4.0b RC 2 (v4.02.3.7337) is now available for testing.
For Release Notes, see http://wiki.logos.com/Logos_4.0b_RC_2.
To upgrade from a previous beta, enter "update now," or if you are on RC 1, enter "set update channel to beta" to begin downloading it. To install RC 2 from scratch, see the notes and download link at http://community.logos.com/forums/t/8883.aspx
For 4.0b RC 1 release notes, see http://community.logos.com/forums/t/13091.aspx.
RC2 is not auto downloading?
Not for me either.
Melissa
We have to use "Set update channel to beta" to get it!
OR use the web link.
Melissa We have to use "Set update channel to beta" to get it!
THAT did it. Thanks Dave.
THAT did it.
It's because the RC's are on the stable channel by default.
After the update you should revert by using "Set update channel to default" unless you want to remain on beta.
Wouldn't RC2 revert me to the stable channel automatically, just like RC1 did? I want to stay in the beta, so wouldn't I have to enter "set update channel to beta" (again) to get 4.0c beta1?
Wouldn't RC2 revert me to the stable channel automatically, just like RC1 did?
Check About Logos next to the version information. Mine stated "Beta channel"!
Mine stated "Beta channel"!
Is this new? (I also have it).
I don't remember seeing it before.
Or is this part of the "debate" as to What "properties" etc go along with any of the RC releases?
After the update you should revert by using "Set update channel to default" unless you want to remain on beta. Wouldn't RC2 revert me to the stable channel automatically, just like RC1 did? I want to stay in the beta, so wouldn't I have to enter "set update channel to beta" (again) to get 4.0c beta1?
Setting a channel is permanent until you run "set update channel to default". The default for RC & SR builds is the "stable" channel; the default for Alpha & Beta builds is the "beta" channel.
If you use "set update channel" to download RC2 instead of running the installer link directly, we strongly recommend running "set update channel to default" after it's installed to make sure no unwanted beta updates download in the future.
After the update you should revert by using "Set update channel to default" unless you want to remain on beta. Wouldn't RC2 revert me to the stable channel automatically, just like RC1 did? I want to stay in the beta, so wouldn't I have to enter "set update channel to beta" (again) to get 4.0c beta1? Setting a channel is permanent until you run "set update channel to default". The default for RC & SR builds is the "stable" channel; the default for Alpha & Beta builds is the "beta" channel. If you use "set update channel" to download RC2 instead of running the installer link directly, we strongly recommend running "set update channel to default" after it's installed to make sure no unwanted beta updates download in the future.
I understand, but I was already in the beta channel, and the RC2 update wouldn't download until I entered "set update channel to beta"--which upon doing, it immediately downloaded (without a restart or an "update now").
Same here
Is there a post/link somewhere that highlights all the new features in the 4.0b that we should be testing?
No new features, just bug fixes. See Melissa's posting at the top of the page for the link.
Logos will release cumulative release notes when 4.0b goes golden. For now I suggest reading the release notes for all the Betas here (at least the new features parts) http://wiki.logos.com/Logos_4_Beta_Release_Notes
Okay, I downloaded 4.0b Release Candidate 2 (v4.02.3.7337) per Melissa's post: http://community.logos.com/forums/t/13124.aspx And even though I have 5 hours of indexing to go, I decided to test the one thing I was interested in - i.e., did it solve the problem of my PC crashing everytime I did a lemma morphological search. Based on doing one search in BHS and a couple in NA27, it appears that this stable pre-release revision has indeed solved the problem. Hip-hip-hurray!!! [:)]
I'm preparing a video on the new features in 4.0b, so made the following list from the various release posts.
Hi Mark,
No new features, just bug fixes.
This is the first beta that I'm testing so everything to me is new. [:)]
I believe this is because Logos4 checks once a day for updates and won't check again if it already did that day - thus when you use set update channel to beta it resets the flag and checks for updates right then.
Mark,
I'm preparing a video on the new features in 4.0b
This is exactly what I was looking for. Thanks!
This is the first beta that I'm testing so everything to me is new.
Sorry, I misunderstood.
I'm preparing a video on the new features in 4.0b This is exactly what I was looking for. Thanks!
The video is now at http://www.4-14.org.uk/logos-bible-software-tutorial-videos#40b
Great job again, Mark.
You missed a feature I think is nice:
Didn't have this in 4.0a.
Thanks Mark !
added to wiki page Logos 4 Video Tutorials
You missed a feature I think is nice: Resources support navigating by data type levels, highlighting, and search results
Doh! I had this on my list, and even recorded it in an aborted recording. You're right, it's a handy feature.
You missed a feature I think is nice: Resources support navigating by data type levels, highlighting, and search results Doh! I had this on my list, and even recorded it in an aborted recording. You're right, it's a handy feature.
What is this feature, can you elaborate? I am drawing a blank on it. Thanks!
Oh that is so sweet. How did I miss that? Thanks Kevin...
Thanks, Mark--this is an excellent list. It does contain some inaccuracies, as features changed during the beta. For example, "We recommend running the import delete notes command, followed by import notes to re-import the notes." doesn't apply to new users of 4.0b, because they never had already-imported notes that should be deleted.
