Propositional Filter VF term "Supplied" not always present when expected to be

Graham Criddle
Graham Criddle MVP Posts: 33,137
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As per discussion at https://community.logos.com/forums/p/158670/951406.aspx#951406 there are a number of cases where the Propositional Outline term "Supplied" is not shown when words have been added in translation

Below is one example of this as discussed in the other thread

Is this because the words are included within an characterisation - in this case "Precedent", a tagging omission or something else?

Thanks, Graham

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  • Andrew Batishko
    Andrew Batishko Member, Community Manager, Logos Employee Posts: 5,468

    Supplied words aren't tagged in the dataset, since the Propositional Outline data is tagged on the original language words (allowing it to be used in any Bible with a reverse interlinear). Instead the supplied values are calculated when the outline is displayed. Most likely it was decided that marking everything Supplied would greatly reduce the readability of the rest of the outline, so it's only applied to text in between other blocks.

    Andrew Batishko | Logos software developer

  • Graham Criddle
    Graham Criddle MVP Posts: 33,137
    https://community.logos.com/discussion/comment/951434#Comment_951434

    Thanks Andrew

    Andrew Batishko (Faithlife) said:

    Supplied words aren't tagged in the dataset, since the Propositional Outline data is tagged on the original language words (allowing it to be used in any Bible with a reverse interlinear)

    Understood

    Andrew Batishko (Faithlife) said:

    so it's only applied to text in between other blocks.

    It looked like that was the case.

    This means that my suggestion at https://community.logos.com/forums/t/158698.aspx is even less likely to be feasible!!

    Graham

  • Andrew Batishko
    Andrew Batishko Member, Community Manager, Logos Employee Posts: 5,468
    https://community.logos.com/discussion/comment/951436#Comment_951436

    Graham Criddle said:

    This means that my suggestion at https://community.logos.com/forums/t/158698.aspx is even less likely to be feasible!!

    Yes, although it would be nice to be able to search that dataset for other reasons.

    Yeah, probably not feasible.

    Andrew Batishko | Logos software developer

  • Keep Smiling 4 Jesus :)
    Keep Smiling 4 Jesus :) MVP Posts: 23,148
    https://community.logos.com/discussion/comment/951434#Comment_951434

    Andrew Batishko (Faithlife) said:

    Supplied words aren't tagged in the dataset, since the Propositional Outline data is tagged on the original language words (allowing it to be used in any Bible with a reverse interlinear). Instead the supplied values are calculated when the outline is displayed.

    Propositional Outline tagging includes primary and secondary translation words in a reverse interlinear. Both Longacre Genre and Propositional Outline use {Section ... syntax for searching so curious about alignment of various searches: e.g.

    • Preaching Theme => Pericope
    • Longacre Genre => Verse
    • Propositional Outline => Word
    • Strongs Number => Primary translation word

    Factbook references:

    • Event ?
    • Person => Word
    • Place => Word
    • Thing => Word
    • Topic ?
    • Biography ?

    Cultural Concepts ?

    Discourse Dataset ? (Emphasis and Background are word aligned)

    Syntactic Force ? (suspect word aligned)

    Keep Smiling [:)]

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