to do the research?

 

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Mitchell | Forum Activity | Replied: Mon, May 27 2013 1:01 PM

Joshua Lieder:
I mean this sincerely and not offhandedly....God bless you Mitchell. 

Thank you Joshua. You as well.

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Milford Charles Murray | Forum Activity | Replied: Mon, May 27 2013 2:12 PM

Steve:

Edwin Bowden:

Joshua Lieder:

We need more books on the Doctrine of Hell and What Jesus specifically said about it?

Let me preface the following statement with the fact that I strongly believe in a literal hell. I also believe that some emphasize it more than the apostles did.

If you do a Bible search for "hell" in the book of Acts and Paul's Epistles, you will not find the word used at all.

Ask yourself, if we do not find "hell" used in Paul's writing and the recorded messages in Acts, how much was it emphasized in the NT church? 

Interesting subject and comment.  I'll take your word for it that Paul never ever talk about "hell".  Does he talk about life after death?  Or what happens after death?  Or Sheol?  Or anything related?  How do I use Logos to do the research?

 

Peace, Steve!        *smile*

           I for one appreciate the wonderful and unique way that St. Paul talks about life and death in his writings!         A lot!     Very special.

I'm going to have to think about how to use Logos to do the research ...         *smile*                  Most of my knowledge and understanding of Paul's preaching comes from my mind and heart after years and years of reading The Holy Word!             

For example:

To Live Is Christ

Yes, and I will rejoice, 19 for I know that fthrough your prayers and gthe help of hthe Spirit of Jesus Christ this will turn out for my deliverance, 20 as it is my eager expectation and hope ithat I will not be at all ashamed, but that with full jcourage now as always Christ kwill be honored in my body, lwhether by life or by death. 21 For to me mto live is Christ, and to die is gain. 22 If I am to live in the flesh, that means fruitful labor for me. Yet which I shall choose I cannot tell. 23 nI am hard pressed between the two. My desire is oto depart and pbe with Christ, for that is far better

 ....   and here's another lovely one (There are many, many passages from Paul about life and death!)

37 No, in all these things we are more than yconquerors through zhim who loved us. 38 For I am sure that neither death nor life, nor angels nor rulers, nor things present nor things to come, nor powers, 39 nor height nor depth, nor anything else in all creation, will be able to separate us from the love of God in Christ Jesus our Lord.

Philippians 4:  4 Rejoice in the Lord always; again I will say, Rejoice. 5 Let your reasonableness be known to everyone. The Lord is at hand..........

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Deacon Steve | Forum Activity | Replied: Mon, May 27 2013 2:35 PM

Thanks Milford.  Smile

I guess I'm lost on Edwin's comment.

Edwin Bowden:

Ask yourself, if we do not find "hell" used in Paul's writing and the recorded messages in Acts, how much was it emphasized in the NT church? 

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George Somsel | Forum Activity | Replied: Mon, May 27 2013 5:48 PM

Why are you so interested in Hell?  Are you planning a trip?  Smile

I understand that it operates on the Raid Roach Motel principle (the bug killer)—you can check in, but you can't check out. Wink

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יְמֵי־שְׁנוֹתֵינוּ בָהֶם שִׁבְעִים שָׁנָה וְאִם בִּגְבוּרֹת שְׁמוֹנִים שָׁנָה וְרָהְבָּם עָמָל וָאָוֶן

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tom | Forum Activity | Replied: Tue, May 28 2013 4:50 AM

George Somsel:
I understand that it operates on the Raid Roach Motel principle (the bug killer)—you can check in, but you can't check out. Wink

hmmm, I understood that it operated like "Hotel California" where "You can check-out any time you like, But you can never leave!" Wink

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George Somsel | Forum Activity | Replied: Tue, May 28 2013 5:45 AM

tom:

George Somsel:
I understand that it operates on the Raid Roach Motel principle (the bug killer)—you can check in, but you can't check out. Wink

hmmm, I understood that it operated like "Hotel California" where "You can check-out any time you like, But you can never leave!" Wink

Same principle.

george
gfsomsel

יְמֵי־שְׁנוֹתֵינוּ בָהֶם שִׁבְעִים שָׁנָה וְאִם בִּגְבוּרֹת שְׁמוֹנִים שָׁנָה וְרָהְבָּם עָמָל וָאָוֶן

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Rosie Perera | Forum Activity | Replied: Tue, May 28 2013 11:00 AM

George Somsel:

tom:

George Somsel:
I understand that it operates on the Raid Roach Motel principle (the bug killer)—you can check in, but you can't check out. Wink

hmmm, I understood that it operated like "Hotel California" where "You can check-out any time you like, But you can never leave!" Wink

Same principle.

