4.0b Beta 2 (4.02.3.5022) available

Bradley Grainger (Logos)

4.0b Beta 2 (v4.02.3.5022) is now available for testing; enter "update now" to begin downloading it.

New Features

Ctrl+Shift+W closes all panels
Bible reference input boxes support the specification of a versemap to use when parsing
Right-click a collection title in the Parallel Resources drop-down to edit it
Delete icon changed to red ‘x’ (to distinguish it from the Close icon)

Bug Fixes

Fixed crash importing notes
Fixed crash in Bible Word Study
Fixed crash entering a lemma in Morph Search
“My Content” is only searched when the range is “Entire Library”
Fixed bug that was preventing new non-Bible resources appearing in Morph search results
QSM reference parsing doesn’t require input to be all upper-case
Reduced number of intermediate queries that appear in Search history in “Speed Search” mode
Search Analysis uses abbreviated data type names for column headers
Search results from QSM display as right-to-left
Fixed crash in Logos4Setup.exe (that could be worked around by deleting the “Install” folder)

Known Issues

Basic Search doesn’t search non-Bibles in collections
Favorites cannot be dropped into folders
The versemap that was used for parsing may not be shown
Left/Right arrows don’t use currently-selected parallel resource set
The “default” parallel resource set isn’t shown in the drop-down
Parallel Resource Sets are not supported for headwords

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Terry Poperszky

Installed no problem

BWS crash fixed

Bradley, was the BWS crash on the lemma search of δουλος supposed to be fixed? While the normal BWS crash is fixed, it still crashes on that specific search.

Rich DeRuiter

New Features

Ctrl+Shift+W closes all panels

Bible reference input boxes support the specification of a versemap to use when parsing

Right-click a collection title in the Parallel Resources drop-down to edit it

Delete icon changed to red ‘x’ (to distinguish it from the Close icon)

Installed, no problems.

These appear to work as designed. The red 'x' appears in Note files, but not in the Guide sections. Correct?

Cool new features!

BWS works for me too, and seems to be faster than before.

Todd Phillips

Known Issues

Basic Search doesn’t search non-Bibles in collections

The versemap that was used for parsing may not be shown

Left/Right arrows don’t use currently-selected parallel resource set

The “default” parallel resource set isn’t shown in the drop-down

Parallel Resource Sets are not supported for headwords

Searching over a collection returns no results (to be fixed in beta3)

Brent Daniel

The BWS crash on the lemma search of δουλος still exists in 4.0b beta 2.

Lynden O. Williams

4.0b Beta 2 (v4.02.3.5022) is now available for testing; enter "update now" to begin downloading it.

Opened up the beta and it auto updated. Did not need to enter anything in the update box.

Bradley Grainger (Logos)

The BWS crash on the lemma search of δουλος still exists in 4.0b beta 2.

We're aware of this issue; it will probably be fixed (for 4.0a and 4.0b) through updated Lemma List and Grammatical Relationship resources; more details will be posted the updated resources are ready.

Rosie Perera

Bible reference input boxes support the specification of a versemap to use when parsing

What is this? How do you do it? What's the syntax?

Rosie Perera

I just noticed (I think it's new in Beta 2) that the Close All icon has changed from this:

to this:

I liked the old one better. Why the change? Is there a time coming soon when we'll be able to customize all our icons on the shortcut bar?

Bohuslav Wojnar

I liked the old one better. Why the change? Is there a time coming soon when we'll be able to customize all our icons on the shortcut bar?

Rosie, the icon was not specific for the close all command. It was just generic icon for any command. It might be they started to designate a specific icons to some commands and that's the change you see.

EDIT: no, I just noticed it is not a specific icon. It is just a new generic icon for all commands.

Rosie Perera

I liked the old one better. Why the change? Is there a time coming soon when we'll be able to customize all our icons on the shortcut bar?

Rosie, the icon was not specific for the close all command. It was just generic icon for any command. It might be they started to designate a specific icons to some commands and that's the change you see.

EDIT: no, I just noticed it is not a specific icon. It is just a new generic icon for all commands.

I still would love to be able to choose from an icon libary (to which I can add my own custom icons) for icons on the shortcut menu. I cannot distinguish between the different commands or Guides or bookmarks by looking at the icons currently. I know you can hover your mouse over them to see more detail in a popup bubble (and it seems they've now added preview windows for when you hover over layout shortcuts), but it would be really nice not to have to go hovering over a dozen icons to find the one I want. It's not really a "Shortcut" bar, is it, if I have to examine everything to pick what I want. Should be an almost mindless choice. Visual distinction (and/or editable textual labels) is a must.

