Issues with Fuzzy Bible Search
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Lee Gordon said:
Here's Logos:
Lee, your screenshot isn't showing fuzzy bible search results. It looks like you scrolled down past the fuzzy search section, so we can't tell what results were returned there, if anything.
Logos does give me the verse Google found as the first fuzzy result (on the desktop, as well as on iPadOS).
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Thanks to FL for including Carta and a Hebrew audio bible in Logos 9!
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PetahChristian said:Lee Gordon said:
Here's Logos:
Lee, your screenshot isn't showing fuzzy bible search results. It looks like you scrolled down past the fuzzy search section, so we can't tell what results were returned there, if anything.
Logos does give me the verse Google found as the first fuzzy result (on the desktop, as well as on iPadOS).
Okay, yes. Thanks. My bad.
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Robert Kelbe said:
I will preface this by saying that the Fuzzy Bible Search often works really well, and I am grateful for it!
Here is an example where I couldn't find it with the Fuzzy Bible Search, but when I searched in Google, it was the first result. I could have played around with the search parameters, but it was easier to just try Google.
Additionally, others have mentioned that it froze as they were trying to see all the results in Fuzzy Bible Search. I can confirm this... It seems like the scroll bar is missing, so once you click "More" so that the results go off the page you can no longer scroll to see the results.
Has anyone done a bug report on this?
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Lee Gordon said:
Has anyone done a bug report on this?
Yes; Sean acknowledged it here: https://community.logos.com/forums/p/189992/1096330.aspx#1096330
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Sean Boisen said:
If you have specific cases that don't work in Logos or work poorly, feel free to post them to this thread so we can triage them.
Hi Sean,
Here is a concrete example of where fuzzy Bible search does not work well:
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If I use Fuzzy Bible Search with the term
jesus in us
I just get 1 Co 5:4 and Heb 13:20.
Google is more helpful here. But more information is available at the link mentioned in my post above.
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Here's another example.
I searched "in the fullness of time, god sent forth his son" with a comma and didn't get the result I wanted.
Then I searched "in the fullness of time god sent forth his son" without a comma and did get it. Why would the comma be significant?
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Thanks for the feedback Robert. I'm not sure what the explanation is, but i'll pass this along for a future improvement.
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I don't have a satisfactory answer, but it is best to use spaces only for a Fuzzy Search result.
Dave
===Windows 11 & Android 13
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On a hunch that fuzzy search strings may work like utilities like grep where special characters are handled differently, I found it works fine when the , is in quotes like this:
in the fullness of time "," god sent forth his son
I got 100 results in your search just like I get for
in the fullness of time god sent forth his son
yet only 12 results with
in the fullness of time, god sent forth his son
I suspect if we knew how the FL search engine worked we could do some powerful things (and it's probably using some sort of library like grep or something similar), but for now it appears to me the , by itself indicates something to do to the search engine, while putting the comma in quotes says to treat it as a comma in the search string.
As a matter of fact, in these search engines, using an esc character does the same thing often, and in fact it also works here:
in the fullness of time \, god sent forth his son
Try that and see if you get the same result.
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I've not tried them for some time but in former times many regular expressions worked as expected.
Orthodox Bishop Alfeyev: "To be a theologian means to have experience of a personal encounter with God through prayer and worship."; Orthodox proverb: "We know where the Church is, we do not know where it is not."
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Not sure if this is entirely in line with this post, but here's a search that I thought for sure would get picked up by Fuzzy search. It happened to work fine in the regular bible search, but I was still a bit surprised that Fuzzy search didn't catch the obvious here:
Search: open shame
Results:
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Karl Fritz Jr. said:
It happened to work fine in the regular bible search, but I was still a bit surprised that Fuzzy search didn't catch the obvious here:
It's odd to me that it missed the Ezekiel reference as well... but did get both Daniel ones.
“The trouble is that everyone talks about reforming others and no one thinks about reforming himself.” St. Peter of Alcántara
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"open shame" is more common to Heb 6:6 amongst English bibles (Fuzzy #2). "public display" is much less common but Fuzzy returned Col 2:15 at #1. Go figure!
Dave
===Windows 11 & Android 13
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I know this is an old post, but I thought it would be better to continue posting here where Sean had specifically asked for examples where Fuzzy Search does not work as expected.
Often I open a search tab, perform a search, can't find what I'm looking for, and then switch to Fuzzy.
Then, I often reuse that same search tab for other searches, and it remains set to Fuzzy because I can usually find what I'm looking for when it's Fuzzy. Here's an example where it doesn't find an obvious result. It also gives many results which I don't understand.
I searched "gamaliel", expecting to find Acts 22:3. I would have expected exact matches to be prioritized with Fuzzy search. However, only 2/7 exact matches appear, and result #3 I can't even figure out why it appears (Num 2:21 And his army was numbered at thirty-two thousand two hundred.)
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