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  • Steve Maling
    Steve Maling Member Posts: 737 ✭✭

    Parallel alignment of the Greek words (not just pericopes) in Aland's Synopsis of the Four Gospels. Some years ago (Logos 4? Logos 5?) it was possible to set Burton's Harmony of the Synoptic Gospels to Greek to disclose the varying word, clause, and sentence orders within parallel pericopes. An English example is Throckmorton's Gospel Parallels which appears to be no longer available.

  • Harry Hahne
    Harry Hahne Member Posts: 967 ✭✭✭

    Parallel alignment of the Greek words (not just pericopes) in Aland's Synopsis of the Four Gospels.

    Yes! [Y]

    The utility of the print edition is considerably greater than the Logos digital edition due to the alignment between Greek (and English) words.

  • Bernhard
    Bernhard Member Posts: 729 ✭✭✭

    Nick said:

    This has probably already been requested by now...  but the ability to import Sermons from .docx files in order to have them searchable under "my content."   

    Not sure, if you know that you can already import sermons as personal books. See this page for details: https://wiki.logos.com/Sermon_and_Illustration_Support (and this one for more general information about personal books: https://wiki.logos.com/personal_books in case you need it).

  • David Betts
    David Betts Member Posts: 99 ✭✭

    Although I have MW11, CED, and COED prioritized, often MW10 pops up when a word is double clicked, although that word is in MW11. This needs fixed.

    Option for a keyboard keystroke to start OR pause [Ctrl / Cmd+R] when reading aloud is enabled. Normally space bar = page-down. When reading aloud, space bar could (should) be enabled to be used for pause/restart, as in VLC player. This would be very handy.

    Also while reading aloud there is a much-too-long-pause between chapters when on iPhone HotSpot. Sometimes I must hit pause then play more than twice to restart after chapter pause.

    This reiterates the need to have ESV, for example, to be downloaded to device [I have plenty of room] to prevent such long pauses and use up limited data plan. [DLO = DownLoadOnce].

    Logos Phrasebook

    Right click on a word and an option is “Look up.” But when two words together are highlighted “Look up” is not an option: e.g. rex socius  [A History of the New Testament Times...]. This is another example of words or phrases in Logos resources that should be defined within a Logos dictionary or Phrasebook without requiring “outside assistance.” Words not found in any Logos dictionary or encyclopedia should be included in this Phrasebook. (what's in Logos should be defined within Logos).

     

  • David Betts
    David Betts Member Posts: 99 ✭✭

    My apologies:  My comment about a Logos Phrasebook was premature. Right click on two words, then in pop-up window: Search: then scroll down to "all resources" or "everything." This will find more info although some is in Latin or Greek, etc.

    [What's in Logos should stay in Logos]

  • Julian West
    Julian West Member Posts: 27 ✭✭
    • Google shouldn't be able to find Bible text better than my Logos Platinum 

    • Get logs out of Documents.  I've had to modify security permissions to prevent Logos from logging there and keeping OneDrive busy and triggering conflicts when I move between desktop, laptop, and Surface

    • Memorization tool based on Leitner's spaced repetition

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  • David Betts
    David Betts Member Posts: 99 ✭✭

    [What's in Logos should stay in Logos]

    “hic noster Hierosolymarius”

    (https://ref.ly/logosres/hsnttmsjss?ref=VolumePage.V+1%2c+p+210&off=39)

    For Logos to be more useful would be for phrases like this to be found in a Logos Phrasebook. I have spent a few futile minutes with no success to find a definition on the web or in Logos. Any and all words or phrases in Logos should be defined therein. Undefined words and phrases leaves the understanding incomplete - unacceptable for what we spend on Logos.

    [New discoveries like this goes into my Note file "New Words and Phrases" for future reference

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    Search assistant option to use OR not as desired (annoying when power user typing search parameters has to wait for automatic assistant) => BUG: *Seriously annoying* search-box behavior 

    One more thread about automatic search assistance annoyance => Auto-populating: why so slow???!!!

