LogosNext V6 Feedback (Closed Beta)

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  • PL
    PL Member Posts: 2,134 ✭✭✭

    BUG: Cannot select text on the iPad.

    Selecting text on the iPad is hit or miss with Logos Next, especially after the text has been highlighted. It's intermittent, but it's a miss more than a hit.

    PLEASE FIX.

    Please also restore the clickable Book Title and Chapter Title headers in the old app. Currently the only way to switch resources is to go to the panels view, close the original half-panel, then tap to open Library again. Too many taps, very clumsy.

    Thanks.

  • Myke Harbuck
    Myke Harbuck Member Posts: 1,646 ✭✭✭

    Regarding the Notes pane, can the most recent notes created display first, then display the rest alphabetically by title?

    Not sure, but I think in 5.xxx it was completely by last edited date for all of the notes documents. But if 6xxx desires to display them alphabetically, which isn't a totally bad idea, at least display the last 5-10 most recently edited first, then display the rest by notes title. When Im working on a sermon in a notes document on my desktop, it would be nice to open up 6.xxx and see if displayed to me first in my Notes listing.

    Thanks for the excellent work this far! Loving it! I love the way Faithlife listens to their users!

    Myke Harbuck
    Lead Pastor, www.ByronCity.Church
    Adjunct Professor, Georgia Military College

  • Graham Criddle
    Graham Criddle MVP Posts: 32,639

    Regarding the Notes pane, can the most recent notes created display first, then display the rest alphabetically by title?

    Not sure, but I think in 5.xxx it was completely by last edited date for all of the notes documents. But if 6xxx desires to display them alphabetically, which isn't a totally bad idea, at least display the last 5-10 most recently edited first, then display the rest by notes title. When Im working on a sermon in a notes document on my desktop, it would be nice to open up 6.xxx and see if displayed to me first in my Notes listing.

    I would like some options around sorting based on type - for example I generally want to see the most recent sermon documents but would probably prefer to have notes ordered alphabetically.

    So being able to specify - on a per-user basis - for each type could be a good way forward

  • Daniel Di Bartolo
    Daniel Di Bartolo Member, Logos Employee Posts: 326

    Regarding the Notes pane, can the most recent notes created display first, then display the rest alphabetically by title?

    Thanks for the feedback, Myke. We have broad improvements coming to Notes across mobile, web app, and desktop. 

  • Daniel Di Bartolo
    Daniel Di Bartolo Member, Logos Employee Posts: 326

    PL said:

    Selecting text on the iPad is hit or miss with Logos Next, especially after the text has been highlighted. It's intermittent, but it's a miss more than a hit.

    What kind of iPad are you using? What OS version are you running? Are you running the most recent TestFlight build?

  • PL
    PL Member Posts: 2,134 ✭✭✭

    iPad mini 4, iOS 11, yes.

    Issue was there under iOS 10 and on the previous TestFlight build.

    Thanks,

    Peter

  • Dave Couch
    Dave Couch Member Posts: 164 ✭✭✭

    Is there still the ability to open an image (e.g. a map in a study bible) full screen? I couldn't figure it out last night.

  • James McAdams
    James McAdams Member Posts: 763 ✭✭✭

    Is there still the ability to open an image (e.g. a map in a study bible) full screen? I couldn't figure it out last night.

    Only a few resources allowed this in the live version of the app, and nothing has changed on that front as far as I can tell. My guess is that you're trying to do it from a different resource this time, hence the different result? Just a guess, as I say.

  • Graham Criddle
    Graham Criddle MVP Posts: 32,639

    Is there still the ability to open an image (e.g. a map in a study bible) full screen? I couldn't figure it out last night.

    It looks like it's not working

  • James McAdams
    James McAdams Member Posts: 763 ✭✭✭

    Is there still the ability to open an image (e.g. a map in a study bible) full screen? I couldn't figure it out last night.

    It looks like it's not working

    One of the only resources that I could do this with previously was the Faithlife Study Bible, and I'm still able to load them now - images, infographics, maps etc are all fine for me there. Are you seeing a function that works in the current app that's stopped working?