"This replaces the Title/Delete pop-up" refers to a feature that only existed for one beta. "There are now different settings for auto bookmarks, user defined favorite bookmarks, and search bookmarks for more control over visual bookmark settings" existed in an early beta, but was reduced to just two settings for the release. "Added "Speed search" to Bible search, which is now the default" is now called "Search (while typing)" and is not the default anymore.
I used your list as the basis for creating http://wiki.logos.com/4.0b, and cleaned up some other small errors I saw as I was working through it.
I understand, but I was already in the beta channel, and the RC2 update wouldn't download until I entered "set update channel to beta"--which upon doing, it immediately downloaded (without a restart or an "update now"). I believe this is because Logos4 checks once a day for updates and won't check again if it already did that day - thus when you use set update channel to beta it resets the flag and checks for updates right then.
But I had run "update now" before setting the channel. Doesn't that force the check?
Unmentioned but useful is the pop-up that one now has with resources in the PG. Instead of just titles of commentaries appearing, hovering produces the same pop-up info you have in the Library. (Maybe this feature is implemented elsewhere but i noticed it there.)
I understand, but I was already in the beta channel, and the RC2 update wouldn't download until I entered "set update channel to beta"--which upon doing, it immediately downloaded (without a restart or an "update now"). I believe this is because Logos4 checks once a day for updates and won't check again if it already did that day - thus when you use set update channel to beta it resets the flag and checks for updates right then. But I had run "update now" before setting the channel. Doesn't that force the check?
Hm I wonder if RC1 sets the update channel to something other than the beta channel after installing itself..
I understand, but I was already in the beta channel, and the RC2 update wouldn't download until I entered "set update channel to beta"--which upon doing, it immediately downloaded (without a restart or an "update now"). I believe this is because Logos4 checks once a day for updates and won't check again if it already did that day - thus when you use set update channel to beta it resets the flag and checks for updates right then. But I had run "update now" before setting the channel. Doesn't that force the check? Hm I wonder if RC1 sets the update channel to something other than the beta channel after installing itself..
Exactly my point.
Hm I wonder if RC1 sets the update channel to something other than the beta channel after installing itself.. Exactly my point.
Todd, the answer is all in Bradley's response on page1! When I switched to beta channel in RC1 I got the update notification. After installation I switched back to "default" (stable channel) and it notified me there were no updates.
I think the point is that for some people they did not switch back to Set update channel to default yet still had to type Set update channel to beta to get the download.
I had to -- I closed Logos 4 and restarted, I tried Update now several times, restarted, and nothing. Only when I read the tip, I typed in Set update channel to beta and boom - update started. I have been on the beta channel since beta 4, and I have never typed in Set update channel to default.
I have been on the beta channel since beta 4, and I have never typed in Set update channel to default.
I think the point is that for some people they did not switch back to Set update channel to default
Beta program = beta channel as "default" --> no need to do anything except Update Now to get updates on beta channel, which include RC's.
RC program = stable channel as "default" -> have to switch to beta channel to get the next RC. About Logos will confirm still on beta channel after update. This is the only time it becomes advisable to switch to default because you won't get SR's if the RC goes "Gold" (unless Logos put SR's on both channels). The real point is that you will automatically get 4.0c beta when that is released!
I think the point is that for some people they did not switch back to Set update channel to default Beta program = beta channel as "default" --> no need to do anything except Update Now to get updates on beta channel, which include RC's. RC program = stable channel as "default" -> have to switch to beta channel to get the next RC. About Logos will confirm still on beta channel after update. This is the only time it becomes advisable to switch to default because you won't get SR's if the RC goes "Gold" (unless Logos put SR's on both channels). The real point is that you will automatically get 4.0c beta when that is released!
Bradley said "Setting a channel is permanent until you run "set update channel todefault". The default for RC & SR builds is the "stable" channel;the default for Alpha & Beta builds is the "beta" channel." (emphasis mine)
I did not run "set update channel todefault". So, since the channel is permanent, my channel should have remained beta after I installed RC1, since that's what it was before it was installed.
Which doesn't answer my question of why running "set update channel to beta" caused RC2 to install, because I should have already been on the beta channel and it should have downloaded automatically.
It mostly doesn't matter to me since I know how to force it to download. I was pointing it out so Logos should know, since I didn't think it was working correctly, but if they think it's fine, then so be it.
If you originally installed the beta from the link provided in the forum, your "channel" may never have been set to beta. That's probably the most likely explanation.
Hmm. Would it have download loaded beta2 though beta14 automatically if that was the case? (which it did)
Yes, by default betas download betas, but RCs only download full releases.
Ok. I guess my base assumption may have been wrong then. (that I was already on the beta channel)
Since you never set the channel to beta it will stay on or change with the program's default channel.
I'm on Beta 12 on the laptop. I've been ignoring update notifications for both RC's. About Logos has nothing about the update channel. I set update channel to beta and About Logos now says:
I set update channel to default and About Logos says:
I accept the download, change channel back to beta & About Logos confirms that.
After the update About Logos says:
I've now set it to default and it reads:
Therefore I should not be able to download the next RC (if any) without changing the channel to beta! The fact that I had to do it going from RC1 to RC2 on Desktop is enough proof for me.
