Breath of life
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nicky crane said:
Previously I've always "corrected" them and explained it's because we can communicate with God. Now I need to rethink that. Thank you, Logos!
I too was very glad to see the quote MJ posted. It was thought provoking. I started to comment on it yesterday, but thought better of it. Now I feel I must.
Rethinking our position is healthy. I was happy that Onkelos used the word Spirit. It helps to differentiate man from beast. My point is that I see the ability to discern and choose, of more import than to speak. ( In fact we are cautioned to bridle our tongue.) The communication you mention is central. The fact that He created us with that ability is amazing. The fact that He chooses that communication with us is AWESOME. But it does not require speech. Bottom line ...I see speaking as a symptom of an enhanced thought process, rather than the end result of it. One more bottom line, and I'll climb down off my stump. We are told that God IS Spirit. It would follow that the breath that He breathes is also Spirit. He doesn't require oxygen.
I am not as good as some others at disguising my stump preaching as software instruction. I will work on that.[:D]
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Milford Charles Murray said:
Dear David Paul,
You have posted enough to know that it is offensive to the members of this Logos Community, and against the Logos Forum Guidelines to post this kind of theological drivel. You seem to want to deliberately upset many humble, trusting believing Brothers and Sisters.
You know better or at least should know better. What is your motive? What are you trying to prove by this "Shock" posting. I am not one of the so-called Logos MVP "star" dear brothers and sisters, so I do not have the authority to officially rebuke you and ask you to desist. But! I do find this post and your attitude quite offensive.
LOL, I'm sorry you felt like this was a "shock" posting, MC. There are about a dozen Bible quotes in my post which I didn't "quote", I just figured most Logos users would catch them. My comments about nephesh are rather tepid and accord with most lexicons. Maybe you are put off by Ps.6:5? If you would like to explain just what you mean by "drivel", you may email me: mindfruit AT live_com. The underscore is a dot...just trying to shake the spambots.
As Reagan said, "Trust but VERIFY."
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Nathan Barnes said:David Paul said:
Your conclusions are correct. Humans do not have an immortal human soul. Nothing in scripture indicates they do...that is primarily a Greek infusion from the so-called Early Church Fathers.
David,
Thank you so much for your post, it is refreshing! I get so tired of this "greek mindset" drivel that infuses every aspect of mainstream theological thinking! I seriously do not understand why people take offense to thought and conjecture! A little drash is good for the breath of life! SERIOUSLY! I think you make the whole point of biblical word study...! You MUST consider contextual mindset (ie Hebraic), you cannot just look at all of your beautiful resources, use your greek mindset and come to a nifty, and hasty conclusion! Oh BTW David did not start this "Theological" debate.... Graham did... Resources are good, but mindset is better, thanks David.
Nick,
[Y] to the Hebraic mindset! [Y] to drash!
And while I'm [Y] ... [Y] to sod! Sod is the foundation of all knowledge! [Let the reader understand.]
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David Paul said:Milford Charles Murray said:
Dear David Paul,
You have posted enough to know that it is offensive to the members of this Logos Community, and against the Logos Forum Guidelines to post this kind of theological drivel. You seem to want to deliberately upset many humble, trusting believing Brothers and Sisters.
You know better or at least should know better. What is your motive? What are you trying to prove by this "Shock" posting. I am not one of the so-called Logos MVP "star" dear brothers and sisters, so I do not have the authority to officially rebuke you and ask you to desist. But! I do find this post and your attitude quite offensive.
LOL, I'm sorry you felt like this was a "shock" posting, MC. There are about a dozen Bible quotes in my post which I didn't "quote", I just figured most Logos users would catch them. My comments about nephesh are rather tepid and accord with most lexicons. Maybe you are put off by Ps.6:5? If you would like to explain just what you mean by "drivel", you may email me: mindfruit AT live_com. The underscore is a dot...just trying to shake the spambots.
As Reagan said, "Trust but VERIFY."
Peace and Joy in the Lord to you, David! *smile*
Am pleased to hear from you and will respond in a positive and coherent fashion later today or early Sunday. Blessing!
Philippians 4: 4 Rejoice in the Lord always; again I will say, Rejoice. 5 Let your reasonableness be known to everyone. The Lord is at hand..........
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nicky crane said:
Rosie, ... it took me a long time to realise that your photo showed a dog sitting on your shoulder - at first I thought it was either a zoom lens or a telescope!
Ha! Nicky, that is my camera, not my dog. [:)] Your comment reminds me of the time my grandmother saw a photo of me almost fully submerged in a lake, holding my labrador retriever puppy on my shoulder, and she said "Oh, what a cute picture of Cricket; but what's that rock she's sitting on?"
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JimT said:...maybe Rosie just helps when she likes ...
I help when I'm home, and am not asleep or sick in bed, and don't t have something else more important to do, and am not getting tired of it. As long as you all make it fun and not a bore or a chore, I keep coming back for more. But I also believe in taking a technology sabbath every once in a while to keep things in perspective, so I might go silent for unexplained periods of time. It might be that I'm just trying to get a handle on my Logos forum addiction.
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Rosie Perera said:
and don't t have something else more important to do,
I figured you might be busy going to
Steve Runge's Greek Discourse Workshop June 7~8th,
National Camp Logos June 10~11th, &
Camp Logos Alaskan Cruise June 12~19th.Who knows? Maybe you did and you are so addicted to the forums you are using satellite uplink to answer forum questions from the inside passage to Alaska.
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