We need more books on the Doctrine of Hell

We need more books on the Doctrine of Hell and What Jesus specifically said about it?

I would begin with WHATEVER HAPPENED TO HELL? by John Blanchard.

Why isn't this important book in the Logos collection please?

p.s. (Yes I know about Chan's book, Erasing Hell, thanks and no I am not interested AT ALL with Rob Bell's sad errant bestseller either).

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DAL

No books on hell because many have become tolerant and only want to present a lovey dovey Jesus who tolerates sin and sinners. Share your faith, share your love and share the love of Jesus with others and it's all about love and the kindness of God, but many have thrown aside the severity of God (Romans 11:22) and the fact that our God is a consuming fire (Hebrews 12:29) and that it is a fearful thing to fall into the hands of the living God (Hebrews 10:31). Seems like hell offends people and who are you to judge, etc. and therefore many play politics in the church.

That's what I've observed in many churches now days. Some might like my comment, some my not, I'm not judging anybody, just stating facts. And before some start giving me a fit about my comment, for the record: I'm not generalizing! I know there's still a remnant who remains faithful to God and presents His whole counsel like Paul, the great soldier of the Cross, did (Acts 20:26-27).

I try to be balanced in my preaching, but a lot of the preaching now days lacks Bible and focuses only on the "sweet" side of God which quite honestly, can become "cloying" over time.

By the way, "Cloying" is a word I looked up on the dictionary to translate my thoughts from Spanish to English, so hopefully the word was used correctly, if not, feel free to correct me ;-)

Happy Lord's Day!

DAL

Mark Barnes

I would begin with WHATEVER HAPPENED TO HELL? by John Blanchard.

That's a good book, and it would be good to see it in Logos (the publisher has several books in Logos now, so perhaps this one will come one day).

In the meantime, you may like this one: http://www.logos.com/product/26689/hell-under-fire-modern-scholarship-reinvents-eternal-punishment

I doubt you'll like this one, but it's an important book: http://www.logos.com/product/20263/the-fire-that-consumes-a-biblical-and-historical-study-of-the-doctrine-of-final-punishment-3rd-ed

Donovan R. Palmer

https://community.logos.com/discussion/comment/490521#Comment_490521

Don't forget the Zondervan Counterpoints 'Four Views of Hell'. Logos has a number of the Counterpoints books, but this one hasn't been released yet.

Tommy Miller

"Hell? Yes? (And Other Outrageous Truths You Can Still Believe)" by Robert Jeffress (Water Brook Press) has a wonderful chapter called "God Sends Good People to Hell." It is excellent. D. James Kennedy called the book "...a most provocative work..." It should be in Logos.

I find it very interesting that "Four Views on Hell" from the Counterpoints Series by Zondervan (William Crockett, Gen. Editor) is not available. At least 21 of the other Counterpoints books are on Logos, but not this one. Why not this topic? Of course, with the price of Zondervan books on Logos it is definitely cheaper in print! I paid $6.99 for my copy. Counterpoint books are $14-$16 in sets on Logos! Hey, Logos, can I buy the "paperback" edition?

Tony Evans preached a really good sermon called: "You Can Go to Hell!" The subtitle put it into perspective: "or You Can Go to Heaven."

My favorite sermon, however, is from the late Dr. Ken Connolly. In quiet tones of Scottish brogue he spoke simply on the Rich Man in Luke 16. He never raised his voice, he never shed a tear. But I wept for the Rich Man when he was finished.

Spurgeon mentioned "Hell" 9,860 times in my Logos collection on Spurgeon. He said this: "There are some ministers who never mention anything about hell. I heard of a minister who once said to his congregation, 'If you do not love the Lord Jesus Christ, you will be sent to that place which it is not polite to mention.' He ought not to have been allowed to preach again, I am sure, for he could not use plain words."
[C. H. Spurgeon, 2,200 Quotations: From the Writings of Charles H. Spurgeon : Arranged Topically or Textually and Indexed by Subject, Scripture, and People, ed. Tom Carter (Grand Rapids, MI: Baker Books, 1995). Exported from Logos Bible Software 5, 3:53 PM May 19, 2013.]

