4.0b Release Candidate 2 (v4.02.3.7337) available

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  • George Allakhverdyan
    George Allakhverdyan Member Posts: 1,075 ✭✭✭


    I understand, but I was already in the beta channel, and the RC2 update wouldn't download until I entered "set update channel to beta"--which upon doing, it immediately downloaded (without a restart or an "update now").

    I believe this is because Logos4 checks once a day for updates and won't check again if it already did that day - thus when you use set update channel to beta it resets the flag and checks for updates right then.

    But I had run "update now" before setting the channel.  Doesn't that force the check?


    Hm I wonder if RC1 sets the update channel to something other than the beta channel after installing itself..

  • Todd Phillips
    Todd Phillips Member Posts: 6,735 ✭✭✭


    I understand, but I was already in the beta channel, and the RC2 update wouldn't download until I entered "set update channel to beta"--which upon doing, it immediately downloaded (without a restart or an "update now").

    I believe this is because Logos4 checks once a day for updates and won't check again if it already did that day - thus when you use set update channel to beta it resets the flag and checks for updates right then.

    But I had run "update now" before setting the channel.  Doesn't that force the check?



    Hm I wonder if RC1 sets the update channel to something other than the beta channel after installing itself..

    Exactly my point.

    MacBook Pro (2019), ThinkPad E540

  • Dave Hooton
    Dave Hooton MVP Posts: 35,770

    Hm I wonder if RC1 sets the update channel to something other than the beta channel after installing itself..

    Exactly my point.

    Todd, the answer is all in Bradley's response on page1!  When I switched to beta channel in RC1 I got the update notification. After installation I switched back to "default" (stable channel) and it notified me there were no updates.

    Dave
    ===

    Windows 11 & Android 13

  • Dominick Sela
    Dominick Sela Member Posts: 3,641 ✭✭✭

    I think the point is that for some people they did not switch back to Set update channel to default yet still had to type Set update channel to beta to get the download.

    I had to -- I closed Logos 4 and restarted, I tried Update now several times, restarted, and nothing. Only when I read the tip, I typed in Set update channel to beta and boom - update started.  I have been on the beta channel since beta 4, and I have never typed in Set update channel to default.

  • SteveF
    SteveF Member Posts: 1,866 ✭✭✭

    I have been on the beta channel since beta 4, and I have never typed in Set update channel to default.

    Same here

     

    Regards, SteveF

  • Dave Hooton
    Dave Hooton MVP Posts: 35,770

    I think the point is that for some people they did not switch back to Set update channel to default

    Beta program = beta channel as "default" --> no need to do anything except Update Now to get updates on beta channel, which include RC's.

    RC program =  stable channel as "default" -> have to switch to beta channel to get the next RC. About Logos will confirm still on beta channel after update.  This is the only time it becomes advisable to switch to default because you won't get SR's if the RC goes "Gold" (unless Logos put SR's on both channels). The real point is that you will automatically get 4.0c beta when that is released!

    Dave
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    Windows 11 & Android 13

  • Todd Phillips
    Todd Phillips Member Posts: 6,735 ✭✭✭

    I think the point is that for some people they did not switch back to Set update channel to default

    Beta program = beta channel as "default" --> no need to do anything except Update Now to get updates on beta channel, which include RC's.

    RC program =  stable channel as "default" -> have to switch to beta channel to get the next RC. About Logos will confirm still on beta channel after update.  This is the only time it becomes advisable to switch to default because you won't get SR's if the RC goes "Gold" (unless Logos put SR's on both channels). The real point is that you will automatically get 4.0c beta when that is released!

    Bradley said "Setting a channel is permanent until you run "set update channel to
    default". The default for RC & SR builds is the "stable" channel;
    the default for Alpha & Beta builds is the "beta" channel.
    " (emphasis mine) 

    I did not run "set update channel to
    default". So, since the channel is permanent, my channel should have remained beta after I installed RC1, since that's what it was before it was installed. 

    Which doesn't answer my question of why running "set update channel to beta" caused RC2 to install, because I should have already been on the beta channel and it should have downloaded automatically.

    It mostly doesn't matter to me since I know how to force it to download.  I was pointing it out so Logos should know, since I didn't think it was working correctly, but if they think it's fine, then so be it.

    MacBook Pro (2019), ThinkPad E540

  • Mark Barnes
    Mark Barnes Member Posts: 15,432 ✭✭✭

    If you originally installed the beta from the link provided in the forum, your "channel" may never have been set to beta. That's probably the most likely explanation.

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  • Todd Phillips
    Todd Phillips Member Posts: 6,735 ✭✭✭

    If you originally installed the beta from the link provided in the forum, your "channel" may never have been set to beta. That's probably the most likely explanation.

    Hmm.  Would it have download loaded beta2 though beta14 automatically if that was the case? (which it did)

    MacBook Pro (2019), ThinkPad E540

  • Mark Barnes
    Mark Barnes Member Posts: 15,432 ✭✭✭

    Yes, by default betas download betas, but RCs only download full releases.

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  • Todd Phillips
    Todd Phillips Member Posts: 6,735 ✭✭✭

    Yes, by default betas download betas, but RCs only download full releases.

    Ok. I guess my base assumption may have been wrong then. (that I was already on the beta channel)

    MacBook Pro (2019), ThinkPad E540

  • Dave Hooton
    Dave Hooton MVP Posts: 35,770

    Bradley said "Setting a channel is permanent until you run "set update channel to
    default". The default for RC & SR builds is the "stable" channel;
    the default for Alpha & Beta builds is the "beta" channel.
    " (emphasis mine) 

    Bradley said "Setting a channel is permanent until you run "set update channel to
    default". The default for RC & SR builds is the "stable" channel;
    the default for Alpha & Beta builds is the "beta" channel.
    " (emphasis mine)

    Since you never set the channel to beta it will stay on or change with the program's default channel.

    I'm on Beta 12 on the laptop. I've been ignoring update notifications for both RC's. About Logos has nothing about the update channel. I  set update channel to beta and About Logos now says:

    • 4.0b Beta 12 (4.02.3.6914) (Update channel: beta) and I get the update notification.

    I  set update channel to default and About Logos says:

    • 4.0b Beta 12 (4.02.3.6914)  and I get the update notification.

    I accept the download, change channel back to beta & About Logos confirms that.

    After the update About Logos says:

    • 4.0b (4.02.3.7337) (Update channel: beta).

    I've now set it to default and it reads:

    • 4.0b (4.02.3.7337)

    Therefore I should not be able to download the next RC (if any) without changing the channel to beta! The fact that I had to do it going from RC1 to RC2 on Desktop is enough proof for me.

    Dave
    ===

    Windows 11 & Android 13

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