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  • Unix
    Unix Member Posts: 2,192 ✭✭✭
    • Discontinue all or almost all of the Portfolio -levels of Libraries. Why? The push seems to be towards offering this level for most of the denominational lines and also the standard line. There must be a limited number outright purchases of this level of a very broad bundle and they seem to be so broad that I think other, more specific or discounted bundles should suffice for potential customers of all the Portfolio -levels. And then there's Collector's but that's fine: A few will want to do a large purchase in one go not having to to piece it together and and for them who can do it it's a cheaper way in the very long run, to get a very large library, than piecemeal purchase of collections and bundles, so they should have this option left still. However, there doesn't need to be anything in between Diamond and Collector's. For those who simply can't afford Collector's there's still two options: Either buy two different Diamond Libraries, or buy one Diamond Library now, and during the next major version after that upgrade with yet another for example Diamond Level library. So with a discontinuation of Portfolio I would expect only some amazement regarding the step taken, not much dissatisfaction if the decision would have been combined with making some Diamond level Libraries even better than now, for Logos 8 and Verbum 8.
    • Keep up the good work of re-shuffling low- and mid-level base-packages. It was succesfull in version 7: Like I wished for during the previous phase of polling for opinions for the major forthcoming version i.e. 7, academic titles were introduced on low levels and there's more scholarly quality/freshness in mid-level (which also two Years having elapsed demands), without an overdose of commentaries, yet there's still something for a start. I made the bulk of my base-package purchases since L2 (Lvl 4 and Catholic Collection) and L4 OLL, under this current version 7 which shows my contentment. I'm a person who is not easily convinced or easily fooled, so please whatever You do, DON'T emphasize the total number of resources new to a user - at least not as a plain number under a certain level - put a disclaimer on all the base-package product pages advising something to the effect that the sheer number of volumes is not to be taken as (the only) indication of suitability (this would also make it easier to talk to those totally unfamiliar with Bible Study software or who don't collect books, about the benefits when the simple number of total resources doesn't shine through too glaringly), - because that number is non-desriptive of both value and quality.
      To me, choosing commentaries is akin to choosing English Bible versions. Please don't over-stuff the Christmas surprise sock with full or NT-only commentary -sets and English Bibles!! They are really a major turn-off for me!! I mean this. I just won't buy if NIV11 and CSB16 are both there in most base-packages. If You can't think of any other way: Please make base-packages slightly customizable: That customer can when wanting to order drop off one or two English Bible versions for a $1 deduction each, and drop off one NT-only-commentary set for a deduction of 1/33 of the regular price. Those droped off ones would not even technically be licensed. I can't find interest in any of the major sets that don't have under my own main account that I actually use in Bronze-Gold, particularly Standard-line Libraries, partially because I have some of that elsewhere under other platforms and some printed matter.
      Please highlight more of the very most recent and top-pick content! As of now a handful of resources shows at once with a picture on the base-package product-pages, that's not enough, it would also be better to for example put all resources written and copyrighted in 2013 and newer in bold font, except English Bibles, to make it easier for those who lack enough time eyeing the list or those like me who will do a thorough calculation if enticed but for now only want a very quick glance.
    • Find a way, if You really want to You can, to produce Encyclopedia Britannica 1911 Edition. It doesn't have to happen soon, but for funding it please find ways and please produce it at a much higher price than the current projected price! https://www.logos.com/product/33266/encyclopedia-britannica
    • Don't forget needs to pull water from the wells of non-Scriptural-canon (i.e. Ecclesiasticus, Jewish Pseudepigrapha, Christian "Gnosticism") and secular POW:s and scholarship to the extent it can be made efficiently accessible, packeted and sold i.e. I'm not talking individual cherry-picking of books: I wished for this on Dec. 13. 2016: More non-biblical databases Please throw together some a bit unique databases or some crowd-source-curated or Faithlife/Noet-hand-curated resorce collection that also includes something from ebooks.noet.com
    • Allow visibility in search-results of what has been newly added to the library: I would like to see a mode added as a feature, when searching collections, where it would be possible for results to be highlighted or categorized, I would like to have favourite searches (i.e. with search terms) saved and whenever I add a new resource to the collection (either manually or when I've bought a new resource that goes under the collection) the search results that come from those newly added resources, would be marked as "new". I suggested this too on Dec. 13. 2016: highlight searches in collections 
    • Mouse over Church Father reference - pop-ups from Worship Early Church: Anthology Historical Sources It's about the resource: Worship in the Early Church: An Anthology of Historical Sources, www.logos.com/product/31154/worship-in-the-early-church-an-anthology-of-historical-sources which I would like to compete with that ordinary ECF:s -series that has long been widely available.
      I want Logos to enable that when I have prioritised something in the Worship in the Early Church -series, that references to certain Church Fathers verses, would pop up from it, when hovering the mouse over a reference. I originally suggested this in Nov. 2013. I'm sure this would be a LOT more appreciated feature than the current vote-count tells, I guess this set also sold something when it was featured during one of the Months last Autumn.
    • Almost last but not least: Even though it has at the moment slowed down: Please further slow down putting new titles to start to gather interest on pre-pub. It will not pay to put through new books with a constant high pace. There are costs that can't be avoided: Such as negotations for whether a resource is candidate for that in the first place, writing good product pages (good such pages in itself is an asset of Faithlife), manhours for deciding all the prices and the progressivity of it. And a product that doesn't make it, causes disappointment - now that can't be avoided and it may be even more disapointment if a resource was never even a candidate in pre-pub, but still: No matter how few of the total number of books can even be spoken of in the same sentence, we already have many tens of thousands live products in the store-fronts, they are so many that Faithlife WILL struggle a bit to manage all that's already available.
      Maintaining what's being offered costs and I think that's the least avoidable factor of all things.
      So what I mean is: Just because a product probably will make it through the funding through pre-pub doesn't make it self-evident in the least that it must be put there in the first place. Please scrutinize before testing the waters with too many items!
      Once the products ship they are there forever, sometimes requiring maintenance, sometimes incurring costs and often having to be re-negotiated with publishers becaus of some espect be it quality, price/share, marketing, bundling, etcetera. Hundreds of almost identical choices for one popular topic or book of the Bible will also eventually be more of a turn-off for some than attract customers who really want to spend.
    • So instead of trying to introduce more that can potentially (i.e. just theoretically) be bought, hone the product, put a lot of work into quality re-shuffling so that the real value and benefit of what's being marketed the most stays high. I commend You for having made the software a bit faster - which I know was very hard and peristent work and for which we can also be to some part thankful to the (potential of and ongoing development of the programming-environment of) operating systems.
    • Instead of the usual generally aggressive approach and development, take a step back. Don't be in constant fear of the size of the ship: I can imagine what it feels like to have such a multifaceted product with maintenance costs and dependant mostly on demanding customers with thousands of $$ to put into it each. But just let go of some of the fear anyway because the current picture You get of Faithlife as a customer from how it is to be one on a practical level having to for example comb through the store and forums at least Weekly is that what's offered and particularly what's potentially offered new, changes constantly in so unpredictable ways, that it's a bit hard to know what to even wish for regarding new books. So many different approaches to marketing and sales-campaigns and bundles has already been tried out, that I would suggest You look a bit at what worked and do that again! A large part of customers will notice when both the company is happy and the customer is happy. To make room for what works, stop with some that feels like mandatory and traditions. Don't be a slave to two-Year major version releseas: It's unsustainable: Some base-packages are still with version 6 features and You want to put through version 8 in less than a Year? There are more base-packages being assembled than ever before and You renew them as fast as ever? I don't think that's sustainable, do You? I know sometimes overly long contracts can in themselves be more effort but I doubt impossible! Two Years just seems a short time for bundling-contracts, although I'm not specialized in that. But with the growing platform and abundance of choices and how it showed in that Journal bundles took a while to produce, I still suspect two Years honestly is a bit too short time for a new major version release! I know feature-wise it's more floating now with Logos Now and Verbum Now - I'm a customer.
    • Oh, and make a separate column for prioritizing Scripture, under the Library -button in the desktop software. Or at least that's what I would use, and make the Scripture prioritations easily sharable through Documents or faithlife.com (as You can tell I use different versions for different parts).

