When is Faithlife going to realize that the spam is driving away users and potential customers from coming to the forums?
Wow 7 Pages!
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7 pages worth of spam! I’m surprised Accordance doesn’t get hit like this. Maybe their forum software is better.
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I'm more surprised that FL + US...yeah, us...continue to get hit with this junk, as nothing gets done about it.
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When is Faithlife going to realize that the spam is driving away users and potential customers from coming to the forums?
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When is FL going to state its position on spam and justify its Stone Age response to this problem?
Meanwhile, Jesus kept on growing wiser and more mature, and in favor with God and his fellow man.
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7 pages of trash
that continues to clash
with my need to read
the forum with speed
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DAL said:
7 pages worth of spam! I’m surprised Accordance doesn’t get hit like this. Maybe their forum software is better.
DAL
Accordance forums uses IPBoards, which is next to vBulletin as amongst the most secure of forum software solutions. But it isn't free, which is probably why FL doesn't use it (this forum uses PHPBB software which is free).
The thing which is really odd is that FL have a whole range of free forum software solutions to choose from which are far, far more secure than PHPBB. Joomla is free. As is Simple Machines. Bot are very, very good at security. And as stated, they are entirely free.
Dr David Staveley Professor of New Testament. Specializing in the Pauline Epistles, Apocalyptic Judaism, and the Dead Sea Scrolls.
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David Staveley said:
Accordance forums uses IPBoards, which is next to vBulletin as amongst the most secure of forum software solutions. But it isn't free, which is probably why FL doesn't use it (this forum uses PHPBB software which is free).
IPBoards costs around $35 for 6 months. If that's really the reason for not switching to IPBoards, that'd be unbelievably silly. I'm sure there are other reasons.
David Staveley said:The thing which is really odd is that FL have a whole range of free forum software solutions to choose from which are far, far more secure than PHPBB.
How do you know this board is based on PHPBB? As the name suggests, PHPBB works on PHP, and not on Active Server Pages (ASPX). Is it just an assumption you're presenting as fact?
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Jan Krohn said:
IPBoards costs around $35 for 6 months. If that's really the reason for not switching to IPBoards, that'd be unbelievably silly. I'm sure there are other reasons.
How do you know this board is based on PHPBB? As the name suggests, PHPBB works on PHP, and not on Active Server Pages (ASPX). Is it just an assumption you're presenting as fact?
Yes, it is just an assumption on my part. I am sorry if it offended you.
Dr David Staveley Professor of New Testament. Specializing in the Pauline Epistles, Apocalyptic Judaism, and the Dead Sea Scrolls.
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David Staveley said:
Yes, it is just an assumption on my part. I am sorry if it offended you.
Oh my. I’m laughing, Dr David. The comment is pretty common these days. Not sorry for false information. Sorry if someone was offended at false information.
Now, my comment sounds offensive. But I do wonder where the distinction became theologically lost (I assume). Even pastors caught in truly bad behavior go for it, so there must have been a turning point maybe at the millenia or so.
"If myth is ideology in narrative form, then scholarship is myth with footnotes." B. Lincolm 1999.
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Denise said:
Oh my. I’m laughing, Dr David. The comment is pretty common these days. Not sorry for false information. Sorry if someone was offended at false information.
Now, my comment sounds offensive. But I do wonder where the distinction became theologically lost (I assume). Even pastors caught in truly bad behavior go for it, so there must have been a turning point maybe at the millenia or so.
I feel a couple of people here have missed the wood for the trees. The real point here is not what forum software they are using, but how inadequate it is. Whatever it is they are using on this forum, [b]whatever name we give it[/b], it isn't keeping the spam bots out, and there are so many better solutions out there one wonders why FL doesn't implement one of them.
That is the real issue. And attacking me because I happened to inadvertently call the forum software by an incorrect name, or whether I apologise for the offence it caused and not the mistake itself, is attempting to side-step and deflect from the real problem. It is all just a smoke screen trying to obscure the real issue.
Now, what was it Jesus said about straining out a gnat but swallowing a camel? I wonder where that theological distinction got lost.
Dr David Staveley Professor of New Testament. Specializing in the Pauline Epistles, Apocalyptic Judaism, and the Dead Sea Scrolls.
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Now, Dr Dave. I'm just humoring you, though yesterday a gnat did make its way thru the screen door, and was impossible to whack.
You did make a good run at knocking FL. You don't know how much customization is in the current code (quite a bit, over the years), and what they'd have to stop in order to convert. Nor, their plans, after the web app is pretty much in place. And the upper-case letters do require some displayed pride. So, camels aside, the theology remains.
"If myth is ideology in narrative form, then scholarship is myth with footnotes." B. Lincolm 1999.
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Denise said:
So, camels aside, the theology remains.
I’d agree with you, but then we’d both be wrong.
Dr David Staveley Professor of New Testament. Specializing in the Pauline Epistles, Apocalyptic Judaism, and the Dead Sea Scrolls.
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"If myth is ideology in narrative form, then scholarship is myth with footnotes." B. Lincolm 1999.
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We chose this forum software almost a decade ago... a primary motivator was the ability to use existing Logos.com user accounts, which wasn't something we could do with all the third-party platforms. (As well as a bias towards source-available solutions for .NET, since we use that for all our web coding. We didn't want to have to integrate a new tech stack just for the forums. A lot of forum software was built on PHP in the past, but we don't really use PHP.)