  • Graham Criddle
    Graham Criddle MVP Posts: 32,639

    Agreed it was always only limited

    But in the currently released app I can double click an image in the ESV study Bible and it goes full screen

    I cant get the same image in the same resource to go full screen in the new beta version

  • Kevin A. Purcell
    Kevin A. Purcell Member Posts: 3,408 ✭✭✭

    I love the new approach with screens for various uses, but I don't like that when I'm in one of the screens and want to add a second window to that screen, it seems like I have to tap the screens button (2nd from right at bottom) and then tap the button in the upper right corner to add a second window to that screen. This is not as efficient as the present app behavior. There needs to be a way to do it from the open screen without having to hit the toolbar icon. If there is, it needs to be more discoverable since I haven't found it. The new system requires up to 3 taps or four if your toolbars are not showing.

    UPDATE:

    Also don't like that I have to go into the screens section to link my two window panes. This was much better the old way.

    Dr. Kevin Purcell, Director of Missions
    Brushy Mountain Baptist Association

    www.kevinpurcell.org

  • Kevin A. Purcell
    Kevin A. Purcell Member Posts: 3,408 ✭✭✭

    Another issue I see is that it's very unstable. I've had to force close the app on my iPhone many times in just a few times using it over the last week. It seems to constantly access the internet while open, which might be contributing to this.

    Dr. Kevin Purcell, Director of Missions
    Brushy Mountain Baptist Association

    www.kevinpurcell.org

  • Kevin A. Purcell
    Kevin A. Purcell Member Posts: 3,408 ✭✭✭

    Not sure if you want all of these in separate replies, but that's what I'm doing for each issue I find.

    I think there needs to be a way to open a book from a library and let it replace the current screen instead of open a new screen. For example, make it a long press or put a check mark in the top of the library window that says, "Replace current screen" or something like that.

    Dr. Kevin Purcell, Director of Missions
    Brushy Mountain Baptist Association

    www.kevinpurcell.org

  • PL
    PL Member Posts: 2,134 ✭✭✭

    Agree with all of your observations and suggestions, Kevin.

    Peter

  • Gavin Murphy
    Gavin Murphy Member Posts: 109

    Hello FL,

    When you do a Text Comparison the tool bar on top hides the first Bible verse. Should the first verse be lower or should the tool bar hide itself after a second?

  • Gavin Murphy
    Gavin Murphy Member Posts: 109

    This isn't a big deal...but every time I see it it looks weird to me. The blue color here seems inconsistent with the rest of the app. I think it used to be "Logos" blue...

  • David Gayle Woods
    David Gayle Woods Member Posts: 34 ✭✭

    Just started testing the beta, sorry if these have been covered already…

    • Opening a devotional (Sanctuary) from the home screen doesn’t seem to work. I do have this devotional in a pane shared with ESV. But tapping from the homescreen doesn’t do anything. Tapping the ESV for my Bible reading plan from the homescreen does work.
    • When reading and scrolling, I find the top toolbar continually comes down and obscures the first few lines. It appears that when I lift my finger off the screen, I often make a slight downward motion. Maybe I’m ”just doing it wrong”.
    • Tapping ”Mark Read” for a scripture reading results in a swiping left animation that would seem to indicate I had switched window panes, but I had not switched panes.
    • Is drag and drop functionality for iOS 11 coming soon?
  • JT (alabama24)
    JT (alabama24) MVP Posts: 36,512

    Tapping ”Mark Read” for a scripture reading results in a swiping left animation that would seem to indicate I had switched window panes, but I had not switched panes.

    Actually, you have. There is a bug where a new tab is created, so it really did "switch panes." In my opinion, it is a pain! 

    Is drag and drop functionality for iOS 11 coming soon?

    Nothing mentioned. 

    When reading and scrolling, I find the top toolbar continually comes down and obscures the first few lines.

    yes, annoying! 

    macOS, iOS & iPadOS |Logs| Install
    truth over tribe

  • Myke Harbuck
    Myke Harbuck Member Posts: 1,646 ✭✭✭

    Dear Faithlife friends, 

    PLEASE! Is there anyway Mobile Ed videos can launch in NON-full screen mode. It would be nice to be able to watch the video and take notes ALL INSIDE THE APP, without having to do a split screen with the iOS app and the Web App, as we must do now.

    Im not sure who made the decision to force full screen only on us, but, in my opinion, it was a poor one. At this point all one can do is WATCH...one can't take notes, highlight, read long in the transcripts, look up Bible verses in a Bible...nothing. Just....watch. Ugh, 

    This was brought up several times previously over the last couple years. I was hoping this would be addressed in 6.xxx. Why not?? 