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  • Mobile annoyance => Merry Christmas, Copy and Paste with References is Here!

    Mobile User Voice suggestion from Apr 2013 has 77 votes (# 17 overall) => https://logosmobile.uservoice.com/forums/190765-logos-mobile-apps/suggestions/3808513-copy-paste-with-reference-so-when-posting-the

    Noticed some mobile suggestions with fewer votes have been started.

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  • Rick Ausdahl
    Rick Ausdahl Member Posts: 1,722 ✭✭✭

    I would like a program option for ALL RESOURCE SETTINGS to be LAYOUT SPECIFIC.

    This may well have already been requested (perhaps by me [*-)]), but by the very nature of what a layout is and the purpose it serves, it seems only logical to me that resource settings should be layout specific--or ...at least have an option to work that way in program settings.

    WHY?  Here are just a couple of reasons.

    1. I may want a resource to be included in multi-view in one layout, but not in another.
    2. I may want the text size of a resource to be smaller in one layout than in another, simply because less space is allocated to the resource in one layout than another.
    3. I may want one form of interlinear display used in one layout, but a different form (or no interlinear at all) in another layout. 
    4. I may want different visual filters for a resource in one layout than in another, based on the purpose of the layout.

  • Tes
    Tes Member Posts: 4,035 ✭✭✭

    Blessings in Christ.

  • JT (alabama24)
    JT (alabama24) MVP Posts: 36,523

    Tes said:

    I wish Visual copy for Personal book.

    This has long been possible. If you are having troubles with it, please create a new thread and provide appropriate details 

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  • Tes
    Tes Member Posts: 4,035 ✭✭✭

    alabama24 said:

    Tes said:

    I wish Visual copy for Personal book.