Spurgeon concluded another sermon this way:
I have not shunned to preach of hell with all its horrors, until I have been laughed at, as if I always preached upon it. I have not shunned to preach upon the most sweet and pleasing themes of the gospel, till I have feared lest I should make my preaching effeminate, instead of retaining the masculine vigour of a Boanerges. I have not shunned to preach the law; that great commandment has wrung in your ears, “Thou shalt love the Lord thy God, and thou shalt love thy neighbour as thyself.” I have never feared the great, nor have I courted their smile; I have rebuked nobility as I would rebuke the peasantry, and to everyone of you I have dealt a portion of meat in due season. I know that this much can be said of me—“Here stands one that never feared the face of man yet;” and I hope never will. Amidst contumely, and rebuke, and reproach, I have sought to be faithful to you and to my God. If then, you will be damned, let me have this one thing as a consolation for your misery, when I shall think of so frightful a thought—that you are not damned for the want of calling after; you are not lost for the want of weeping after, and not lost, let me add, for the want of praying after. In the name of him who shall judge the quick and dead according to my Gospel, and of him that shall come in the clouds of heaven, and by that fearful say when the pillars of this earth shall totter, and the heavens shall fall about your ears—by that day when “Depart, ye cursed,” or “Come, ye blessed,” must be the dread alternative, I charge you, lay these things to heart, and as I shall face my God to account for my honesty to you, and my faithfulness to him, so remember, you must stand before his bar, to give an account of how you heard, and how you acted after hearing; and woe unto you if, having been lifted up like Capernaum with privileges, you should be cast down like Sodom and Gomorrah, or lower still than they, because you repented not.
Oh! Master! turn sinners to thyself; for Jesus sake! Amen.

[C. H. Spurgeon, The New Park Street Pulpit Sermons, Vol. IV (London; Glasgow: Passmore & Alabaster; James Paul; George John Stevenson; George Gallie, 1858). Exported from Logos Bible Software 5, 4:14 PM May 19, 2013.]

Charles Spurgeon and Jesus Christ both had great results from preaching on Hell!

MJ. Smith

https://community.logos.com/discussion/comment/490541#Comment_490541

If you guys would cut the negative junk out of the above posts and simply ask for / give reasonable suggestions, I would respond with the following list of possibilities.

Christ the Conqueror of Hell: The Descent into Hades from an Orthodox Perspective by Archbishop Hilarion Alfeyev
Two Views of Hell: A Biblical & Theological Dialogue (Spectrum) by Edward William Fudge and Robert A. Peterson
The Nature of Heaven and Hell According to the Holy Fathers by Lazar Puhalo
Seeds of Heaven and Hell in the Heart: An Orthodox Perspective on Passions, Virtues, and Life After Death by Igumen Sergius Bowyer
Her Gates Will Never Be Shut: Hell, Hope, and the New Jerusalem by Bradley Jersak
Death and Afterlife: A Theological Introduction by Terence Nichols

I think the list is a reasonable list of contemporary work on the topic. They cover a range of views and respect tradition.

Rosie Perera

They also already have:

Hell: A Hard Look at a Hard Question by David J. Powys
The Other Side of the Good News: Contemporary Challenges to Jesus' Teaching on Hell by Larry Dixon
Hell Is Real (But I Hate to Admit It) by Brian Jones (on Vyrso)
Who Goes There: A Cultural History of Heaven and Hell by Rebecca Price Janney (on Vyrso)
Eternal Punishment by Arthur Pink
Death and the Afterlife: The Biblical Doctrine of the Immortality of the Soul and Eternal Conscious Punishment by Robert Morey
The Doctrine of Endless Punishment by William G. T. Shedd
Death and Afterwards by H. A. Ironside
Primitive Conceptions of Death and the Nether World in the Old Testament by Nicholas Tromp

Bruce Dunning

https://community.logos.com/discussion/comment/490578#Comment_490578

If you guys would cut the negative junk out of the above posts and simply ask for / give reasonable suggestions

My observations is that most are not able to simply comment or suggest without showing their personal opinions on the matter and that often can come across as negative. We all must be careful to present our opinions/convictions in a way that is positive. Thanks for the reminder.

