Massive Vyrso Update!
I spoke with Kyle G today and he told me the below. I just want to call him out here and say Thank You Kyle for helping us with these Vyrso issues... I (and I'm sure others) really, really do appreciate it.
"You might be interested in knowing we've done an analysis on Vyrso titles that have less toc-entries than we'd expect. We're running a mass re-conversion on Monday that will update about 4000 titles."
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Thank you Kyle G. Anderson
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Yes, thank you!
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Mattillo said:
"You might be interested in knowing we've done an analysis on Vyrso titles that have less toc-entries than we'd expect. We're running a mass re-conversion on Monday that will update about 4000 titles."
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Good news!
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Thanks for the kind words. I'm glad I could help and thank you for bringing them to my attention.
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Thank you Kyle. The TOC are important for making books in the faithlife ecosystem easy to use. Are there also plans to update the growing catalog of noet ebooks?
I am thinking of Berger's Social Construction of Reality as an example of a good book that has a hyperlinked table of contents in the front-matter, but no "left window" table of contents that would allow this feature to be accessed from anywhere in the book.
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Mattillo said:
"You might be interested in knowing we've done an analysis on Vyrso titles that have less toc-entries than we'd expect. We're running a mass re-conversion on Monday that will update about 4000 titles."
Great news. Thanks for sharing.
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Mattillo said:
I spoke with Kyle G today and he told me the below. I just want to call him out here and say Thank You Kyle for helping us with these Vyrso issues... I (and I'm sure others) really, really do appreciate it.
"You might be interested in knowing we've done an analysis on Vyrso titles that have less toc-entries than we'd expect. We're running a mass re-conversion on Monday that will update about 4000 titles."
Excellent effort !
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Thank you Kyle and thanks Matillo for the update.
Mattillo said:I spoke with Kyle G today and he told me the below. I just want to call him out here and say Thank You Kyle for helping us with these Vyrso issues... I (and I'm sure others) really, really do appreciate it.
"You might be interested in knowing we've done an analysis on Vyrso titles that have less toc-entries than we'd expect. We're running a mass re-conversion on Monday that will update about 4000 titles."
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Mattillo said:
"You might be interested in knowing we've done an analysis on Vyrso titles that have less toc-entries than we'd expect. We're running a mass re-conversion on Monday that will update about 4000 titles."
I certainly hope the Encyclopedia of Christian Education and the Encyclopedia of Christianity in the United States are among those that they are going to do better TOCs for. This is absolutely useless as a TOC for an Encyclopedia. At $350 and $480, respectively, I would expect them to have decent TOCs.
Here, by contrast is the TOC of the ISBE, a Logos edition book which costs a mere $129.99. Now that's what an Encyclopedia TOC should look like.
I get it that Vyrso books are not manually processed. But if that's the case, then these two should not cost so much. This is way more than most Logos edition encyclopedias cost.
I confess that I wouldn't normally pay that much for a single volume digital book no matter how good I thought it might be (these two are $60 and $90 LESS on Kindle, respectively, BTW). But in addition to being a reference book addict, I'm secretly hoping that they'll do one more of George Kurian's encyclopedias that I requested a while back, the Encyclopedia of Christian Literature, because I have an entry in it, and I thought that by buying these two I might be indicating that there is an interest in such things. Silly me. I doubt anybody else has bought them or ever will. Those prices are truly outrageous. I blame the publisher just as much. The hardcover editions are priced like these Vyrso ones.
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Wow...I'd never pay that for a Vyrso resource.
Rosie Perera said:Mattillo said:"You might be interested in knowing we've done an analysis on Vyrso titles that have less toc-entries than we'd expect. We're running a mass re-conversion on Monday that will update about 4000 titles."
I certainly hope the Encyclopedia of Christian Education and the Encyclopedia of Christianity in the United States are among those that they are going to do better TOCs for. This is absolutely useless as a TOC for an Encyclopedia. At $350 and $480, respectively, I would expect them to have decent TOCs.
Here, by contrast is the TOC of the ISBE, a Logos edition book which costs a mere $129.99. Now that's what an Encyclopedia TOC should look like.
I get it that Vyrso books are not manually processed. But if that's the case, then these two should not cost so much. This is way more than most Logos edition encyclopedias cost.
I confess that I wouldn't normally pay that much for a single volume digital book no matter how good I thought it might be (these two are $60 and $90 LESS on Kindle, respectively, BTW). But in addition to being a reference book addict, I'm secretly hoping that they'll do one more of George Kurian's encyclopedias that I requested a while back, the Encyclopedia of Christian Literature, because I have an entry in it, and I thought that by buying these two I might be indicating that there is an interest in such things. Silly me. I doubt anybody else has bought them or ever will. Those prices are truly outrageous. I blame the publisher just as much. The hardcover editions are priced like these Vyrso ones.
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Hi Rosie, we are sorry to hear about the issues with these resources and I have sent you an email to discuss this issue. Have a great day!
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Kyle sent me a message today informing me that the vyrso update got pushed back to March 6 (Monday)
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Kyle G. Anderson - March the 6th is almost gone, and I have not seen the MASSIVE VYRSO UPDATE as yet!
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It had to get pushed back to today. Last I heard everything is set to go.