    This has long been possible. If you are having troubles with it, please create a new thread and provide appropriate details 

    Wow , thank you Alabama. And thank you Faithlife. I did n't know that. 

    Blessings in Christ.

  • Sean Boisen
    Sean Boisen Member, Logos Employee Posts: 1,452

    1. The fuzzy Bible search is lousy. The response to a lot of early feedback was defensive and mostly just repeated that what we really wanted from the function was not possible with the way it was built. I am sorry you wasted time and money building it in a way that is not compatible with basic user requests, but that does not change the need to look at those requests and go back to the drawing board.

    Justin: thanks for the frank feedback. I'd love to hear your ideas about where fuzzy Bible search falls short: can you elaborate? (feel free to start a new Forum thread on this topic if appropriate)

  • Sean Boisen
    Sean Boisen Member, Logos Employee Posts: 1,452

    Andrew116 said:

    Further on the theme of 'don't give us new features, make the program better to use'...

    Frequently I look things up in topic guide and factbook and find no results, or very limited results, even though dictionaries in my library do have entries on exactly that topic. 

    For example, yesterday I looked up the Council of Nicea. It returned 2 journal articles (great!) and nothing else.  It should have found at least some of the following: (but it didn't)

    So 1 thing on my wishlist is that Factbook better helps me find the things I already have. As I said before, it doesn't sound as good in marketing language as '10,000 new features'... but when people find the software really helpful, they will tell their friends / peers... it will sell. 

    Andrew: thanks for these examples. For the first case, I believe we haven't yet done the processing to integrate this resource into Factbook: I've asked that we queue it for processing. The second and third are data bugs: we haven't captured the spelling difference of Nicea vs Nicaea, or the naming difference of Nicene Councils (we also have separate pages for First Council of Nicaea and Second Council of Nicaea: these should at least be linked to the others). We'll get these fixed.

    The last one isn't found because it's a subsection of an article about Christology: i don't see us solving that problem anytime soon. However, for these kinds of historical events, you can find the event on the timeline, and a right-click will give you a list of all mentions of the date that we've been able to identify as related. That's not a great answer, and not the same as pointing to reference content on that subject. But it may be helpful in some cases.

    We want Factbook to be a great first stop for researching topics in Logos, so please pass along other cases where Factbook is falling short, or other suggestions for how to improve it.

  • Sean Boisen
    Sean Boisen Member, Logos Employee Posts: 1,452

    - PLEASE Correct the Before and After:Biblical Sites that shows the Temple being built in place of the Dome of the Rock. The true location of the Temple was at the City of David, approximately ½ kilometer NEAR the Gihon Springs.  PLEASE do some honest research. This is WW3 material as shown!

    David, we're looking into this.

    - A “Global Back Button / key-combo.” For example, I click a link from m.Ed video to go to another resource, and then another, then lose my way back.

    Does Tools/History do what you want? (i know it's not a button)

  • Armin
    Armin Member Posts: 1,520 ✭✭✭

    For me, the single most important wish is to improve usability, especially when it comes to searches. If we could get Google-like searches in Logos, this would be amazing. 

  • Sean Boisen
    Sean Boisen Member, Logos Employee Posts: 1,452

    Parallel alignment of the Greek words (not just pericopes) in Aland's Synopsis of the Four Gospels.

    Yes! Yes

    The utility of the print edition is considerably greater than the Logos digital edition due to the alignment between Greek (and English) words.

    This is different than your request, but the Parallel Gospel Reader interactive can highlight matching words (dynamically). It only supports English texts at present: but you can select Aland's Synopsis (in English) at the top, hover over a word in one column, and the matching words in the other columns are highlighted.

    You can also link this panel to another panel (like Aland's Greek synopsis): that won't show highlights, but it will at least scroll to the right position.

    Word-level alignment of the Gospels is on our internal wishlist as well.

  • Sean Boisen
    Sean Boisen Member, Logos Employee Posts: 1,452

    scooter said:

    ...

    Searching in Logos is entirely lost on me.  I simply refuse to learn all the squiggles necessary.  I would have to make a cheat sheet and keep it updated; the thought of all this makes me sigh.

    ...

    I would volunteer to be a SIMPLICITY TESTER for this endeavor.  Set up a Simplicity Beta and let us test drive it.

    Scooter, I appreciate the suggestion, and I agree that we'd like to make Logos search simpler.

    Since you volunteered: can you look at our existing cheat sheet (what comes up when you click on the Search icon but haven't started a search yet: we call that the Search Cookbook) and give us feedback on how you would improve it? We've made it so you can click an example (the blue text), and then tailor as desired.