Deacon Steve

https://community.logos.com/discussion/comment/490578#Comment_490578

It seems like a good time to review the rules of the forum.

[:)]

JoshInRI

https://community.logos.com/discussion/comment/490620#Comment_490620

Thanks everyone for the suggestions. [:)]

I might be missing something but I dont see any negative replies.

Maybe they were deleted already. I probably should have requested Protestant Evangelical (non-reformed) books on Hell.

Eric Weiss

https://community.logos.com/discussion/comment/490541#Comment_490541

"Hell? Yes? (And Other Outrageous Truths You Can Still Believe)" by Robert Jeffress (Water Brook Press) has a wonderful chapter called "God Sends Good People to Hell." It is excellent. D. James Kennedy called the book "...a most provocative work..." It should be in Logos.

Robert Jeffress (pastor, FBC Dallas) and D. James Kennedy?

Top scholars on the subject, I'm sure. [:#]

Meanwhile, here's an interesting book worth reading and having in Logos: The Formation of Hell: Death and Retribution in the Ancient and Early Christian Worlds

JoshInRI

Its me Joshua the poster for this thread.....

i am preaching on What Jesus said about Hell and Why it Still Matters.

The title may give everyone an idea where I am headed "Their Worm Does Not Die"

Brandon Rappuhn

I'm not sure if it's been mentioned, but Hell Under Fire is a pretty good book on the topic, with a good perspective of opinions. I read a few essays from it a few years ago. Has anyone else read it?

https://www.logos.com/product/26689/hell-under-fire-modern-scholarship-reinvents-eternal-punishment

Graham Criddle

https://community.logos.com/discussion/comment/490693#Comment_490693

HI Brandon

I'm not sure if it's been mentioned, but Hell Under Fire is a pretty good book on the topic, with a good perspective of opinions

I agree it is an interesting book (Mark Barnes referenced it in a post above as well) and that it does present a good range of opinions - while arguing for a particular position and understanding.

Well worth reading

Graham

Brandon Rappuhn

https://community.logos.com/discussion/comment/490692#Comment_490692

Its me Joshua the poster for this thread.....

i am preaching on What Jesus said about Hell and Why it Still Matters.

The title may give everyone an idea where I am headed "Their Worm Does Not Die"

The third essay in Hell under Fire specifically deals with Jesus' teachings on Hell, however, the writer (Robert W. Yarbrough) comes at it from a strongly anti-Jesus Seminar angle, rather than a general teachings-of-Jesus perspective. It's probably not what you're looking for for the purpose of your sermon. Chapter 10, written by Sinclair Ferguson, gives a pastoral theology on preaching and the subject of Hell. It might be more useful to you since it's a look at biblical theology on the matter.

Good luck!

Matthew C Jones

https://community.logos.com/discussion/comment/490691#Comment_490691

Robert Jeffress (pastor, FBC Dallas) and D. James Kennedy? Top scholars on the subject, I'm sure.
Meanwhile, here's an interesting book worth reading and having in Logos: The Formation of Hell: Death and Retribution in the Ancient and Early Christian Worlds

= "My scholar can beat up your scholar." Seriously, I would rather hear from the Ancient of Days than some modern sociologist.

tom

https://community.logos.com/discussion/comment/490606#Comment_490606

If you guys would cut the negative junk out of the above posts and simply ask for / give reasonable suggestions

My observations is that most are not able to simply comment or suggest without showing their personal opinions on the matter and that often can come across as negative. We all must be careful to present our opinions/convictions in a way that is positive. Thanks for the reminder.

[Y]

Sogol

https://community.logos.com/discussion/comment/490708#Comment_490708

One important Catholic work I'd like to see in Logos is Hans Urs von Balthasar's "Dare We Hope That All Men Be Saved? With a Short Discourse on Hell" (if my memory serves me correctly, I believe that then Cardinal Ratzinger was critical of it).

http://www.amazon.com/Dare-Hope-Saved-Short-Discourse/dp/0898702070

From an Orthodox perspective, there is always Bishop Kallistos Ware's "The Inner Kingdom: Volume 1 of the Collected Works" which includes a similarly titled essay "Dare We Hope For the Salvation of All?: Origen, St. Gregory of Nyssa and St Isacc the Syrian." Granted, this may be oriented more towards the question of universalism, but it nevertheless hits a bit on the topic of hell.

http://www.amazon.com/Inner-Kingdom-Collected-Works/dp/0881412090

NB.Mick

https://community.logos.com/discussion/comment/490578#Comment_490578

Death and Afterlife: A Theological Introduction by Terence Nichols

This is in Vyrso, btw.

