Hearing mixed reports about folks losing functionality and having their workflow upset by upgrading to 8, so if you have, what features/options are missing/not implemented yet?
The notes feature is missing quite a bit. If you are a heavy notes user, as I am, this can be quite unsettling at first. However:
Logos Notes
I have not seen a definitive list yet I'm hoping someone at Faithlife will publish one soon.
Notes has been mentioned.
The new home page is a radical redesign and is incomplete. The knock on here is that some of the items that you may be used to finding there have moved or are not available in the form you may be expecting.
There have been some changes in behaviour that might catch you out depending on the way that you use Logos.
From a general UI perspective things have been moved around, the new structure seems reasonably logical but seems to require more scrolling. Program Settings for example took me a while to find.
Help is in serious need of the promised update being delivered.
Feedback seems to suggest that Preferred/Default Bible is gone as a concept and has been merged into Prioritisation. I think in reality this has been the case for some time and that under the covers the Preferred Bible selection paced your selection at the top of the Prioritisation list.
There are other quirks that I keep finding some of which are irritating because I need to change how I do things others are more annoying and I'm hoping that in these cases we'll be given some configuration options to adjust the behaviour.
I have not seen a commitment from Faithlife but a lot of posts here promise that the issues that have been accepted as needing an update will be fixed in 8.1. It's quite possible that the beta testers have these fixes already so know what is in 8.1.
Feedback from Verbum/Liturgical users seems to indicate that if that is your background a lot more is missing.
Search examples are gone but have been replaced by templates. I wish they could have kept both
I agree because one could click on the example and then use it as a pseudo-template. But if they get the new templates built quickly . . .
Search examples are gone but have been replaced by templates. I wish they could have kept both. Also, after downloading updates, L7 used to tell me what was added / updated. Unless I'm missing something, I don't see that anymore. I would like to know what was updated.
Search examples are gone but have been replaced by templates. I wish they could have kept both.
Also, after downloading updates, L7 used to tell me what was added / updated. Unless I'm missing something, I don't see that anymore. I would like to know what was updated.
You can see this now in the Library view, Open the Sidebar (three line icon just below the library Icon top left) then there are some filters last one being added.
Personally I see this as an example of the type of UI change that needs to be included in a quick guide document for Logos 7 users, the sidebar is a great feature but I would not describe the access or content as intuitive.
There never really was such a concept as "Preferred Bible". The home page tool (which is not on the Logos 8 home page) was a helper that just presented a Bible picker then modified your prioritisation list behind-the-scenes. (Your second sentence is exactly right.)
We understand that using the "Preferred Bible" home page tool was a lot easier than learning all the ins and outs of prioritisation, but we saw this primarily as an onboarding tool (that may come back in a different format in a future release) and not a "feature" of the software that would be frequently used to change the preferred Bible.
but we saw this primarily as an onboarding tool (that may come back in a different format in a future release) and not a "feature" of the software that would be frequently used to change the preferred Bible.
While I agree with you, I suspect that Faithlife may be greatly underestimating the number of people who switch Bibles frequently ... or will once you get just a tad more lectionary support. Most faith formation directors I know carry a 4 or 8 translation Bible - and switch between the Bible used for liturgy and their personal favorite Bible for study on a regular basis.
The home page tool (which is not on the Logos 8 home page) was a helper that just presented a Bible picker then modified your prioritisation list behind-the-scenes.
Bradley, not only would I like to see it brought back, but I wish it would be expanded to other areas. For example, I wish there was a "commentary picker" tool where I could easily pick my top five commentaries for each individual book of the Bible and have Logos modify the prioritization list behind the scenes. Maybe in Logos 8.5?
1. Let's keep praying about this.
2. My habit would be to quite often change preferred / prioritized Bible. A quick way to do so would be ever so useful.
We understand that using the "Preferred Bible" home page tool was a lot easier than learning all the ins and outs of prioritisation, but we saw this primarily as an onboarding tool
Bradley FL has missed the point. You say you have made changes in Logos 8 to make it easier for new users and they you removed one of the features that actually made it easier for new users. You should have used this idea and created a prioritization tool that allowed a user to select a data type and then the top 5 resources they wanted to prioritize. Not unlike we used to be able to do with Libronix but only much more user friendly. It could have even been created as a workflow type document for a new user setting up their system. And as MJ pointed about there are many users of Logos software that use it in a variety of ways and some would use this to change their preferred Bible at times other than initial setup. FL has missed a real opportunity here while complicating things by removing other features form the home page that also allow a user quick access like the Recently updated resources, release notes and link to user account to name three things.
Looking forward to Help resource update. Thankful for new Help Center having many Logos 8 videos and articles (Training and Support) so Logos wiki now includes many links => https://wiki.logos.com/
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I'm just using L8 for the first time tonight, and the first thing I miss is the quick link on the home page that used to list the resources that have been recently downloaded/updated. Is it now located somewhere else, or do I now need to go into the "library" view and manually sort by updated date in order to access that information?
do I now need to go into the "library" view and manually sort by updated date in order to access that information?
You need to go to the library, open the facet panel on the left if it is not open, and select the Added facet for the number of days you are interested in.
do I now need to go into the "library" view and manually sort by updated date in order to access that information? You need to go to the library, open the facet panel on the left if it is not open, and select the Added facet for the number of days you are interested in.
Thank you, MJ, I was afraid of that. I liked the visual cue and the quick access from the home page link, but losing that feature is not a crisis. Thank you for mentioning the facet panel too. Those filters are helpful.
I'm a heavy user of the Passage Guide. Using the guide menu only opens up a blank passage guide that, when a passage is entered, all categories are expanded. In 7 and prior the guide menu would open up pre-populated according to the active passage window AND with categories expanded and collapsed according to the last use. I prefer all categories collapsed, and I expand them as needed. It's much cleaner looking and works faster. Now, to open up a passage guide that is 1)populated with the information from you active passage and 2)with categories collapsed and expanded the way it was last closed one needs to open it from within a passage (drag over passage and open a context menu, select the passage context, and select passage guide). It's quite a bit more clunky.
