New Logos 8 deal - $100 off and gift for a friend
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Not to be greedy guts, but I wonder if I could get a second gift for a second friend who wants one.
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David Carter said:gil4 said:
I'm logged in and there is an ad at the top of the forum saying "Save an extra $100 on Logos 8 through 12/31. No "first base package" fine print.
Sorry, that's dishonest.
The same banner is below your post. I have also received two emails today which say "There are only days left. Buy Logos 8 before the end of the year and you’ll get an extra $100 off.". No disclaimers.
I think this is disgraceful. A new low for Logos
This is nothing new. I remember a special promotion that Logos offered for owners of Logos 6 or 7 who had not upgraded.
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gil4 said:
RE: "Nothing dishonest. You just have to approach the web site as a person who has not purchased Logos before."
I'm logged in and there is an ad at the top of the forum saying "Save an extra $100 on Logos 8 through 12/31. No "first base package" fine print.Sorry, that's dishonest.
look at the bottom line...[8-)]
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I'm not sure where you saw that (on their blog?), but that ad I posted is all over the place (including at the bottom of the page here as I type) and it has no fine print and no link to fine print. When I click on it, there are no further details, just a bunch of unrelated specials.
Posting an ad all over the place (on my home page, at the top of the forum, at the bottom of every page in the forum, on my Faithlife page, and several other locations) with no asterisk, no note, and no disclaimer is sloppy. Doing it after there have already been complaints about other, similar ads is dishonest. Waiving it off with an "oh, there's a note on our blog" isn't good enough.
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gil4 said:
that ad I posted is all over the place (including at the bottom of the page here as I type) and it has no fine print
Banner ads generally don’t contain fine print within the ad.
The intent of a banner ad is to get people to click through it (incidentally generating ad revenue), visiting the company’s site (to then hopefully buy their product). Any disclaimer within a banner ad would stop some percentage of people from clicking through the ad, hindering page visits, and (ad and) product revenue.
I don’t think it is dishonest to not include fine print in the banner ad.
gil4 said:When I click on it, there are no further details, just a bunch of unrelated specials.
Faithlife has chosen not to show the details (or fine print) to existing customers (who are not eligible for the extra $100 savings offer).
Confusing? Probably. Dishonest? Probably not.
There are other Christmas specials that existing customers can take advantage of, as you mentioned. Can’t we be cheerful about that? Peace on earth, good will to Faithlife employees?
Thanks to FL for including Carta and a Hebrew audio bible in Logos 9!
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PetahChristian said:
Banner ads generally don’t contain fine print within the ad.
The intent of a banner ad is to get people to click through it (incidentally generating ad revenue), visiting the company’s site (to then hopefully buy their product). Any disclaimer within a banner ad would stop some percentage of people from clicking through the ad, hindering page visits, and (ad and) product revenue.
I don’t think it is dishonest to not include fine print in the banner ad.
If there is fine print, there needs to be an indication of the fact. Generating revenue from clicks on these ads (on the homepage of users they know are ineligible) is just as dishonest as the ads themselves. (I must have clicked on the ads two dozen times trying to figure out how to get the special before I came to the forum to try to get answers.)
PetahChristian said:
There are other Christmas specials that existing customers can take advantage of, as you mentioned. Can’t we be cheerful about that? Peace on earth, good will to Faithlife employees?
The term for running one ad, then telling the customer it's not available but we have these other (inferior) specials instead, is bait and switch.
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gil4, I agree ... at any normal retailer, they well know the rules. Our company did.
I tried a clik-thru .. my browser nailed them.
"If myth is ideology in narrative form, then scholarship is myth with footnotes." B. Lincolm 1999.
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Thanks Faithlife, I was able to give Fundamentals to a friend of mine and I am forever grateful. So is he. Thank you very much.
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gil4 said:
The term for running one ad, then telling the customer it's not available but we have these other (inferior) specials instead, is bait and switch.
I'm kinda with you on this. While I love all the freebies and great discounts I get from Logos, this left me feeling disappointed and a bit snookered. I don't usually assign ill motives to Logos, and I am not now, but I think this is at least an example of poor thinking and not taking advantage of the same technology that knows how to determine dynamic pricing per user--ie, either only run that add for people for whom it applies or let all know up front it is for first time purchases.
I like Apples. Especially Honeycrisp.
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Gail said:
GaoLu, is there a way for me to send you a private message?
It depends upon each user's settings, but I think there is for GaoLu. Click on GaoLu's name. This should take you to a Faithlife.com page for that user. Look for a big, blue "send message" button.
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JT (alabama24) said:Gail said:
GaoLu, is there a way for me to send you a private message?
It depends upon each user's settings, but I think there is for GaoLu. Click on GaoLu's name. This should take you to a Faithlife.com page for that user. Look for a big, blue "send message" button.
Thanks, JT. I had a look and I can't find any way to send a message. Maybe we have to be in the same groups or something.
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Gail said:
Maybe we have to be in the same groups or something.
That may be the case. I sent a message... hopefully a response will be forthcoming.
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JT (alabama24) said:Gail said:
Maybe we have to be in the same groups or something.
That may be the case. I sent a message... hopefully a response will be forthcoming.
Thank you!
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Gail said:JT (alabama24) said:Gail said:
GaoLu, is there a way for me to send you a private message?
It depends upon each user's settings, but I think there is for GaoLu. Click on GaoLu's name. This should take you to a Faithlife.com page for that user. Look for a big, blue "send message" button.
Thanks, JT. I had a look and I can't find any way to send a message. Maybe we have to be in the same groups or something.
Thanks, Gail. I overlooked this message and really didn't want to miss it! I seem unable to message you as well. Not sure why. Alabama was able to message me--Thanks, Alabama!
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Thanks and a Happy New Year to all!
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Wow - the free code to give to a friend was a nice offer and good business deal bringing in another customer. Unfortunately, I just noticed the offer today... Hopefully FL offers that deal again, it may entice more current owners to purchase upgrades.
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Frank Sauer said:
Unfortunately, I just noticed the offer today...
Have you not yet updated to L8? If you have, you may have an email code buried somewhere.
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Unfortunately, I hadn't updated yet. The deal may have got me motivated to upgrade, but I must have completely missed the offer in all of secular job grind. November and December are the craziest times of the year for us at work.
I have someone who could benefit from the offer, that it would have been nice to bless.
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