Linux version of Logos Bible Software
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Is anyone else getting redirected to page 1 when trying to go to page 91?
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It wasn't letting me post when I had my VPN turned on, and I'm not sure if those posts will make it through, but here is what I've got Bill
Sure thing!
1. locate the Logos.exe file mine was located here~/LogosBible10/data/wine64_bottle/drive_c/users/[USER_NAME]/AppData/Local/Logos/
2. Open Steam and in the bottom left there is a button that says "Add a Game" click the plus button there
3. Click "Add a Non-Steam game..."
4. On the popup window, click "Browse" on the bottom left
5. Navigate to the folder in step 1 containing Logos.exe
6. Select Logos.exe and click "Open"
7. Make sure compatibility settings are enabled on Steam.
a. To enable, click "Steam" on the top left menu
b. Click "Settings"
c. Select Compatibility from the List
d. Enable Steamplay for Supported Titles & For all other Titles (I don't remember if this will require restarting steam or not)
e. Run other Titles with: Proton 9.03 (This will require restarting Steam)
8. At the Steam Library page, right click on "Logos.exe" and select properties
9. Select Compatibility from List and check "Force use of a specific..." (You can use this to swap which Proton version you are using if one doesn't work for ya)
10. Close the pop-up and return to Steam Library and click Logos.exe and hit "Play" on the main screen.
It did force me to redownload libraries again, so when you do the first install with the python installer I would suggest selecting minimum so it doesn't take up as much room. Thanks for the tip about the GPU support. I'm on a Lenovo Legion Laptop, but I will mess with some of the settings in steam to see if I can get rid of the boxes, and if I can I will update these instructions
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Taylor,
I did use the python installer, and it let me install Logos and run it twice, but it hasn't worked to start it since them from the Start Menu, from the Control Panel, or from going to the .exe and trying to force it to start.
It is working through Steam though. I will see if there is a way to change the renderer, I've not attempted it before, but I'm game
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My sincere apologies, I will keep my VPN off when I come to post.
Taylor,
I did mess with the steam settings and tried forcing vulkan and running it with nvidia, but the boxes were still there, and I tried running Logos again, but I can't get it to run with the control panel or using the Logos link in the menu.1 -
Can you either join us in Telegram or Matrix?
If not, can you provide the logs on running?
Is the installer up-to-date?
Can you try setting the renderer to GDI?
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Taylor said:
Can you either join us in Telegram or Matrix?
If not, can you provide the logs on running?
Is the installer up-to-date?
Can you try setting the renderer to GDI?
Is the only way to join Telegram with a phone number? I tried setting it up on my computer, but it didn't work. I will look into Matrix tonight.
I got my installer from github (my distro uses fish instead of bash would it be worthwhile to try running it bash instead?)I went to the Logos10Bible Folder and ran the "LogosLinuxInstaller"
It pulled up the menu, and then I selected Run Logos and it dumped me back to the terminalHere is the output
raceback (most recent call last):
File "main.py", line 486, in <module>
File "main.py", line 466, in main
File "main.py", line 403, in run
File "main.py", line 318, in run_control_panel
File "main.py", line 303, in run_control_panel
File "curses/__init__.py", line 94, in wrapper
File "tui_app.py", line 1141, in control_panel_app
File "tui_app.py", line 345, in run
File "tui_app.py", line 309, in display
File "tui_app.py", line 417, in choice_processor
File "tui_app.py", line 447, in main_menu_select
File "logos.py", line 84, in start
File "wine.py", line 161, in check_wine_rules
TypeError: cannot unpack non-iterable bool object
[PYI-341144:ERROR] Failed to execute script 'main' due to unhandled exception!I then ran DIALOG=tk ./LogosLinuxInstaller
It immediately produced this output
/bin/sh: symbol lookup error: /bin/sh: undefined symbol: rl_trim_arg_from_keyseq
2024-10-17 13:59:56 ERROR: Error occurred in run_command() while executing "['/home/[user]/LogosBible10/data/bin/wine64', 'reg', 'query', 'HKC
U\\Software\\Logos4\\Logging', '/v', 'Enabled']": Command '['/home/[user]/LogosBible10/data/bin/wine64', 'reg', 'query', 'HKCU\\Software\\Logo
s4\\Logging', '/v', 'Enabled']' returned non-zero exit status 127.