Icarus38376

It seems that we have lost the ability to nest folders in "Favorites" or even the ability to add items such as clippings and notes to a folder.

Rosie Perera

It seems that we have lost the ability to nest folders in "Favorites" or even the ability to add items such as clippings and notes to a folder.

Yikes! I confirmed that this is broken for me too, in 4.0b Beta 2. My nested folders that I already had are intact, but I can't create any new ones.

Todd Phillips

It seems that we have lost the ability to nest folders in "Favorites" or even the ability to add items such as clippings and notes to a folder.

Yikes! I confirmed that this is broken for me too, in 4.0b Beta 2. My nested folders that I already had are intact, but I can't create any new ones.

Yep, folders are broken in favorites. I think the favorites window needs work anyway: I should be able to create a link in a folder without having to drag it there after the fact.

Icarus38376

I actually found this bug in 4.0b Beta 1, but by the time I noticed it, Beta 2 was available.

Anonymous

I started comparing my imported notes with the original files and found some serious problems. Some notes came in in the wrong order. Others aren't there at all. Also in the scroll bar won't go all the way down to the bottom of it's range. No errors were reported during the import.

Scott Alexander

Some notes came in in the wrong order.

The note import in Logos 4 is not currently order preserving. The notes in Logos 4 are ordered as if you had right clicked -> Add Note each note. We will fix this for a future release.

Others aren't there at all.

Please attach the LDLS 3 note file and if possible provide more information about what exactly is missing.

Also in the scroll bar won't go all the way down to the bottom of it's range.

This is currently by design. We're displaying the notes in a different kind of list to support the large number of notes some user submitted documents had.

No errors were reported during the import.

Any errors occurring during import will be in the log file. http://wiki.logos.com/Diagnostic_Logging

Bradley Grainger (Logos)

Bible reference input boxes support the specification of a versemap to use when parsing

What is this? How do you do it? What's the syntax?

See http://community.logos.com/forums/t/8965.aspx

Bradley Grainger (Logos)

Is there a time coming soon when we'll be able to customize all our icons on the shortcut bar?

Yes: http://community.logos.com/forums/p/4042/31286.aspx#31286

Scott Alexander

We will fix this for a future release.

Note importing will be order preserving in the next beta.

Debra W Bouey

B2 Update fine, no crashes ... so far. Off to start importing Notes and Highlighting now.

Debra

Darren Paul Wright

I just noticed (I think it's new in Beta 2) that the Close All icon has changed from this:

to this:

I liked the old one better. Why the change? Is there a time coming soon when we'll be able to customize all our icons on the shortcut bar?

This was the last bitmap icon that carried over from early in development. If you were in the private beta for 4.0 you may remember a wrench icon floating around before I was able to replace it. This is another one like the wrench.

This is just a replacement for the default command icon, more specific command icons should come in a future release, but I don't know when.

Icarus38376

It seems that we have lost the ability to nest folders in "Favorites" or even the ability to add items such as clippings and notes to a folder.

Yikes! I confirmed that this is broken for me too, in 4.0b Beta 2. My nested folders that I already had are intact, but I can't create any new ones.

Yep, folders are broken in favorites. I think the favorites window needs work anyway: I should be able to create a link in a folder without having to drag it there after the fact.

Whoops, this seems to be a known issue see

Known Issues: "Favorites cannot be dropped into folders"

Francis

I don't know if it is a bug or limited functionality but when I click on hits from "My Content" after a search, it simply opens the file (eg, a note file) but does not display the entry where the hit is found. For instance, I was looking for a note I had made on the colour white in my Bible notes. Indeed Bible Notes showed under the My Content results, but the click led me to my entry on Genesis 1:1. I had to CTRL-F "White" in order to find the actual entry (on Leviticus 14:4). What happened to the red circle?

Anthony Etienne

4.0b Beta 2 (v4.02.3.5022) is now available for testing; enter "update now" to begin downloading it.

Opened up the beta and it auto updated. Did not need to enter anything in the update box.

Same here launched L4 and it immediately auto updated, performance seems impressive considering I'm running it in vmware 6.x on top of windows 7 64bit. Didn't want to run it on the host OS along with my 4.0a, on that note I also run Libronix 3.0 in another VM, on top of the host that my 4.0a is installed on. Allows for a lot ov versatility.

Ebbe Andréasson

I imported "all" and it all worked fine but then all my notes was checked and visible in every resource. I have to uncheck notefile for notefile in every resource to get rid of it. I realise this will take a lot of time. Then I deleted all imported notes.