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Thank you Kyle G. Anderson [:D]
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Thank you Kyle. I'm really looking forward to receiving the updated resources. Especially since most of my Vyrso library I got for free, or 0.99 per book, that's nothing I could take for granted. Customer support might be a bit bumpy at times, but at the end of the day it's usually still awesome!
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Today is March 9th. Has this "massive update" been pushed out?
Also, is the Vyrso brand being abandoned in general? In the past there were Vyrso freebies, near-freebies, deals, and exciting new books (nonfictions) from publishers almost weekly. The site seems more quiet in the last few months...
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Kyle G. Anderson ????????
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PL said:
Also, is the Vyrso brand being abandoned in general? In the past there were Vyrso freebies, near-freebies, deals, and exciting new books (nonfictions) from publishers almost weekly. The site seems more quiet in the last few months...
I saw some new freebies and some nice 99 cent books this week. It seems that B&H and Baker are still providing 99c titles. Cook was providing a lot of free books but they seem to be offering a lot of repeats recently. I guess they can only give away so many ;-)
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Pricing and providing free books is really in the hands of the publishers. We can't blame Vyrso for the decline.
Maybe some day there will be lots of free books again, once there's a new generation of readers for whom free books are an effective marketing strategy once again.
For my part, I no longer purchase more books from the same series or author after having received and read a free book (I did that in the past though).
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PL said:
Also, is the Vyrso brand being abandoned in general? In the past there were Vyrso freebies, near-freebies, deals, and exciting new books (nonfictions) from publishers almost weekly. The site seems more quiet in the last few months...
A couple of months ago, I would have agreed that Logos seems to have abandoned Vyrso, but the last month or so has been pretty good. They are pushing out new books almost daily, and there have even been pre-orders for brand new releases. I check Tim Challies Kindle deals daily and always try to see if the deal matches in Vyrso. Last year, the deals were sparse at best and even if they had the book in Vyrso it hardly ever was on sale. Now they are often on sale and I have picked up a lot of great books. Does it need more attention? Definitely, but someone is doing something behind the scenes. I would love to see a wishlist feature though.
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Maybe someone realised the automatic book processor plug had come out from the wall, and it was plugged back in again a month or two ago hence why you percieve more activity recently.
But getting back on topic, I wonder if we will see that massive update soon.
David Ruley said:PL said:Also, is the Vyrso brand being abandoned in general? In the past there were Vyrso freebies, near-freebies, deals, and exciting new books (nonfictions) from publishers almost weekly. The site seems more quiet in the last few months...
A couple of months ago, I would have agreed that Logos seems to have abandoned Vyrso, but the last month or so has been pretty good. They are pushing out new books almost daily, and there have even been pre-orders for brand new releases. I check Tim Challies Kindle deals daily and always try to see if the deal matches in Vyrso. Last year, the deals were sparse at best and even if they had the book in Vyrso it hardly ever was on sale. Now they are often on sale and I have picked up a lot of great books. Does it need more attention? Definitely, but someone is doing something behind the scenes. I would love to see a wishlist feature though.
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We pushed out an update to about 1000 resources earlier this week. The update fixed books that had less than expected toc-entries.
Please let me know if you encounter any more. It is possible for us to expand the scope of this type of update if it is necessary.
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Kyle G. Anderson said:
Please let me know if you encounter any more.
Kyle,
Would you be so kind as to fix this one? We do not need all of the page number links. I have encountered this in several Vyrso books in the past, but I was a little surprised as this one was just released about eight months ago.
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PL said:
Also, is the Vyrso brand being abandoned in general? In the past there were Vyrso freebies, near-freebies, deals, and exciting new books (nonfictions) from publishers almost weekly. The site seems more quiet in the last few months
I've also noticed that the site has been quite a bit quieter lately.
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Thanks Kyle, personally must not own many of the resources updated as I did not see any more updates than normal this week.
Kyle G. Anderson said:We pushed out an update to about 1000 resources earlier this week. The update fixed books that had less than expected toc-entries.
Please let me know if you encounter any more. It is possible for us to expand the scope of this type of update if it is necessary.
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Kyle G. Anderson said:
We pushed out an update to about 1000 resources earlier this week. The update fixed books that had less than expected toc-entries.
Please let me know if you encounter any more. It is possible for us to expand the scope of this type of update if it is necessary.
Herschel Hobbs' Fundamentals of the Faith could use an update Mr Kyle Sir... the TOC is present but it is generic, e.g. Chapter 1, etc instead of the actual chapter titles. The Mark Mittelberg Collection has the same issue as well
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Kyle G. Anderson said:
We pushed out an update to about 1000 resources earlier this week. The update fixed books that had less than expected toc-entries.
Please let me know if you encounter any more. It is possible for us to expand the scope of this type of update if it is necessary.
- Herschel Hobbs' Fundamentals of the Faith could use an update... the TOC is present but it is generic, e.g. Chapter 1, etc instead of the actual chapter titles. The Mark Mittelberg Collection has the same issue as well. I also noticed William Craig's book On Guard has extremely small images in it that are impossible to read on a mobile device. E.g. Chapter 3, several paragraphs under subtitle Atheist Alternative: The Universe Exists Necessarily! has one such image. You can see these all over the book
- The progressive publication of Matthew has a ToC but it is generic like chapter 1,2,etc
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