2024-10-17 13:59:56 WARNING: Failed to get registry value: HKCU\Software\Logos4\Logging\Enabledafter clicking Run Logos, it produced this error
Exception in thread <bound method LogosManager.start of <logos.LogosManager object at 0x7c6efb62a4e0>>:
Traceback (most recent call last):
File "threading.py", line 1075, in _bootstrap_inner
File "threading.py", line 1012, in run
File "logos.py", line 84, in start
File "wine.py", line 161, in check_wine_rules
TypeError: cannot unpack non-iterable bool object
I tried messing with winetricks to get it to use gdi, but it gave me some weird issues and I will try and diagnosis it tonight.0 -
Does Logos 2024 October new release work on Linux - yes!
The usual concerns apply:
- not supported
- some menu items require a double click
- printing can be a challenge
- media playback - use website instead
- voice read aloud - no
All the new AI features - work for me!
גַּם־חֹשֶׁךְ֮ לֹֽא־יַחְשִׁ֪יךְ מִ֫מֶּ֥ךָ וְ֭לַיְלָה כַּיּ֣וֹם יָאִ֑יר כַּ֝חֲשֵׁיכָ֗ה כָּאוֹרָֽה
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What's the name/How do you join the Telegram (and Matrix) groups?
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"All this said, I do like Linux and have used it extensively. My favourite distro is SUSE, but have many friends that swear by the Debian based ubuntu. If Windows 7 turns out to be another bomb, I kind of expect that we will see more users defect to Mac and Linux, and if that happens, the market share of Linux may get on the radar of the Logos business plan." (End Quote)
Having scanned several of the comments, I've noticed two have mentioned Windows 7. Why is this when Windows 11 is the newest version of Windows?
MSI Pulse GL76-12UGK Intel Core i7-12700H, RTX3070, 16GB RAM, 1TB SSD, Windows 11 Home
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Remember that the earliest post in this thread is from 2009.
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Kelly Smith said:
Is the only way to join Telegram with a phone number? I tried setting it up on my computer, but it didn't work. I will look into Matrix tonight.
Unsure, but Matrix doesn't.
Kelly Smith said:I got my installer from github (my distro uses fish instead of bash would it be worthwhile to try running it bash instead?)
We shouldn't be utilizing anything that is shell specific, to my knowledge. We even package Python ourselves so as to avoid as many issues as possible.
Kelly Smith said:/bin/sh: symbol lookup error: /bin/sh: undefined symbol: rl_trim_arg_from_keyseq
To my knowledge this is a packaging/distro issue—unsure on this one.
Kelly Smith said:[PYI-341144:ERROR] Failed to execute script 'main' due to unhandled exception!
Is this running 4.0.0 beta 1 or 2?
Kelly Smith said:2024-10-17 13:59:56 WARNING: Failed to get registry value: HKCU\Software\Logos4\Logging\Enabled
Same on this one. What version are you running?
Kelly Smith said:TypeError: cannot unpack non-iterable bool object
This makes me think you are on beta 1. I have not yet seen this issue. We have been working on some more bug fixes following beta 1, but as mentioned, I haven't seen this issue immediately on running. I might need to see your config to know what is happening.
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Trying to do a fresh install using the binary installer on the github page and this is the result so far
[code]DIALOG=tk ./oudedetai
Traceback (most recent call last):
File "run_app.py", line 14, in <module>
File "ou_dedetai/main.py", line 465, in main
File "ou_dedetai/main.py", line 402, in run
File "ou_dedetai/main.py", line 299, in run_control_panel
File "ou_dedetai/gui_app.py", line 917, in control_panel_app
File "ou_dedetai/gui_app.py", line 81, in __init__
File "tkinter/__init__.py", line 4162, in __init__
File "tkinter/__init__.py", line 4109, in __init__
_tkinter.TclError: couldn't open "/tmp/_MEIXnlAc0/ou_dedetai/img/icon.png": no such file or directory
[PYI-65868:ERROR] Failed to execute script 'run_app' due to unhandled exception![/code]
System is Debian 12. If you need any information I'm happy to supply it.EDIT: Actually what would be great is a link to the msi installer file if anyone knows where the latest is located.
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I think I have finally fixed my screen rendering glitch on my workhorse laptop. I followed, for the umpteenth time, the instructions here https://support.codeweavers.com/2-common-actions/linux-editing-bottle-registry-keys?from_search=163304770 gdi is the renderer that it has started to work with. I am wondering if there has been a bug in one of the Debian packages libmesa packages. I will try my other machines early next week and see how they go.