I want to import my notes "unchecked". Then I can choose if I want it to be visible in my resources. In v3 if I uncheck a note it "disapears" in every resource. I think thats an better way of working.

Maybe there should be an option to choose if check/uncheck should work in all resources or just in the one checking in but I don't know.

Kevin Becker

I imported "all" and it all worked fine but then all my notes was checked and visible in every resource. I have to uncheck notefile for notefile in every resource to get rid of it. I realise this will take a lot of time. Then I deleted all imported notes.

I want to import my notes "unchecked". Then I can choose if I want it to be visible in my resources. In v3 if I uncheck a note it "disapears" in every resource. I think thats an better way of working.

Maybe there should be an option to choose if check/uncheck should work in all resources or just in the one checking in but I don't know.

I believe if you right click on the specific visual filter you can tell Logos to not show it in any resource.

Dewayne Davis

Added Parallel Resource drop-down menu in resource toolbar

Does this not include things like the EDNT and BDAG? I typically refer to these two and the WSDNT as my go to spots. I would love to be able to use the association to move from one to the other. For now I just have them promoted and showing up in the WbW in the PG.

Added “Speed search” to Bible search, which is now the default

Is this working as expected? It is very sluggish on my machine and
stops at every letter. There is nothing remotely speedy about it on my
machine. Indexing is completed and I am on Beta two.

Added Bibles-only search index

Perhaps this is related to my second comment, but is this working yet?

I find it faster to do a regular search than a speed search. The
only difference I see is you don't hit enter with the speed search.

Resources support navigating by data type levels, highlighting, and search results

This
was very helpful. I wanted to make this suggestion. But I never took
the time. My layout has a Word by Word open all the time and this will
greatly improve its effectiveness. One suggestion I have thought about
is that it follow according to the mouse click suggestion, and not the
cursor location? If I click a few verses down in the text, the input
box for the text immediately updates. However, the input for the PG
containing the WbW does not change. I will explain. If I have ESV at
verse 1, then click at verse 7, the input box updates. At this point it
would be nice to have the PG that is linked update as well. If at this
point I select the arrow for next verse, the ESV moves to verse 8 and
the PG updates. If the input box gained focus when I mouse click, I
think I could possibly hit enter and force the PG to adjust. The work
around at this point seems to be to click one verse short of what I
want to move to and then click next verse. Interestingly, there was one
single time that I clicked on a spot a few verses down and the PG
jumped to it. I don't know what circumstances allowed it to happen. But
it did it. Strange...

Francis

There seems to be a bug with searches by "mytag:" When I use one of these the search comes up with no result. I searched my resources on Jesus for "Jesus" and it came up with no result. I tried another collection and searched for "God" with the same result. I rebuilt the index just in case but it has not solved the problem.

Have others experienced this problem in 4.0b b2?

Melissa Snyder

There seems to be a bug with searches by "mytag:" When I use one of these the search comes up with no result. I searched my resources on Jesus for "Jesus" and it came up with no result. I tried another collection and searched for "God" with the same result. I rebuilt the index just in case but it has not solved the problem.

Have others experienced this problem in 4.0b b2?

Francis,

I can reproduce this in 4.0b b2 and will report it.

Update: This should be fixed in 4.0b Beta 3.

Thanks,
Melissa

Dewayne Davis

Resources support navigating by data type levels, highlighting, and search results

This
was very helpful. I wanted to make this suggestion. But I never took
the time. My layout has a Word by Word open all the time and this will
greatly improve its effectiveness. One suggestion I have thought about
is that it follow according to the mouse click suggestion, and not the
cursor location? If I click a few verses down in the text, the input
box for the text immediately updates. However, the input for the PG
containing the WbW does not change. I will explain. If I have ESV at
verse 1, then click at verse 7, the input box updates. At this point it
would be nice to have the PG that is linked update as well. If at this
point I select the arrow for next verse, the ESV moves to verse 8 and
the PG updates. If the input box gained focus when I mouse click, I
think I could possibly hit enter and force the PG to adjust. The work
around at this point seems to be to click one verse short of what I
want to move to and then click next verse. Interestingly, there was one
single time that I clicked on a spot a few verses down and the PG
jumped to it. I don't know what circumstances allowed it to happen. But
it did it. Strange...

I have continued to work with this and found the following:

Right clicking somewhere in a verse most of the time causes the PG to update.

Moving back from a search window after doing a search causes the PG to update to where you clicked.

Basically anything that takes the focus allows the PG to automatically refresh to whatever you select when you return to the text.

Hitting Tab and Enter will cause the PG to update.