Not quite. Your version is missing the pun: "check out" is a euphemism for "die."

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Jack Caviness | Forum Activity | Replied: Wed, May 29 2013 4:18 AM

Rosie Perera:

George Somsel:

tom:

George Somsel:
I understand that it operates on the Raid Roach Motel principle (the bug killer)—you can check in, but you can't check out. Wink

hmmm, I understood that it operated like "Hotel California" where "You can check-out any time you like, But you can never leave!" Wink

Same principle.

Not quite. Your version is missing the pun: "check out" is a euphemism for "die."

Strange how our minds work based on expectation. Read the OP as "check-in" until you call attention to the pun 

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Ken McGuire | Forum Activity | Replied: Wed, May 29 2013 5:36 AM

I just ran into a wonderful little book.  Over 50 years ago Jaroslav Pelikan gave a set of lectures on early Christian views of Death, highlighting five different early christian figures. For better or worse, these are print versions of lectures, so there are no footnotes, but while that limits its research usefulness, it is still a nice introduction to the variety of early christian thought by a top notch historian...

Jaroslav Pelikan - The Shape of Death, 1961, Abingdon Press (from lectures at Knox in Toronto in Sept of 1959)

SDG

Ken McGuire

The Gospel is not ... a "new law," on the contrary, ... a "new life." - William Julius Mann

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Milford Charles Murray | Forum Activity | Replied: Wed, May 29 2013 6:08 AM

Thanks, Ken, for the pleasant "reminder" of Pelikan's book!              I used to own it and really appreciated it!            A few years ago I gave that and most of my "print" books to one of our Canadian Seminaries .........            Got a nice receipt for income tax credit!            *smile*

                                                                                           Psalm 29:11

Philippians 4:  4 Rejoice in the Lord always; again I will say, Rejoice. 5 Let your reasonableness be known to everyone. The Lord is at hand..........

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Dean J | Forum Activity | Replied: Wed, May 29 2013 6:24 AM

Rosie Perera:

Thank you for this suggestion--have just ordered it.

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Martha J. Richert | Forum Activity | Replied: Sat, Jun 1 2019 8:33 AM

Why don't Christians simply agree to disagree on the subject of eternal torture?  Martha Richert

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John W | Forum Activity | Replied: Sat, Jun 1 2019 8:59 AM

Thanks Mark! I'm always amazed at how helpful your comments are (I discovered Fudge's book in my L library as a result). 

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Denise | Forum Activity | Replied: Sat, Jun 1 2019 9:43 AM

This is an older thread, by in the unlikely event you're interested, one of the mentioned Bernstein volumes appears to have been expanded:

https://www.amazon.com/Hell-Its-Rivals-Retribution-Christians-ebook/dp/B07176Q7X2 


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Keep Smiling 4 Jesus :) | Forum Activity | Replied: Sat, Jun 1 2019 4:22 PM

Martha J. Richert:

Why don't Christians simply agree to disagree on the subject of eternal torture?  Martha Richert

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Thankful for many friendly forum discussions; have learned a lot plus have a lot to learn.

Faithlife ebooks (Vyrso replacement) currently has 264 results for Hell => https://ebooks.faithlife.com/search?query=hell&sortBy=Savings&limit=60&page=1&filters=status-live_Status&ownership=unowned (URL includes ownership filter to exclude ebooks already owned)

Logos.com offers 331 resources about Hell => https://www.logos.com/products/search?q=hell&Status=Live&unlocked=no (URL includes older way to exclude resources already owned)

One way to filter Logos/Verbum library for resources (includes ebooks) about Hell is:

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DAL | Forum Activity | Replied: Sat, Jun 1 2019 6:06 PM

Martha J. Richert:

Why don't Christians simply agree to disagree on the subject of eternal torture?  Martha Richert

Because then Christians would be cowards in the eyes of God. Heaven and Hell is a salvation issue. You can’t simply dismiss either one with a “let’s agree to disagree.”

Anyway, in either case, the forums are to discuss software and Faithlife products not “Theology.” 👍😁👌 Wow it’s been 6 years since this was posted! Time sure flies!!!

DAL

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