    Myke Harbuck
    Lead Pastor, www.ByronCity.Church
    Adjunct Professor, Georgia Military College

  • David Gayle Woods
    David Gayle Woods Member Posts: 34 ✭✭

    Concerning the “Mark Read”… I’ve been watching this more, and what appears to happen is that if you have multiple windows of the same Bible open, it switches you from the window pane you are on to another one. I am not seeing it actually open up a new pane. And, if you close the other panes of the same Bible, it is not opening a new one for me.

    Also, a little more concerning the problem of the devotional not opening from the home screen… if the devotional is not active in a window pane, it will open. But if the devotional is open already, it will not work. I do not have the devotional downloaded for LogosNext; I am not sure if that has anything to do with this behavior (I have had internet connection throughout, so that is not the issue).

  • Daniel Di Bartolo
    Daniel Di Bartolo Member, Logos Employee Posts: 326

    Im not sure who made the decision to force full screen only on us, but, in my opinion, it was a poor one. At this point all one can do is WATCH...one can't take notes, highlight, read long in the transcripts, look up Bible verses in a Bible...nothing. Just....watch. Ugh,

    As you mentioned, this is an often suggested feature-- and something that we should definitely have. Improvements to the Mobile Ed experience are one of our priorities in the next year. 

  • JT (alabama24)
    JT (alabama24) MVP Posts: 36,512

    And, if you close the other panes of the same Bible, it is not opening a new one for me.

    OK, I am seeing this now, which means that the original bug has been fixed. Good news! The bug you found, however, still needs to be fixed. 

    macOS, iOS & iPadOS |Logs| Install
    truth over tribe

  • Davy Wang
    Davy Wang Member Posts: 51

    Hi Daniel Di Bartolo,

    This is David Wang, a long time Logos user of PC & Android devices.

    So happy that your excellent team is creating an even better app for users.

    I'm really looking forward that it contains one function for us. Is it possible to add the chang contents fonts function to LogosNext V6 ?

    Especially in Android platform, just let it can choose Android embedded system fonts ( or can with additional function that allow user to define the fonts' patch, then utilize the fonts in the app ).

    If it's possible would be great help for long time reading in Android devices.

    Thank you very much!

    Best regards.

    David.

  • Richard Bonjour
    Richard Bonjour Member Posts: 180 ✭✭

    Daniel, I would love to be envoled for the public beta release as well. Was envoled in the other format betas, and would like to be apart of this as well. 

  • Andrew116
    Andrew116 Member Posts: 155

    Trying the new update. The animation of opening a new tab and changing tabs by swiping is really great. Much easier to visualise what is happening. 

    The highlighting  bug is back however. 

  • André Kamphuis
    André Kamphuis Member Posts: 230 ✭✭

    Provide feedback and bug reports on LogosNext V6 here. You need to be invited to join the LogosNext Beta. We'll be releasing a public Beta soon. 

    Hi Daniel, could I please be invited to join this Beta as well? Thanks! André Kamphuis

  • Kevin A. Purcell
    Kevin A. Purcell Member Posts: 3,408 ✭✭✭

    I’ve noticed that on my iPad Pro, the syncing of the screens is great. I have my Bible and note open in one screen and commentary on another one. However, I hate having to tap to bring up the toolbar at the bottom where I can switch screens. I can use a two finger swipe to switch quickly, but that’s not obvious. I’d like to be able to turn on the toolbars and leave them on all the time. I think that was possible on the current stable release. If it is on the Next beta, I can’t find it.

    Dr. Kevin Purcell, Director of Missions
    Brushy Mountain Baptist Association

    www.kevinpurcell.org

  • David Gayle Woods
    David Gayle Woods Member Posts: 34 ✭✭

    With the most recent beta, tapping on the devotional reading from the homescreen will open the devotional, but then you are immediately taken back to the homescreen - causing a bit of visual whiplash.

    Concerning the image of the day… if you have the app in splitview, taking up 1/3rd of the screen and tap the image (which has been resized to fit the available width) to view it by itself, the image in the window now opened is cut off. I played around with opening some of the images from other apps while in splitview. Those images are cut off a bit, but also seem to resize somewhat so that they don’t appear to be cut off as bad. But… the difference may be more in that the image of the day is landscape orientation and these other images are more portrait sized.