As I understand it, the platform doesn't get much attention. In the short term we keep looking for ways to keep the spam out without creating too big a burden to posting. It's a continual balancing act.
In the future we plan to move to the Faithlife platform, but the forum support there isn't robust enough. Once it is, we'll have not only integrated account, but much easier image support, integration with other parts of the Faithlife system, etc.
I'm sorry for the frustration.
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Bob Pritchett said:
In the future we plan to move to the Faithlife platform, but the forum support there isn't robust enough. Once it is, we'll have not only integrated account, but much easier image support, integration with other parts of the Faithlife system, etc.
I'm glad that you are waiting, spam notwithstanding, until the forum support there becomes robust enough. [:)]
“The trouble is that everyone talks about reforming others and no one thinks about reforming himself.” St. Peter of Alcántara
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Bob Pritchett said:
In the short term we keep looking for ways to keep the spam out without creating too big a burden to posting. It's a continual balancing act.
In the future we plan to move to the Faithlife platform, but the forum support there isn't robust enough. Once it is, we'll have not only integrated account, but much easier image support, integration with other parts of the Faithlife system, etc.
I'm sorry for the frustration.
It's a comfort to know the problem has your attention and that you have a plan to address it. In all fairness, the response time for clearing the spam has improved at least from my perspective. I look forward to the future when the spam threat is passe.
Meanwhile, Jesus kept on growing wiser and more mature, and in favor with God and his fellow man.
International Standard Version. (2011). (Lk 2:52). Yorba Linda, CA: ISV Foundation.
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Bob Pritchett said:
In the short term we keep looking for ways to keep the spam out without creating too big a burden to posting. It's a continual balancing act.
We have deployed a simple rate-limiting feature for new posters. Established forum accounts (with a significant number of existing forum posts) are exempt from the rate limit.
If you are told that your post has been moderated, it may be because you are a new user who is posting too frequently, or it may be because your post looks "spammy" and was caught by the existing spam filter.
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We have deployed a simple rate-limiting feature for new posters. Established forum accounts (with a significant number of existing forum posts) are exempt from the rate limit.
If you are told that your post has been moderated, it may be because you are a new user who is posting too frequently, or it may be because your post looks "spammy" and was caught by the existing spam filter.
Mine never posted and it was about a price drop on Alexander Whyte Bible Characters for $24.99 and it used to sell for $74 and change.
https://www.logos.com/product/6733/bible-characters
DAL
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Ok Bradley, you need to, please, fix my posting permit because apparently I can’t post anything that includes a link to your own website.
DAL
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DAL said:
Ok Bradley, you need to, please, fix my posting permit because apparently I can’t post anything that includes a link to your own website.
I've manually approved your most recent post; it should appear above.
Over 1,500 spam posts were caught by the filter in the last two days (this was before the rate limiting) so your other post is probably stuck somewhere in the moderation queue.
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I've manually approved your most recent post; it should appear above.
Over 1,500 spam posts were caught by the filter in the last two days (this was before the rate limiting) so your other post is probably stuck somewhere in the moderation queue.
Thanks! Now hopefully you can get some sales on this practical set. Cheaper than before! I’m glad FL lowered the price 👍😁👌
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We have deployed a simple rate-limiting feature for new posters. Established forum accounts (with a significant number of existing forum posts) are exempt from the rate limit.If you are told that your post has been moderated, it may be because you are a new user who is posting too frequently, or it may be because your post looks "spammy" and was caught by the existing spam filter.
Excellent!
“The trouble is that everyone talks about reforming others and no one thinks about reforming himself.” St. Peter of Alcántara
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Bob Pritchett said:
In the short term we keep looking for ways to keep the spam out without creating too big a burden to posting.
All new forum users will now have to solve a Google reCAPTCHA before being able to write a post or reply. (You won't see this prompt if you already have more than a handful of existing posts.)
Combined with the rate limit already introduced last night, I'm hopeful that this will solve the recent spam problem we've had.
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All new forum users will now have to solve a Google reCAPTCHA before being able to write a post or reply. (You won't see this prompt if you already have more than a handful of existing posts.)
Combined with the rate limit already introduced last night, I'm hopeful that this will solve the recent spam problem we've had.
Thank you. It's much appreciated.
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"Hot New 10pcs Makeup Brushes Ergonomic Microphone Dotted Design.."
This would be ideal for doing Karaoke while applying makeup. Ten pieces for those industrial-sized efforts.
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Robert M. Warren said:
"Hot New 10pcs Makeup Brushes Ergonomic Microphone Dotted Design.."
This would be ideal for doing Karaoke while applying makeup. Ten pieces for those industrial-sized efforts.
Well, the two realms intersect more than you know. Don't these karaoke mikes look like they do double duty as lipsticks of different colors?
And doesn't this microphone-shaped makeup brush just make you want to do karaoke with it?
This gal has the right idea...
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2 spams just passed through the “wall.” I hope 🤞 not many get through 🤞😁👎
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And another spam post from a previous spammer.. Why isnt this user just banned?
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https://community.logos.com/user/Profile.aspx?UserID=268530
Known spammer.. Why are they still here?
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Travis Walter said:
https://community.logos.com/user/Profile.aspx?UserID=268530
Known spammer.. Why are they still here?
I just banned that account.
All accounts that posted spam in the last two weeks should have been deactivated, but it's possible we missed some.
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Well my posts have been stuck there too. It's a shame there is stil such a high spam rate in forums
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