And the winning solution was so simple it is ridiculous. Double clicking on the verse number causes the PG to update. All I can say is duh! I should have tried that first.

Dewayne Davis

Added Bibles-only search index

Perhaps this is related to my second comment, but is this working yet?

I find it faster to do a regular search than a speed search. The
only difference I see is you don't hit enter with the speed search.

I think I have deducted that the speed search is using a different index than the regular search. There are different lists of word suggestions showing up.

It also seems that the more that you use it, the faster it gets. Maybe there is some learned indexing going on?

In spite of my questions, I am glad to see it coming back. Hopefully soon it will be instantaneous.

Dewayne Davis

Double clicking on the verse number causes the PG to update.

What would be cool would be for double clicking a verse to cause the PG to open or move to that verse without using the linking. Linking slows down scrolling through the text considerably.

josh s blake

L4b beta 2 keeps crashing on me, especially when I just do a passage search from the home page. Not sure what this is about...thought you should know. I know it's beta and has problems, just thought you'd like to know this one. have windows 7 ult. and 4 gig ram and 1.87 duel processor on a laptop. thanks.

Bruce Lundquist

I've run the update to 4.0b Beta 2 (v4.02.3.5022). All went well. Then came the long awaited imports. I ran "Import All." It crashed. I've attached the log file. I the opened my most favorite bible and my Highlights are all there. So are my favorites. THANK YOU! Blessings to you all!

But here's the problem: Notes Imports. They just won't import. They are the problem. Please note that I'm running Windows 7. I've rebooted. Tried again. Just won't work. Please help.

Thanks

5554.Logos4.log

Rich DeRuiter

But here's the problem: Notes Imports. They just won't import. They are the problem. Please note that I'm running Windows 7. I've rebooted. Tried again. Just won't work. Please help.

Did you prepare your notes in L3 with the new button download that Bradley pointed us to, before attempting the import? Check out the link provided in his post.

Friedrich

But here's the problem: Notes Imports. They just won't import. They are the problem. Please note that I'm running Windows 7. I've rebooted. Tried again. Just won't work. Please help.

Did you prepare your notes in L3 with the new button download that Bradley pointed us to, before attempting the import? Check out the link provided in his post.

I just did "import notes" on my XP running laptop this morning and it worked without some little button download. I didn't even see that note from Bradley. And now all the others have synced and show my old notes, too. Terrific!!

Friedrich

But here's the problem: Notes Imports. They just won't import. They are the problem. Please note that I'm running Windows 7. I've rebooted. Tried again. Just won't work. Please help.

Did you prepare your notes in L3 with the new button download that Bradley pointed us to, before attempting the import? Check out the link provided in his post.

Bruce Lundquist

Thanks Richard. I followed Bradley's advice and prepared my notes in L3. After preparing the notes I get the popup saying "All annotations documents were updated successfully." I then opened L4 and did the Import All command. It works a while, but finally L4 crashes. I still don't have the Notes. I've included the log file again since it is done after preparing L3. I hope someone can help. Thanks.

5584.Logos4.log

Bruce Junkermann

“My Content” is only searched when the range is “Entire Library”

Does this address when you run the passage guide? My Content appears to not be searched when I run a PG. Not sure if it's just my computer or a bug yet to be fixed. Clarification: My PG finds Guides I've saved but not notes I've created.

My "my content" is searched using the search window and finding my notes but not when I use the PG.

Scott Alexander

I still don't have the Notes. I've included the log file again since it is done after preparing L3.

Bruce,

Thanks for posting the log file. We'll get a fix for that in Beta 3.

Scott

SteveF

Thanks Richard. I followed Bradley's advice and prepared my notes in L3. After preparing the notes I get the popup saying "All annotations documents were updated successfully." I then opened L4 and did the Import All command. It works a while, but finally L4 crashes. I still don't have the Notes. I've included the log file again since it is done after preparing L3. I hope someone can help. Thanks.

Bruce, while you wait for the Logos "fix" mentioned by Scoot, you might try this: Just type in Import Notes rather than Import All.

I too, did "Import All" and received "HIghlighting" and "Favorites". BUT I had to do the separate "Note" import to bget Notes etc.

(Mine also crashed that first time, even thought the two sets of files came in properly.)

Regards

Steve

Bradley Grainger (Logos)

Does this address when you run the passage guide? My Content appears to not be searched when I run a PG. Not sure if it's just my computer or a bug yet to be fixed. Clarification: My PG finds Guides I've saved but not notes I've created.

My "my content" is searched using the search window and finding my notes but not when I use the PG.

I think the Passage Guide currently only finds other guides; this is an issue we're working on.