MJ. Smith

https://community.logos.com/discussion/comment/490905#Comment_490905

Thanks NB - I rarely check Vyrso except for patristic titles

Milford Charles Murray

https://community.logos.com/discussion/comment/490905#Comment_490905

Death and Afterlife: A Theological Introduction by Terence Nichols

This is in Vyrso, btw.

An absolutely lovely and helpful book that I very much appreciated! *smile*

Psalm 29:11

MJ. Smith

https://community.logos.com/discussion/comment/490907#Comment_490907

You know you need more time when you check the book out on Vyrso only to discover you already own it. More time is obviously a better solution than less resources.[:D]

papa_gowgow

https://community.logos.com/discussion/comment/490913#Comment_490913

You know you need more time when you check the book out on Vyrso only to discover you already own it. More time is obviously a better solution than less resources.

It was a freebie in June last year. God bless Logos & Vyrso for their charitable deeds [H]

JoshInRI

https://community.logos.com/discussion/comment/490521#Comment_490521

Mark thanks for this suggestion. I bought the book but will only use the chapter you recommended for the reasons you suggested. I think the Jesus Seminar people need prayer (enough said).

Mitchell

https://community.logos.com/discussion/comment/490981#Comment_490981

For the sake of balance (and having my own views represented), I'll suggest the following:

Rob Bell's "Love Wins" would probably be a reasonable addition, at least to Vyrso, due to its popularity. Bell isn't a universalist, and the type of universalism he leaves open in his book is (IMHO) too heavily tied to the typically thin American definition of free will, but it's gotten a lot of conversations going.

tom

https://community.logos.com/discussion/comment/490988#Comment_490988

For the sake of balance (and having my own views represented), I'll suggest the following:

Thomas Talbott - The Inescapable Love of God

Gregory MacDonald - The Evangelical Universalist

Robin Parry - Universal Salvation?: The Current Debate

Rob Bell's "Love Wins" would probably be a reasonable addition, at least to Vyrso, due to its popularity. Bell isn't a universalist, and the type of universalism he leaves open in his book is (IMHO) too heavily tied to the typically thin American definition of free will, but it's gotten a lot of conversations going.

[Y]

Ken McGuire

https://community.logos.com/discussion/comment/490991#Comment_490991

And Bonda - The One Purpose of God.

JoshInRI

https://community.logos.com/discussion/comment/490988#Comment_490988

Mitchell thanks for your humorous reply. I read Francis Chan instead.
I am interested in having Christ's views represented in my sermon.

Mitchell

https://community.logos.com/discussion/comment/491318#Comment_491318

Mitchell thanks for your humorous reply. I read Francis Chan instead.
I am interested in having Christ's views represented in my sermon.

It sounds like you read the book whose conclusion you already agree with. I wonder, are you truly seeking Christ's views, or merely looking to bolster your own?

This is not the time nor place to dive into this debate, but my views are 1) rooted in Scripture, which I believe to be the final rule of faith and practice and 2) consistent with historic orthodoxy as attested by the creeds, confession, and church fathers. I'm not absolutely committed to the universalist position, but it seems to require less hermeneutical gymnastics than the alternatives (Calvinism and Arminianism, primarily). I'm always open to a respectful discussion, so if you're interested in talking more please let me know and I'll get you my contact info. I mean this quite sincerely, I would love to hear you out on this if you're up for a civil conversation.

