8.1 (8.1.0.0016) is Now Available
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doc said:
I should be able to provide honest, open, truthful feedback on these forums without having other customers tell me I don’t have a right to do so or without being wishy washy
We are not only from different sides of the earth, but also of different generations. I was taught that in giving feedback, I should consider first it's usefulness. If I can't word it in a constructive manner, don't say it at all. Second, I should consider whether it is a genuine flaw or merely something that goes against my preferences as the two require very different modes of expression. Third, be polite and considerate to all who might see the feedback. Fourth, it I must express my frustration, do so with a bit of humor ... as the frustration is on me not the company; only I can control the frustration.
From your post, you were obviously taught a different set of standards. The question of when selecting from different sets of standards is always: (a) which is most compatible with a truly Christian life (b) which is most effective (c) which is more apt to lead to a care-free life (d) which reflects best how you wish to be seen by others?
Orthodox Bishop Alfeyev: "To be a theologian means to have experience of a personal encounter with God through prayer and worship."; Orthodox proverb: "We know where the Church is, we do not know where it is not."
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doc said:
... the truth from my perspective is this is the worst home page FL has ever released.
Please elaborate on your perspective. Please help us understand what makes the new Home Page the worst ever for you. What is missing/changed that adversely affected your Home Page usage ?
Simply missing from honest feedback is what annoys/hurts about new Home Page, which prevents others from commiserating/sharing desire for improvement. From a FL perspective, if initial new Home Page is the worst ever, then any improvement should be better. Also, FL has no clue how to improve "worst ever" perspective (practically know a paying customer is hurting, but no idea how to really help so improvements that benefit others provide no value for a hurting customer).
Disclosure: due to many layout and home page crashes in previous versions, personally open Logos/Verbum to a blank layout, which is useful for troubleshooting crash cause(s). For several friendly forum discussions, have opened Home Page plus replicated some crashes. For me, if Home Page was removed, would not miss it (since previous/current Home Page do not help my application usage). Thankful for 8.1 including Explore customization so can improve Home Page appearing quicker by turning off many online feeds.
Personally still dreaming of color theme options for Faithlife user interface so created UserVoice suggestion => Add Themes to personalize colors/colours and improve readability (has 43 votes) while UserVoice => Night Mode for PC/Mac has 292 votes. Theme/Night Mode would include color options for Home Page plus the rest of the application user interface. Cool color choices by young people can be difficult for older people to use (since older eyes have more color/depth/focus perception issues).
OT: this thread has helped me while preparing for a "Celebrate Recovery" weekly meeting. Thankful for two resources in my library:
Your First Step to Celebrate Recovery: How God Can Heal Your Life
Soul Rape: Recovering Personhood after Abuse
Keep Smiling [:)]
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Thank you Smiling, for the Ewart book recommendation.
Not to hurt Logos, but if anyone is money-constrained, Another Co is badly lower.
"If myth is ideology in narrative form, then scholarship is myth with footnotes." B. Lincolm 1999.
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doc said:
Mark you seem to be saying be wishy washy.
Not at all. I'm suggesting that feedback is more powerful when it's constructive and self-aware. That's the opposite of wishy-washy.
doc said:So why as a paying customer should I not be honest of my experience and instead make statement that appear like I am uncertain of my experience which would then put people on these forums, who think it’s their job to quash anything anyone says they don’t like, in an even stronger position over me because I am comment with uncertainty.
I haven't suggested you appear you are uncertain of your experience. I've suggested the opposite — being really clear about your own experience while acknowledging the possibility that not everyone will see it the same way.
At the end of the day, it's entirely your call. So long as you act within the forum guidelines (which IMO you are), you're obviously free to keep on posting as you do. But equally, other customers are free to disagree with you, and they're free to say so. And Faithlife are free to weigh up everyone's concerns and act in a way they believe makes the biggest difference to the most people. I think that being constructive and building consensus is the best way to effect change. You're free to disagree and act accordingly. But personally, I think you'll be less effective in bringing about the change you want if you do.
doc said:I don’t see others being wishy washy when they act outside of the forum guiibes and try to tear me down and they and others continue to make sniper remarks in posts they make.
I don't recall seeing posts like that — although of course I don't read every post. If you feel, for the sake of fairness, I should respond to a particular post now or in the future, you have my contact details above. But I can only offer advice, of course (as I'm doing here). I have no authority over anyone else.
This is my personal Faithlife account. On 1 March 2022, I started working for Faithlife, and have a new 'official' user account. Posts on this account shouldn't be taken as official Faithlife views!
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Philana,
Could you please pin this to to the top of the Logos 8 Forums? SR-1 & SR-2 are there, but I had to search for this one.
Thank you!
Happy 9th day of Christmas!
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