    (more when you scroll down ...)

  • Ben
    Ben Member Posts: 1,806 ✭✭✭

    I'd like to be able to arrange my commentaries in the library by canonical order, with the option between Jewish, Protestant, and Catholic (with deutero-canonical books) order

    "The whole modern world has divided itself into Conservatives and Progressives. The business of Progressives is to go on making mistakes. The business of Conservatives is to prevent mistakes from being corrected."- G.K. Chesterton

  • Steve Maling
    Steve Maling Member Posts: 737 ✭✭

    Sean,

    I am much encouraged that, "Word-level alignment of the Gospels is on our internal wishlist as well." I am especally encouraged because once upon a time, was it back in Logos 4?, Burton's Harmony could be set to Greek. May recovery of this capability be fast fast-tracked!

  • Rick Brannan (Logos)
    Rick Brannan (Logos) Member, Logos Employee Posts: 1,862

    Sean,

    I am much encouraged that, "Word-level alignment of the Gospels is on our internal wishlist as well." I am especally encouraged because once upon a time, was it back in Logos 4?, Burton's Harmony could be set to Greek. May recovery of this capability be fast fast-tracked!

    Hi Steve.

    This capability is already present in the Parallel Gospel Reader interactive. Hover one column, and aligned terms in other columns are highlighted. You can switch the translation to whatever you'd like as well.

    There is similar functionality in the New Testament Use of the Old Testament Interactive and the Synopsis of Samuel, Kings, and Chronicles Interactive.

    Rick Brannan
    Data Wrangler, Faithlife
    My books in print

  • Steve Maling
    Steve Maling Member Posts: 737 ✭✭

    Thank you, Rick,

    Obviously I hadn't looked in the right place[:(] Once again I am thankful to have learned of riches still undiscovered in Logos, in spite of time spent with training videos and Morris' print volumes. Obviously not enough time spent! Thanks again to you, to Sean, and to the unnumbered host of your colleagues of various specialties and supportive tasks.

    Shalom, shalom

  • Roger Duke
    Roger Duke Member Posts: 10 ✭✭

    Hi, not sure this thread is still alive and kicking, but ...

    Many great suggestions especially the scrolling popup!

    My two cents ...

    Add a master link - others have called it a master sync.

    Reason being is Multiview is too limited if you're working with many resources - you don't want all the resources open but you do want quick access.  In my case I use dual large monitors and typically have about 30 resources tabbed.  I want everything synced to my bible verse and only update when the verse changes.  As it stands now, anytime I scroll in one of the commentaries or other resources ALL other windows scroll.  If I click on a commentary where that particular book is missing from the series (frequently happens) then all resources will jump to the wrong book (whatever was last active on that resource) and I have to go back to my bible resource to reset to the desired verse.

    Of course, I want to scroll in the commentaries at will, but only need everything to sync when the bible verse changes.  

  • Jessica Parks
    Jessica Parks Member, Logos Employee Posts: 37

    - PLEASE Correct the Before and After:Biblical Sites that shows the Temple being built in place of the Dome of the Rock. The true location of the Temple was at the City of David, approximately ½ kilometer NEAR the Gihon Springs.  PLEASE do some honest research. This is WW3 material as shown!

    Hi David,

    Thank you for your feedback. Our designs in the Before and After: Biblical Sites for Jerusalem are based off of the work of Dr. Daniel Warner and reflect the traditional view on the location of the Temple. 

  • Warren Dane
    Warren Dane Member Posts: 75 ✭✭

    With the set use ngen to yes entered in the command box Logos loads within 10 secs. I still find that Logos loads very slow (1 min+) after entering the command in the box if I start Logos some time later or the next day. Apparently the command works only if used immediately. Load time is as much as 1 minute of more. Can the "Set use Ngen to Yes" command be incorporated into Logos 8 so it works every time Logos is opened?

  • Jeremiah
    Jeremiah Member Posts: 399 ✭✭
    • How about ability to add images to notes?
    • Also would like to be able to have more control over import / export features from notes (i.e. I want to search on highlight x, then move all those highlights to new custom note file blah.... which I'll share with my congregation).
    • ability to tell ios/android devices to index (even if takes massive storage) lexicons etc. so no need to be online to do morpho lookups or definition lookups

    Dead languages are my mid-life crisis

  • scooter
    scooter Member Posts: 781 ✭✭

    Wish for 2 darker shades of grey that I can use as background to ease my eyes.

    What FL calls grey, + I use now, is too light.