EDIT: Just to avoid confusion, I do believe hell exists, I just don't exclude the possibility (probability even, given the repeated promises of God's total victory) that it will, in the very long term, be empty due to sinners repenting and turning to Christ. If I thought there was no hell at all, your accusation of ignoring Christ's teaching would be entirely appropriate, but a quick reading of any of the book I mentioned would assure you that Evangelical Universalists believe no such thing.

tom

https://community.logos.com/discussion/comment/491480#Comment_491480

it seems to require less hermeneutical gymnastics than the alternatives

[Y]

David Matthew

https://community.logos.com/discussion/comment/491497#Comment_491497

Not the classical view, but I recommend Edward Fudge's The Fire That Consumes.

JoshInRI

https://community.logos.com/discussion/comment/491480#Comment_491480

Mitchell,

(lifting what Jesus said from my sermon below).

Respectfully, What if you are dead wrong, Sir? Can you live with what I've underlined below?

Let’s look at verse 15 first (I underlined for emphasis):

“Woe to you, scribes and Pharisees, hypocrites! For you travel land and sea to win one proselyte, and when he is won, you make him twice as much a son of hell as yourselves. ^{^[1]}

Skip down to verse 29

29 “Woe to you, scribes and Pharisees, hypocrites! Because you build the tombs of the prophets and adorn the monuments of the righteous,

30 and say, ‘If we had lived in the days of our fathers, we would not have been partakers with them in the blood of the prophets.’

31 “Therefore you are witnesses against yourselves that you are sons of those who murdered the prophets.

32 Fill up, then, the measure of your fathers’ guilt.

33 Serpents, brood of vipers! How can you escape the condemnation of hell? ^{^[2]}

Mitchell, would you actually argue with God? I would hate to think of you (and those you convince, lead, or teach) in Hell where your/their worm would not die, where you would rot forever and be separated from God forever.

Are you gnashing your teeth at God, Mitchell?

^{^[1]} The New King James Version (Nashville: Thomas Nelson, 1982), Mt 23:15.

^{^[2]} The New King James Version (Nashville: Thomas Nelson, 1982), Mt 23:29–33.

Rosie Perera

https://community.logos.com/discussion/comment/491636#Comment_491636

Mitchell probably could teach us all a thing or two about Hell because he has the letters "H-E-L-L" (in that order, with no intervening letters) in his name. [:)]

This posts means nothing at all; I just love word play.

MJ. Smith

https://community.logos.com/discussion/comment/491636#Comment_491636

Are you gnashing your teeth at God, Mitchell?

Joshua, I believe you have crossed the line and are now trying to push your theology rather than asking for assistance with Logos. Please remind yourself of the guidelines of the forum and abide by them.

Please abide by the following guidelines as you interact on our forums.

Please keep your discussions focused on Logos Bible Software: our software, products, websites, company, tools, etc.
Please do not discuss or debate biblical, theological, or other controversial topics. Use one of the many web forums intended for these kinds of discussions. ...

Admittedly this is not the first post in the thread to cross the line but ....

Mike Pettit

https://community.logos.com/discussion/comment/491651#Comment_491651

Let this then be our sacred rule, to seek to know nothing concerning it, except what Scripture teaches us: when the Lord closes his holy mouth, let us also stop the way, that we may not go farther.

Calvin, J., & Owen, J. (2010). Commentary on the Epistle of Paul the Apostle to the Romans (354). Bellingham, WA: Logos Bible Software.

Giovanni Baggio

We need more books on the Doctrine of Hell and What Jesus specifically said about it?

I would begin with WHATEVER HAPPENED TO HELL? by John Blanchard.

Why isn't this important book in the Logos collection please?

p.s. (Yes I know about Chan's book, Erasing Hell, thanks and no I am not interested AT ALL with Rob Bell's sad errant bestseller either).

You make me laugh dude, isn't the Bible enough for you to read about hell and what Jesus said about it? Go read it and you might just get what you're looking for it's been there for a little over 2K years [A] aaaah and by the way the Bible is available in Logos and is more important than any other book collection you can get [;)] so important that even Satan thinks it's good to quote it [6]

blessings my little children!

Giovanni

Sogol

https://community.logos.com/discussion/comment/491663#Comment_491663

You make me laugh dude, isn't the Bible enough for you to read about hell and what Jesus said about it? Go read it and you might just get what you're looking for it's been there for a little over 2K years aaaah and by the way the Bible is available in Logos and is more important than any other book collection you can get so important that even Satan thinks it's good to quote it

blessings my little children!