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Finally got Logos 37.1 working on my Linux Mint setup! Can't believe it... I used this script https://github.com/FaithLife-Community/LogosLinuxInstaller and after downloading and indexing, it's working so far. I do notice decent amount of sluggishness at times, but not sure if I should be expecting that given my machine is 16 cores, 64GB RAM and two RTX 3090s? I tried running with and without dedicated GPU and still feels sluggish at times.
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Sam R. said:
Finally got Logos 37.1 working on my Linux Mint setup! Can't believe it... I used this script https://github.com/FaithLife-Community/LogosLinuxInstaller and after downloading and indexing, it's working so far. I do notice decent amount of sluggishness at times, but not sure if I should be expecting that given my machine is 16 cores, 64GB RAM and two RTX 3090s? I tried running with and without dedicated GPU and still feels sluggish at times.
You could try changing your graphics rendering to Vulkan to see if that improves things at all.
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The most reliable way to answer this question is to compare it to how it runs on a mac or windows environment. Logos is doing quite a lot of database work and internet stuff. Is it any slower on Linux? Not in my experience.
גַּם־חֹשֶׁךְ֮ לֹֽא־יַחְשִׁ֪יךְ מִ֫מֶּ֥ךָ וְ֭לַיְלָה כַּיּ֣וֹם יָאִ֑יר כַּ֝חֲשֵׁיכָ֗ה כָּאוֹרָֽה
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Hi John! So in my personal experience on the windows side, I pretty much notice almost no lag/sluggishness, and I have hardware acceleration enabled on both. From opening existing Workflows, to books, scrolling through the Bible, typing out notes, all virtually no lag. On the Linux side it's definitely not the case. I don't have any indexing going on either since it's all downloaded and indexed. Notes typing is especially laggy as it syncs, which doesn't exist for me on the windows end as mentioned.
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Packages that are designed for Windows, which Logos is, will always work more efficiently on Windows. WINE (and by extension CrossOver which is a more refined WINE) is a compatibility layer which often requires tinkering to get it to work well.
Programs that are true cross platform, e.g. Firefox, work so much better on Linux simply because Linux is much more efficient at using resources.
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I kind of figured that was the case. I'll have the checkout CrossOevr.. Nonetheless, I'm happy it's working!
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I am working on a CrossTie (an installation recipe) for CrossOver but there are a few requirements before they will accept it. When I have it done, hopefully this week, I will post here to let people know it is available.
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Awesome, looking forward to it! Thank you for that
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Taylor said:
Unsure, but Matrix doesn't.
I will look into it. I'm also on discord if we have a community there.
Taylor said:We shouldn't be utilizing anything that is shell specific, to my knowledge. We even package Python ourselves so as to avoid as many issues as possible.
Kk
Taylor said:To my knowledge this is a packaging/distro issue—unsure on this one.
Alright
Taylor said:Is this running 4.0.0 beta 1 or 2?
Taylor said:Same on this one. What version are you running?
I downloaded Beta 3 this morning. I was using the DIALOG=tk option and the installer crashed after clicking update to beta 3. However, when I opened it again, it was now in Beta 3. So success? If it doesn't work I can get ya my config. I'm trying it with version 37 as I saw the guy earlier that said his version was working. If it doesn't cooperate I will drop back to 29.Taylor said:This makes me think you are on beta 1. I have not yet seen this issue. We have been working on some more bug fixes following beta 1, but as mentioned, I haven't seen this issue immediately on running. I might need to see your config to know what is happening.
I cannot thank you enough for all the work you are putting in on this. It is greatly appreciated!0 -
You should be able to run TK by double click rather than ENV var. I was wondering about version as that gives me a starting point for debug. (i.e., is this an old issue or a new one?) We have found some errors in beta 3 we are working to resolve. beta 4 should resolve a lot of the issues we are seeing.
We found an issue in the ICU files that was causing Logos to error. We compiled our own version after stripping out the offending locales and the crash has gone away, but we introduced some regressions into our own installer.
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Actually this isn't the case anymore. There are quite a number of apps that work better on wine / proton / crossover. Some games achieve higher frame rates for example. It's becoming quite mature code, often more modern etc.Michael said:Packages that are designed for Windows, which Logos is, will always work more efficiently on Windows. WINE (and by extension CrossOver which is a more refined WINE) is a compatibility layer which often requires tinkering to get it to work well.
Programs that are true cross platform, e.g. Firefox, work so much better on Linux simply because Linux is much more efficient at using resources.