  • Reuben Helmuth
    Reuben Helmuth MVP Posts: 2,485

    The following uservoice suggestion (that I created nearly three years ago!) is still at the top of my wishlist.

    https://logos.uservoice.com/forums/42823-logos-bible-software-7/suggestions/7592991-search-for-hebrew-vowel-points-cantillation-marks#comments 

    I realize there have been small steps made since the creation of the suggestion, but I would really like to see it become full-fledged enough to support combining morph, nikkud, and te-amim searches. Also I want to see it using the UI of the morph search rather than the Syntax search.

  • Reuben Helmuth
    Reuben Helmuth MVP Posts: 2,485

    Here's another item on my wish list:

    https://logos.uservoice.com/forums/42823-logos-bible-software-7/suggestions/4293374-allow-users-to-customize-shortcut-bar-icons 

    I would really like to be able to add system and/or custom icons. Additionally (and perhaps more importantly), I would like to see the ability to add popover buttons (folders) into which I could drag my shortcuts. This would provide a lot more space on the shortcut bar since a person could have one popover for all books he/she is currently reading, one popover for all system preference shortcuts, etc, etc... 

    This cannot be a programming difficulty unless I'm seriously mistaken. Please, please give us the ability to declutter!!

  • scooter
    scooter Member Posts: 781 ✭✭

    I would like the ability to make the background darker.  FL calls the darkest available background ''grey.''  I call it light grey, almost a bit mauve. Its tooo light.

    I would like to have 2 successively darker greys I can option to.  This way, I can sooth my avid eyes as I learn!

  • Lindsay, Jeffrey
    Lindsay, Jeffrey Member Posts: 1 ✭✭

    Need Apple pen support. This would help a great deal in note taking 

  • DMB
    DMB Member Posts: 14,403 ✭✭✭✭

    scooter said:

    I would like the ability to make the background darker.  FL calls the darkest available background ''grey.''  I call it light grey, almost a bit mauve. Its tooo light.

    I would like to have 2 successively darker greys I can option to.  This way, I can sooth my avid eyes as I learn!

    You already requested that. In a wishlist, you only get 1 wish and no duplicates.

    Plus, your sundown grey clashes with Logos gunbarrel grey. Logos would never agree to that. Maybe you were thinking midnight grey, or alternatively cement grey. As a workaround, closing your eyes also works, when Logos seems too bright, though granted, reduced functionality.

    My humor is only due to the repeated request through the years. It's so easy, one has to assume an emotional stubbornness in Logosland.

    "If myth is ideology in narrative form, then scholarship is myth with footnotes." B. Lincolm 1999.

  • DMB
    DMB Member Posts: 14,403 ✭✭✭✭

    - PLEASE Correct the Before and After:Biblical Sites that shows the Temple being built in place of the Dome of the Rock. The true location of the Temple was at the City of David, approximately ½ kilometer NEAR the Gihon Springs.  PLEASE do some honest research. This is WW3 material as shown!

    Hi David,

    Thank you for your feedback. Our designs in the Before and After: Biblical Sites for Jerusalem are based off of the work of Dr. Daniel Warner and reflect the traditional view on the location of the Temple. 

    Totally off-track, and I personally have never been to the House of YHWH from Solomon's days, but Jeremiah notes the palace was well below the temple. Moving off 'temple mount' forces the palace pretty far down the hill.  

    Ok, back to the wish list.

    "If myth is ideology in narrative form, then scholarship is myth with footnotes." B. Lincolm 1999.

  • scooter
    scooter Member Posts: 781 ✭✭

    Denise said:

    My humor is only due to the repeated request through the years. It's so easy, one has to assume an emotional stubbornness in Logosland.

    Yeah, coz a free site allows one's darkness of choice, so I figured FL could so engineer.  WS is just as stubborn. 

    [And I still cannot hi-lite a superscript in FL.]

    FL does indeed have emotional arthritis.  But, closing my eyes makes FL go away!!  As an alternative to both FL + WS, I buy some kindle Christian material + read it over the black background.

    Sundown gray is indeed its colour + insufficiently goth-dark.

    Thanx 4 the laughs, Denise!

  • Pastor Michael Huffman
    Pastor Michael Huffman Member Posts: 449 ✭✭

    Everyone knows about the manuscript options on the Exegetical guide and how you can bring up and look at the actual Greek Manuscript online and also look at the transcription on the text as well. 

    My thought (and this is not original, I got it from Accordance 12.2), is to bring in an internal browser into the software. So that when you click on one of the texts, it will open in a browser within the program and not open a separate browser outside of the software. And then what you can do in Accordance with the internal browser is to click on a Greek word in the original and then it puts a box around the same Greek word in the transcription for easier location of the Greek word you are studying. 