Giovanni

Great point. My entire Logos collection, excluding Bibles, is now up for sale.

Sogol

https://community.logos.com/discussion/comment/491672#Comment_491672

Just kidding, of course. [:)]

Deacon Steve

https://community.logos.com/discussion/comment/491663#Comment_491663

You make me laugh dude, isn't the Bible enough for you ...

I frequently fall short, and at the risk of steering off coarse a little, I always appreciate (and need) instruction ... ACTS 8:26ff

Mitchell

https://community.logos.com/discussion/comment/491636#Comment_491636

Mitchell,

(lifting what Jesus said from my sermon below).

Respectfully, What if you are dead wrong, Sir? Can you live with what I've underlined below?

Let’s look at verse 15 first (I underlined for emphasis):

“Woe to you, scribes and Pharisees, hypocrites! For you travel land and sea to win one proselyte, and when he is won, you make him twice as much a son of hell as yourselves. ^{^[1]}

Skip down to verse 29

29       “Woe to you, scribes and Pharisees, hypocrites! Because you build the tombs of the prophets and adorn the monuments of the righteous,

30       and say, ‘If we had lived in the days of our fathers, we would not have been partakers with them in the blood of the prophets.’

31       “Therefore you are witnesses against yourselves that you are sons of those who murdered the prophets.

32       Fill up, then, the measure of your fathers’ guilt.

33       Serpents, brood of vipers! How can you escape the condemnation of hell? ^{^[2]}

Mitchell, would you actually argue with God? I would hate to think of you (and those you convince, lead, or teach) in Hell where your/their worm would not die, where you would rot forever and be separated from God forever.

Are you gnashing your teeth at God, Mitchell?

^{^[1]} The New King James Version (Nashville: Thomas Nelson, 1982), Mt 23:15.

^{^[2]} The New King James Version (Nashville: Thomas Nelson, 1982), Mt 23:29–33.

I certainly hope I'm not gnashing my teeth at God. My intention is only to interpret Scripture faithfully, including but not limited to the parts you quoted. Again, I do believe in hell, and take it quite seriously, but I think our doctrine of its nature and longevity (neither of which are addressed in the verses you cited) must be interpreted consistently with the promises given in the rest of Scripture.

I would love to respond more specifically, but as others have pointed out we've already passed the boundaries of this forum's purpose. If you're interested in continuing the conversation, send me an email at spamofmitch at gmail dot com (I'll give you my regular email address, but I don't want the spam that comes with putting it on a forum).

JoshInRI

https://community.logos.com/discussion/comment/491771#Comment_491771

I mean this sincerely and not offhandedly....God bless you Mitchell.

I appreciated everyone's thoughtful suggestions in here and the interaction helped me utilize Logos 5.0 to inform my sermon (it was a cinch to find the passages in the Gospels with it - logos4:Search;kind=Bible;q=Hell;match=stem) which went reasonably well. Its only my second sermon and was "topical" but I hope to revisit this subject and do an expositional sermon focused upon one passage in the future instead.

I enjoyed using Logos to locate what Jesus said and intended. Logos use shows us quickly Our Lord did speak on this important topic. I am glad this thread will exist for me/others to return to listing Logos resources for future study and sermons.

Glory to God. Jesus Lead On.[:)]

Edwin Bowden

We need more books on the Doctrine of Hell and What Jesus specifically said about it?

Let me preface the following statement with the fact that I strongly believe in a literal hell. I also believe that some emphasize it more than the apostles did.

If you do a Bible search for "hell" in the book of Acts and Paul's Epistles, you will not find the word used at all.

Ask yourself, if we do not find "hell" used in Paul's writing and the recorded messages in Acts, how much was it emphasized in the NT church?

Evan Boardman

https://community.logos.com/discussion/comment/492636#Comment_492636

The people back then believed in hell, there was no need to teach the doctrine. But how to escape it did need teaching.

Deacon Steve

https://community.logos.com/discussion/comment/492636#Comment_492636

We need more books on the Doctrine of Hell and What Jesus specifically said about it?

Let me preface the following statement with the fact that I strongly believe in a literal hell. I also believe that some emphasize it more than the apostles did.