גַּם־חֹשֶׁךְ֮ לֹֽא־יַחְשִׁ֪יךְ מִ֫מֶּ֥ךָ וְ֭לַיְלָה כַּיּ֣וֹם יָאִ֑יר כַּ֝חֲשֵׁיכָ֗ה כָּאוֹרָֽה
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Anyone had success installing and running Logos with Crossover? Trying it out via trial period and so far keeps failing
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Sam R. said:
Anyone had success installing and running Logos with Crossover? Trying it out via trial period and so far keeps failing
Yes, me.
If you haven't got the ICU (dll) package from the github page by this group it will not work.
The steps you need to take for it to work are:
1. Create an empty Windows 10 or 11 bottle.
2. Download and install the ICU package and place the dll files in the correct directory.
3. Install Logos or Verbum.
I am waiting for my approval to create a CrossTie which will include all this so it is a 1 step (for us) installation because CrossOver will do all the work for us. The above steps are what the CrossTie will do for us.
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Here's a screenshot of the application to list the current version of Logos/Verbum onto CrossOver's compatibility list.
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Thanks for the screenshots. Looking forward having it run on Crossover. Still trying to figure out where to put the new dll file I downloaded
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I got the latest version of Logos (37.1) to run on Crossover. Much smoother, for the most part, than the github script I tried. I do notice some artifacts (black flashing/flickering border) when clicking on menus like guides, layouts, etc. but for the most part, scrolling and normal use, seem ok.
When I closed it down, I did get a WINE debug window telling me that Logos crashed and needs to close down. Opened Logos again and closed it with no errors this time.
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Sorry Sam I didn't see your previous reply.
Follow the instructions here to fix that screen glitch. https://support.codeweavers.com/2-common-actions/linux-editing-bottle-registry-keys?from_search=163304770 I set mine to gdi but it is a process of test and see.Sam R. said:I got the latest version of Logos (37.1) to run on Crossover. Much smoother, for the most part, than the github script I tried. I do notice some artifacts (black flashing/flickering border) when clicking on menus like guides, layouts, etc. but for the most part, scrolling and normal use, seem ok.
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No worries Michael! Looks like GDI is the way to go for me also; tried vulkan but it was a little sluggish. Thanks for the help/guidance!
now I just need to figure out how to remove the version of the app that I installed with the github script to free up disk space.
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If you have CrossOver and WINE installed just uninstall WINE. CrossOver installs into is own folders (/home/yourusername/.cxoffice) and WINE installs in its own folders. If you uninstall WINE make sure you do a complete removal in your package manager and it should remove all the WINE folders.
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Thanks Michael. I do not have Wine installed, only Bottles and Crossover. However I did find the directory of where the other logos instance was installed via the github script and just deleted that whole folder, about 22GB which looked right
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That's odd, I thought the script checked for WINE and if it wasn't installed it would install it for you. Thanks for clearing that up.
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I'm trying to install Logos using Crossover. The bottle and all the frameworks install fine, but when it comes to install the application, I'm getting a "Logos Bible Study requires Windows to be fully updated. Please install system updates." error.
Do you know what it might be missing?
Update:
It looks like the default 'Logos Bible Software X' installer installs into a Windows 7 bottle. I was able to make more progress by installing into a Windows 11 bottle. It still failed with the same error, but later in the process.
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David Drew said:
I'm trying to install Logos using Crossover. The bottle and all the frameworks install fine, but when it comes to install the application, I'm getting a "Logos Bible Study requires Windows to be fully updated. Please install system updates." error.
Do you know what it might be missing?
Yes, download and unpack this into the appropriate directory in your bottle.
https://github.com/FaithLife-Community/icu/releases/tag/72.1-custom%2B4
That Logos install is old and from 2014 if my memory is correct. If you want Logos today follow the suggestion I made above and then install Logos into that bottle. If you can wait I am waiting for approval from Codeweavers (makers of CrossOver) so I can create a CrossTie which will do 99% of what needs to be done to get Logos running on your PC. You may notice a couple of screenshots in previous comments regarding this.David Drew said:Update:
It looks like the default 'Logos Bible Software X' installer installs into a Windows 7 bottle. I was able to make more progress by installing into a Windows 11 bottle. It still failed with the same error, but later in the process.
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Ahh, thanks for this. I thought that the 'LBS X` crosstie was yours.
Worked great once I followed your instructions above.
Thanks again!
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How can I join the Telegram or Matrix?