    Hope this makes sense and I think that would be a good feature for those of us "Geeks" who like to study the Greek Manuscripts. 

  • Genghis
    Genghis Member Posts: 232 ✭✭

    Just uploaded the source document for Hebrew Calendar Year 5778. 

  • Kiyah
    Kiyah Member Posts: 2,838 ✭✭✭✭

    Make notes documents and clippings documents one thing.

    This may have already been suggested but I think clipping documents and notes documents should be one thing to which you can add clippings and manually add free-standing notes. I know I can add notes to the bottom of a clipping, but sometimes I just want to add a note that has nothing to do with any of the clippings I may have added.

    That would help me keep all my research in one place when I'm working on a paper, rather than having notes and highlights in one file and clippings in another.

    Or if you could at least add an "add note" button to the clippings document screen that would be extremely helpful.

  • Graham Criddle
    Graham Criddle MVP Posts: 33,256

    Kiyah said:

    Make notes documents and clippings documents one thing.

    This may have already been suggested but I think clipping documents and notes documents should be one thing to which you can add clippings and manually add free-standing notes. I know I can add notes to the bottom of a clipping, but sometimes I just want to add a note that has nothing to do with any of the clippings I may have added.

    With the new Notes / Clipping functionality Logos are working on - see https://community.logos.com/forums/p/143660/905035.aspx#905035 and elsewhere for some context- I think the difference between Notes and Clippings is going to effectively disappear

    You can get a sense for how this tool will work on the web app - app.logos.com - which is where the development started. It is not fully featured yet - and notes do not sync between desktop environment and the web environment yet but I think this should give you what you are looking for when it is fully developed and rolled out.

  • Kiyah
    Kiyah Member Posts: 2,838 ✭✭✭✭

    With the new Notes / Clipping functionality Logos are working on - see https://community.logos.com/forums/p/143660/905035.aspx#905035 and elsewhere for some context- I think the difference between Notes and Clippings is going to effectively disappear

    You can get a sense for how this tool will work on the web app - app.logos.com - which is where the development started. It is not fully featured yet - and notes do not sync between desktop environment and the web environment yet but I think this should give you what you are looking for when it is fully developed and rolled out.

    Cool, good to know. Thanks for the info!

  • William Walker
    William Walker Member Posts: 95 ✭✭

    Hi Phil,

    Here are 3 areas I would like to see change in version 8.

    1. As many others have already mentioned Touch support for the desktop application.  My primary device that I carry with me everywhere is an 8 inch Windows 10 tablet (HP Pro Tablet 608 G1).  The touch in the current version works well for me in most scenarios but it is still only half-baked when you wouldn't expect it to be.  Everything touch enabled in version 8 would be great.

    2. In regards to running on an 8 inch tablet with a large library (about 68gb footprint on an 128gb hard drive) I regurlary run into re-indexing issues due to space constraints.  Because I'm primarily using the tablet for reading and light study I don't need all of my resources installed locally and constantly being updated and reindexed with every update.  I would therefore like to propose a Limited Storage Mode for the desktop app for scenarios like my own.  The Limited Storage Mode would treat resources similarly to the way they are handled with iOS devices in that resources are all available but not all stored locally by default.  I would have to instruct a resource to download locally (just like the iOS resources) in order to cache it on my local drive.  I realize I'm probably in the minority for having such a large library but this issue actually keeps me from buying more resources since at some point my tablet will become unusable due to the size of my library growing beyond capacity.  I was hoping with the proliferation of smaller form windows tablets a few years back that they would by now offer tablets with more RAM and higher capacity storage.  Quite the opposite has happened though and most OEM's seem to have pulled back from this market and capacity has actually shrunk for the most part.  Anyway, the bottom line is it would be nice to have a Limited Storage Mode for the desktop app so it could "fit" on practically any Windows device.  I know there is an option to hide resources but that would hide them from every device I own and would be annoying when I'm studying with Logos on my power desktop with "unlimited resources."

    3. Lastly I would hope that the desktop app UI be modernized, simplified and allow for customization.  Simplification could be handled by providing a more configurable settings page so that features that are seldom used except in more academic scenarios could only be turned on when needed.  The UI itself seems a little long in the tooth, though in some areas it has a more modern feel.  Those inconsistencies also show up as previously mentioned about the touch interface.  It would be nice to have every interaction with the UI behave in a well thought out and consistent manner.  As far as customization I don't have any suggestions per se other than perhaps giving us a little more control over context menus, main menu items, and toolbars and sorting.

    All that being said the Logos desktop app in it's current version is truly a well designed, powerful and helpful app for research and studying God's word when you invest the time to learn it's features.  It took me a while but it was well worth the time.