If you do a Bible search for "hell" in the book of Acts and Paul's Epistles, you will not find the word used at all.

Ask yourself, if we do not find "hell" used in Paul's writing and the recorded messages in Acts, how much was it emphasized in the NT church?

Interesting subject and comment. I'll take your word for it that Paul never ever talk about "hell". Does he talk about life after death? Or what happens after death? Or Sheol? Or anything related? How do I use Logos to do the research?

Mitchell

https://community.logos.com/discussion/comment/492618#Comment_492618

I mean this sincerely and not offhandedly....God bless you Mitchell.

Thank you Joshua. You as well.

Milford Charles Murray

https://community.logos.com/discussion/comment/492660#Comment_492660

We need more books on the Doctrine of Hell and What Jesus specifically said about it?

Let me preface the following statement with the fact that I strongly believe in a literal hell. I also believe that some emphasize it more than the apostles did.

If you do a Bible search for "hell" in the book of Acts and Paul's Epistles, you will not find the word used at all.

Ask yourself, if we do not find "hell" used in Paul's writing and the recorded messages in Acts, how much was it emphasized in the NT church?

Interesting subject and comment. I'll take your word for it that Paul never ever talk about "hell". Does he talk about life after death? Or what happens after death? Or Sheol? Or anything related? How do I use Logos to do the research?

Peace, Steve! *smile*

I for one appreciate the wonderful and unique way that St. Paul talks about life and death in his writings! A lot! Very special.

I'm going to have to think about how to use Logos to do the research ... *smile* Most of my knowledge and understanding of Paul's preaching comes from my mind and heart after years and years of reading The Holy Word!

For example:

To Live Is Christ

Yes, and I will rejoice, ¹⁹for I know that ^fthrough your prayers and ^gthe help of ^hthe Spirit of Jesus Christ this will turn out for my deliverance, ²⁰as it is my eager expectation and hope ⁱthat I will not be at all ashamed, but that with full ^jcourage now as always Christ ^kwill be honored in my body, ^lwhether by life or by death. ²¹For to me ^mto live is Christ, and to die is gain. ²²If I am to live in the flesh, that means fruitful labor for me. Yet which I shall choose I cannot tell. ²³ⁿI am hard pressed between the two. My desire is ^oto depart and ^pbe with Christ, for that is far better

.... and here's another lovely one (There are many, many passages from Paul about life and death!)

37　No, in all these things we are more than ^yconquerors through ^zhim who loved us. ³⁸For I am sure that neither death nor life, nor angels nor rulers, nor things present nor things to come, nor powers, ³⁹nor height nor depth, nor anything else in all creation, will be able to separate us from the love of God in Christ Jesus our Lord.

Deacon Steve

https://community.logos.com/discussion/comment/492636#Comment_492636

Thanks Milford. [:)]

I guess I'm lost on Edwin's comment.

Ask yourself, if we do not find "hell" used in Paul's writing and the recorded messages in Acts, how much was it emphasized in the NT church?

George Somsel

Why are you so interested in Hell? Are you planning a trip? [:)]

I understand that it operates on the Raid Roach Motel principle (the bug killer)—you can check in, but you can't check out. [;)]

tom

https://community.logos.com/discussion/comment/492713#Comment_492713

I understand that it operates on the Raid Roach Motel principle (the bug killer)—you can check in, but you can't check out.

hmmm, I understood that it operated like "Hotel California" where "You can check-out any time you like, But you can never leave!" [;)]

George Somsel

https://community.logos.com/discussion/comment/492764#Comment_492764

I understand that it operates on the Raid Roach Motel principle (the bug killer)—you can check in, but you can't check out.

hmmm, I understood that it operated like "Hotel California" where "You can check-out any time you like, But you can never leave!"

Same principle.

Rosie Perera

https://community.logos.com/discussion/comment/492774#Comment_492774

I understand that it operates on the Raid Roach Motel principle (the bug killer)—you can check in, but you can't check out.

hmmm, I understood that it operated like "Hotel California" where "You can check-out any time you like, But you can never leave!"

Same principle.

Not quite. Your version is missing the pun: "check out" is a euphemism for "die."