Sending Proclaim slides into Blackmagic ATEM

Rob Linger
Rob Linger Member Posts: 4 ✭✭
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We moved to Proclaim from EasyWorship earlier this year. Since the COVID crisis, we are moving to live streaming, and want to send a feed from Proclaim into our Blackmagic ATEM Television Studio HD, but I am having a tough time figuring it out.

This past week I saved the slides as PNG files, and then used PowerPoint to send them to the ATEM, but that is a lot of extra work. Can Proclaim be sent to the ATEM? If so, what do I need to do in Proclaim and the ATEM as far as the settings go?

Thanks!

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  • Jordan Sjodin
    Jordan Sjodin Member, Community Manager, Logos Employee Posts: 985

    You should be able to plug your computer into one of the hdmi inputs. The computer will see this as a monitor and you can send proclaims slides there. 

    the one caveat is the computers resolution has to match the ATEM exactly, including refresh rate. 

    Mac | iOS | Android | Windows | Web Developer 

  • Rob Linger
    Rob Linger Member Posts: 4 ✭✭
    https://community.logos.com/discussion/comment/1096219#Comment_1096219

    Hi Jordon.

    Thanks for the quick reply. We typically don't use problem for sermon PowerPoint presentations, as we just recently moved to it. Old habits die hard. However during this time of change, we pre-record the sermon on Saturday for a simulated live stream on Sunday morning. Our associate pastor wanted to try using Proclaim yesterday, so rather than using PowerPoint on my laptop, into the ATEM, like we normally would do, I tried showing the Proclaim presentation, however I couldn't get Proclaim to show up on the ATEM, it would show the extended desktop on the ATEM, but not proclaim. I ended up saving the slides as png files and inserted them into PowerPoint and that worked great, although many extra steps were needed.

    In Proclaim I tried to change the display settings for the #2 screen (ATEM feed), but that was unsuccessful, and it just kept showing the extended desktop.

    Our goal is to use Proclaim as lower thirds into the ATEM, and use I'm guessing a downstream key. Am I missing something somewhere?

  • Jordan Sjodin
    Jordan Sjodin Member, Community Manager, Logos Employee Posts: 985
    https://community.logos.com/discussion/comment/1096230#Comment_1096230

    Oh that’s odd. I missed your part about PowerPoint...

    is this a Windows laptop? I have only had experience doing it with a Mac laptop, but very surprised if the slides wouldnt show up..

    as a test can you drag Proclaim main window onto the ATEM and can you see that?


    I would use the regular key + proclaims fill on the display settings to key out the background for lower thirds. (We even have some premade lower thirds slides in the media browser)

    Mac | iOS | Android | Windows | Web Developer 

  • Rob Linger
    Rob Linger Member Posts: 4 ✭✭
    https://community.logos.com/discussion/comment/1096232#Comment_1096232

    Yes it is a Windows 10 laptop.

    I brought home our old ATEM TV Studio this week, along with an older video camera, to try experimenting with them, to see what I'm doing wrong. It didn't make any sense that I couldn't get the secondary display to work in Proclaim.

  • Robbie Bott
    Robbie Bott Member Posts: 21 ✭✭
    https://community.logos.com/discussion/comment/1096240#Comment_1096240

    First question is what ATEM are you using? Only the new Mini Pro and Studio 4K have built in scalers. This means that you may need to put a HD UP DOWN CROSS box in place. The output from your laptop must match the input of the ATEM so if you ATEM is set to 1080p@30 and you try to send it 1080p@60 you will not get a picture. That's where the UP DOWN CROSS box comes into play you plug your HDMI from your laptop into it, set the box for whatever resolution you need to and it converts whatever signal your laptop sends to whatever the ATEM needs..

    We use Proclaim with our ATEM all the time, we do lower thirds using green screen. Here is a link to one: https://forestparkchurch.org/sermons/abide/

    You can click the second chapter marker, or go about 30 min in and it will bring you to the song service, the lesson starts about 45 min in or the chapter 5 marker... lower thirds from plclaim are used there as well. We use midi cues over network to trigger the lyrics in proclaim which sends them to our ATEM and the ATEM then uses the chroma key to key out the live video.

  • PBJ
    PBJ Member Posts: 1 ✭
    https://community.logos.com/discussion/comment/1096219#Comment_1096219

    Question when using atem pro what is the best way to hook it to the computer so procalim can send slides out? HDMI to atem input or the direct ethernet line? 

    Thanks

    Brian

  • Graham Criddle
    Graham Criddle MVP Posts: 33,275
    https://community.logos.com/discussion/comment/1226952#Comment_1226952

    Hi Brian - and welcome to the forums

    PBJ said:

    Question when using atem pro what is the best way to hook it to the computer so procalim can send slides out? HDMI to atem input or the direct ethernet line? 

    You need to connect an HDMI output from the Proclaim computer into one of the ATEM hdmi ports.

    Graham

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