I installed Logos using the beta 4 binary, and I'm currently stuck on the step of downloading the library. When I choose "Run Logos" on the TUI, it opens the page where I can choose to download the whole library or part of it. And there's a progress bar that was stuck on 10% for a while and now on 20% (not sure what I did to let it make progress). But when I choose to download the whole library, the window disappears and the TUI goes from saying "Stop Logos" back to saying "Run Logos." I tried leaving it in this state overnight to see if anything was running in the background, but it didn't work. How do I let it download the rest of the library?
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Will the steps above also work for a Verbum user? Thanks! This is my last step to having my Linux laptop with everything I’d need.
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Until someone still active in the Linux installs responds - I can say that I never had an issue installing Verbum as a test when I was active in the Linux work.
Logos 10 - OpenSuse Tumbleweed, Windows 11, Android 16 & Android 14
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@John Goodman or @Taylor may have insight to your question
Logos 10 - OpenSuse Tumbleweed, Windows 11, Android 16 & Android 14
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I don't have an active verbum subscription to test it. Verbum 10 worked fine.
גַּם־חֹשֶׁךְ֮ לֹֽא־יַחְשִׁ֪יךְ מִ֫מֶּ֥ךָ וְ֭לַיְלָה כַּיּ֣וֹם יָאִ֑יר כַּ֝חֲשֵׁיכָ֗ה כָּאוֹרָֽה
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I'm following all the steps in the last few pages but I have some questions.
- Where is the Logos install coming from? Do I use the one in Crossover? Is there one to get off the Logos site? When I try to download the setup file it tells me I'm not compatible.
- What is the matrix or Telegram group names? I tried searching Matrix but don't know what I'm looking for. I have Telegram but never used it much.
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If they were able to get the web app to work similar to the desktop app, then making a native Linux version for download wouldn't that much more difficult in my uneducated thoughts. If you built a downloadable app that was based on Firefox or another open source web browser where it would be able to link to a folder or URL depending on interet connection. If this were how they developed it...then that download could be THE future of the desktop app. Again I am not educated in the programing aspect of these things but I would think an open source web browser shell could be a viable option, as long as there was an ability to link to offline locations of your library.
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If you are following all the steps in the last few pages you are mixing installs.
If you are using Linux to get the exe file you will need to change the browser to show it is a Windows browser not a Linux browser.
For everything else you have 2 options:
- use the script supplied in the github page and it will (should?) do everything for you.
- install CrossOver, create an empty Windows 10 or 11 bottle, download the dll package from the github page and put it in the empty CrossOver Windows 10 or 11 bottle, install Logos into the empty Windows 10 or 11 bottle.
I am waiting for Codeweavers (who make CrossOver) to approve Logos/Verbum. Once that is done I can create a CrossTie which should do everything for you. Until then the 2 options above are your best bets.
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Telegram is "Running Logos Bible Software on Linux"
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Create an account at Telegram or on a Matrix server and join the appropriate channel:
Server: ; Channel:For the default matrix server: ; Channel: #logosbible:matrix.org
I installed Logos using the beta 4 binary, and I'm currently stuck on the step of downloading the library. When I choose "Run Logos" on the TUI, it opens the page where I can choose to download the whole library or part of it. And there's a progress bar that was stuck on 10% for a while and now on 20% (not sure what I did to let it make progress). But when I choose to download the whole library, the window disappears and the TUI goes from saying "Stop Logos" back to saying "Run Logos." I tried leaving it in this state overnight to see if anything was running in the background, but it didn't work. How do I let it download the rest of the library?
There are a couple workarounds. You may either need to delete the ICU files in your Downloads directory or remove the library catalog.
Yes.
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The easiest or most up-to-date install can be run through our installer hosted on GitHub. Our installer attempts to handle your system dependencies as well. Beta 5 will introduce support for the Alpine distribution. We currently support Debian-based, Fedora-based, Arch-based, and OpenSUSE-based distros.
You can download the latest release here:
We recently renamed the project to Ou Dedetai. It is a self-contained installer. There are some issues with the install procedure, and we are working on a hefty refactor that should make the install procedure more consistent and resolve the recent bugs that have been found. When beta 5 is released, it should in general be much more stable.
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I tested the latest Verbum yesterday and it works. It seemed to allow the features from my Logos subscription and my verbum 10 license.
גַּם־חֹשֶׁךְ֮ לֹֽא־יַחְשִׁ֪יךְ מִ֫מֶּ֥ךָ וְ֭לַיְלָה כַּיּ֣וֹם יָאִ֑יר כַּ֝חֲשֵׁיכָ֗ה כָּאוֹרָֽה
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