    Thank you Logos for your commitment to helping us in our endeavor to "rightly divide the word of truth."

    Sincerely,

    William

  • Bradley Grainger (Logos)
    Bradley Grainger (Logos) Administrator, Logos Employee Posts: 12,127

    1. As many others have already mentioned Touch support for the desktop application.

    We'll post any news about improvements to touch support to this suggestion: https://logos.uservoice.com/forums/42823-logos-bible-software-7/suggestions/619605-focus-on-tablet-and-touchscreen-features 

    2. In regards to running on an 8 inch tablet with a large library (about 68gb footprint on an 128gb hard drive) I regurlary run into re-indexing issues due to space constraints.

    Updates will be posted here: https://logos.uservoice.com/forums/42823-logos-bible-software-6/suggestions/5751660-install-only-selected-resources-to-save-disk-space 

  • Jit
    Jit Member Posts: 2 ✭✭

    Mobile ed videos does not properly download to my macbook (model from last year). I wish that the interface of the mobile ed on the macbook would be similar to that in my ipad- there is clear indication if the videos are downloaded properly.

    Quite a hassle to travel with both devices or just with my macbook to discover the videos are not downloaded properly and need a wifi . Or with my iPad and can't access the text and videos at the same time. 

    Thanks,

    Jit

  • James Walraven
    James Walraven Member Posts: 2 ✭✭

    Wish: the return of full color customization.  I am a legally blind pastor who has been on Logos 3 for a very long time.  I went to upgrade (at long last) to Logos 7 today, but contrary to what I was told, discovered that while the color of books can still be adjusted, most of the other screens are now hard coded black text on white background.  Unfortunately, any significant white background will cause my eyes to fatigue in about 5 minutes.  While I was thankful for the refund, sadly, for me, the current version of Logos software is quite unusable.  As long as my very old secondary XP computer functions I will have Logos, but when it dies, that will be that (newer computer is Windows 7).

  • Phil Gons (Logos)
    Phil Gons (Logos) Administrator, Logos Employee Posts: 3,803

    Wish: the return of full color customization.  I am a legally blind pastor who has been on Logos 3 for a very long time.  I went to upgrade (at long last) to Logos 7 today, but contrary to what I was told, discovered that while the color of books can still be adjusted, most of the other screens are now hard coded black text on white background.  Unfortunately, any significant white background will cause my eyes to fatigue in about 5 minutes.  While I was thankful for the refund, sadly, for me, the current version of Logos software is quite unusable.  As long as my very old secondary XP computer functions I will have Logos, but when it dies, that will be that (newer computer is Windows 7).

    James, thank you for taking the time to share this feedback. I'm sorry Logos 7 wasn't usable for you. Can you spell out in a little more detail exactly what you'd need to find Logos usable? A global setting to change the text color and the background color for all panels/screens? Anything else? What color combinations do you prefer?

  • Thread => Low light or night modes? includes User Voice links to a number of color combination suggestions. Black background with white (or colored text, especially yellow) has better contrast for reading. Gray on gray can be cool looking while difficult to read.

    Diabetic Retinopathy is one form of blindness => https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Diabetic_retinopathy (that is affecting one of my friends so Logos has become unusable)

    Age-Related Macular Degeneration (ARMD) is another form of blindness => https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Macular_degeneration

    Keep Smiling [:)]

  • Reuben Helmuth
    Reuben Helmuth MVP Posts: 2,485

    Add a master link - others have called it a master sync.

    Yes, please add the ability to designate any (and any number of) resources in a link-set as a slave, as well as the ability to set a single resource as the master (effectively making all others 'slaves'). Any resource would have 3 values Master/Default/Slave.

  • James Walraven
    James Walraven Member Posts: 2 ✭✭

    Phil, thank you for your response.  I would think that a global setting to change text and background color for all panels/screens would work (images/pictures remaining unchanged is something I can live with as they are not that common in the texts).  The color scheme that I prefer is a light green (custom color) on a black background.  Bright colors in general - yellow, orange, red, etc., do not work for me as excessive brightness is the main display issue (along with too tiny fonts).  That is also why I go the custom route in Windows 7 under the classic shell - the inverted color options Microsoft offered still had too many bright colors after inversion.

    I also realize Logos, and companies in general, are in a difficult spot.  There are so many different visual impairments and as they impact each person differently it is difficult to take them all into account (coding does cost $).  It also does not help that since XP, Microsoft has been gradually removing the excellent features and flexibility they used to offer for dealing with visual impairments.  Of note, for those who are totally blind, Windows 10 is reported to be the poorest o/s they have produced.