Other theological dictionaries in searches?

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  • Sean Boisen
    Sean Boisen Member, Logos Employee Posts: 1,452

    Of the others, now 12, that interact with my paid for resources, three Biblical People, Biblical Places and Biblical Things do not work with the resource.

    I don't think this is correct. Those three sections of the Passage Guide are meant to show specific items that are mentioned in the passage in question, to link you to the Biblical People/Places/Things pages for them, and to preview their references and media images that pertain to them.

    If you look up James 3:3, under Biblical Things you'll find "bit and bridle", and if you have the Zondervan Encyclopedia, an image from the first volume showing "a youth controlling his horse with a bridle" .

    If you look up Job 28:7, you'll find a reference to a falcon, and a picture from the first volume of a "limestone figurine of a falcon" .

    If you look up Matt 22:17, you'll find Tiberius Caesar under Biblical People (note, even though the verse itself doesn't disambiguate which Caesar this is, Logos does), and a picture of a coin with an image of TIberius.

    I appreciate that you can't always know what tagging is and is not complete: that's complex, hard to communicate, and changes frequently. But we are working hard to make the program, the resources, and the data that ties them together better, quite literally every (working) day.

     

  • Mike Binks
    Mike Binks MVP Posts: 7,436

    If you look up Matt 22:17, you'll find Tiberius Caesar under Biblical People (note, even though the verse itself doesn't disambiguate which Caesar this is, Logos does), and a picture of a coin with an image of TIberius.

    I take you point Sean, and if I am guilty of overstating my case then I apologies.

    However if I want to move from the Link to Tiberius Caesar the only dictionary that is listed is the NBD and it was this shortage that I wanted the Zondervan Encyclopaedia to alleviate.

    However now I know I can open the resource from the library and search it from there - kind of defeats the purpose though.

    Thanks for pointing out to me some of the ways these facilities can be used though.

    Mike

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  • Sean Boisen
    Sean Boisen Member, Logos Employee Posts: 1,452

    Yes, that's the symptom of the previously noted fact that the Zondervan Encyclopedia isn't yet included in the LCV.

    I think the best workaround for now is the one Mark Barnes has mentioned above. That is:

    • follow the link to a dictionary that is included (like NBD)
    • use the '+' icon to show parallel resources.

    It's not perfect, but it will work the large majority of the time.

  • Mike Binks
    Mike Binks MVP Posts: 7,436

    Yes, that's the symptom of the previously noted fact that the Zondervan Encyclopedia isn't yet included in the LCV.

    I think the best workaround for now is the one Mark Barnes has mentioned above. That is:

    • follow the link to a dictionary that is included (like NBD)
    • use the '+' icon to show parallel resources.

    It's not perfect, but it will work the large majority of the time.

    Sorry Sean - Now I am lost - 

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    I click on Naboth|NBD

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    Am I looking in the right place for the plus icon?

    I have discovered that by right clicking on the word 'Naboth ' in the above clip I can find entries to a number of other dictionaries that do not show up in Biblical People.

    In my Resources these are

    Colins English Dictionary

    Harper's Bible Dictionary

    Holman's Illustrated Bible Dictionary

    Easton's Bible Dictionary

    but still no entry for the Zondervan Encyclopaedia :-(

    Thank for your help

    Mike

     

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  • Robert Pavich
    Robert Pavich Member Posts: 5,685 ✭✭✭

    Mike,

    If you have a resource open (like a bible dictionary) and there is information found in another parallel resource, there will be a small (hard to see) plus sign to the right of the tab.

    If you click this plus sign, a window with resources "having the same articles" in them will open.

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  • Mike Binks
    Mike Binks MVP Posts: 7,436

    Thanks Robert

    If you have a resource open (like a bible dictionary) and there is information found in another parallel resource, there will be a small (hard to see) plus sign to the right of the tab.

    But as you can see from my screen shot this does not appear to be the case on the Mac Version.

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  • Sean Boisen
    Sean Boisen Member Posts: 174 ✭✭

    Thanks Robert

    If you have a resource open (like a bible dictionary) and there is information found in another parallel resource, there will be a small (hard to see) plus sign to the right of the tab.

    But as you can see from my screen shot this does not appear to be the case on the Mac Version.

    I'm sorry Mike, i didn't realize you were using the Mac alpha version (which i have to admit i know nothing about), or that this feature isn't there yet. I'll have to leave it to the Mac users to suggest what the best equivalent is here.

    On the windows version you can prioritize your resources, and that changes the order in which they occur on the right-click menu. If that feature is available on the Mac alpha, prioritizing the Zondervan dictionaries might make them appear on the right-click menu.

  • Mike Binks
    Mike Binks MVP Posts: 7,436

    I'm sorry Mike, i didn't realize you were using the Mac alpha version (which i have to admit i know nothing about), or that this feature isn't there yet. I'll have to leave it to the Mac users to suggest what the best equivalent is here.

    On the windows version you can prioritize your resources, and that changes the order in which they occur on the right-click menu. If that feature is available on the Mac alpha, prioritizing the Zondervan dictionaries might make them appear on the right-click menu.

    Hi Sean and Robert,

    You know enough to point me in the right direction - prioritising them worked - and what is more prioritising one prioritised them all.

    Thanks again for taking the time to help.

    Mike

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  • Francis
    Francis Member Posts: 3,816 ✭✭✭

    Mark asked a question earlier which was not fully answered. His question was why the ability to find via the tab functionality can't be integrated into the search tool?

    I think we can extend the question well beyond the tab ability to all the workarounds that have been mentioned that prove to provide EXISTING access to topics. Why can't these be directly searched now since they exist ALREADY?

    For instance, why can't we search headwords in lexical resources? These are obviously indexed already! I believe that it is the presence of these headwords in the index that account for the additional hits that can be found through the new tab and the various reports or guides. It seems that the LCV project might take a while yet. Would it be really complicated to give us access to searching the existing headwords?

     

  • Joel J.
    Joel J. Member Posts: 127 ✭✭

    Has Logos topical search been updated?  I saw that it was Feb. 2010 when they said the update would be coming soon...

     

     

    joel

  • Rosie Perera
    Rosie Perera Member Posts: 26,202 ✭✭✭✭✭

    Joel J. said:

    Has Logos topical search been updated?  I saw that it was Feb. 2010 when they said the update would be coming soon...

    Yes, it is updated regularly. Search the forums for LCV or "Logos Controlled Vocabulary" and you will see lots of mentions of it being updated. You can check when the latest update was by looking for the file LCV.lbslcv in your resources folder (...Logos4\Data\random_folder_name\ResourceManager\Resources), and check its filedate. It looks to me like this database was last updated on March 17, 2011 (or at least that's the last time it downloaded to my machine).