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Are you also converting all the Lifeway digital resources?
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Dale E Heath said:
Are you also converting all the Lifeway digital resources?
See heading 8 at https://blog.wordsearchbible.com/2020/09/24/9-reasons-you-might-not-see-your-books-yet-and-what-to-do-about-it/
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8. You purchased licenses from the LifeWay ebook store
Books purchased directly from the LifeWay store will not show up in your Logos library. They were not part of the set of licenses we acquired with the Wordsearch business.
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If they're not listed at https://www.logos.com/wordsearch/catalog then the answer is probably "No, those were not licenses or files we acquired as part of the Wordsearch acquisition."
(There are some resources that were in both Wordsearch and LifeWay; if we did acquire them via Wordsearch, we will produce them.)
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Hi Bradley,
I don't know if this is the right forum back I am missing one of the volumes of the Teach the Text Commentary Series. The volume of 2 Corinthians did not come over. I already sent an e-mail to customer service but here is the information. Thanks!
Teach the Text Commentary Series: 2 Corinthians
© 2017 by Moyer V. Hubbard. Database © 2019 Wordsearch.Author: Hubbard, Moyer Prepared by: WORDsearch Version: 0 Language: English Printed ISBN: 9780801092367 Software ISBN: Category: Commentaries CBP date: 8/30/2019 5:41:00 PM DAT date: 8/30/2019 4:41:00 PM Book ID: 0:18183 Path: C:\ProgramData\WORDsearch\Library\TeachText\TeachText2Cor\ 0 -
Looking over https://www.logos.com/wordsearch/catalog, it seems that 0:18183 was linked to the T&T Clark Studies on 2Cor, not to Teach the Text 2Cor - which means you probably got a resource, it just was the wrong one. FL needs to fix the association.
Have joy in the Lord!
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Sims said:
I don't know if this is the right forum back I am missing one of the volumes of the Teach the Text Commentary Series. The volume of 2 Corinthians did not come over.
We've fixed the association (as identified by NB.Mick) so this resource should be showing up in your Library soon. Thanks for letting us know.
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Bradley,
Have waited several months for Matoon's Treasures to be migrated from Wordsearch to Logos. Any way you can speed up the process? Just a little bit? Please? Thank you. Mark Johns
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There's nothing I can do to personally speed up the process [:)], but I know these were on our list of high-priority resources to convert.
You can see here that the collection is In Production: https://www.logos.com/product/154966/treasures-from-the-scriptures-complete-collection
Sorry that I don't have a more detailed update to share with you.
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Well Strong's Talking Greek and Hebrew Dictionary was brought over finally. And amazingly it doesn't talk. Nor does it sync with the other Greek and Hebrew Lexicon / Dictionaries. Then again, neither does the BDB, or tge Complete Word Study Dictionary for Hebrew. I have to keep WordSearch open to actually research words in those helps in a timely manner. Not loving Logos thus far.
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ABWJR said:
Well Strong's Talking Greek and Hebrew Dictionary was brought over finally.
This is not fully correct. It is in the process of being brought over. Currently it still shows edition "eBook" since the transfer is not yet complete. This has been discussed in several threads, e.g. by Bradley here: https://community.logos.com/forums/p/196897/1140459.aspx#1140459
This is the current status and there's every reason to believe this will change - even though the pronunciation of Greek & Hebrew lemmas is only a click or two away.ABWJR said:it doesn't talk.
Actually it does. It is indexed for Greek and Hebrew Strongs and will sync with every lexicon that has this index (like e.g. Vine's, Kittel, Milligan-Moulton, Swanson, Mounce and the Strong's lexicons that used to be in Logos).ABWJR said:Nor does it sync with the other Greek and Hebrew Lexicon / Dictionaries.
Obviously you are free to do so, which actually proves that you kept everything that you paid for - if you don't like what Faithlife gave to you as a generous free gift (which by the way other people paid dear money for), nobody forces you to. Maybe in some weeks the functionality of some of your key resources has evolved so that you feel you can use Logos in a comparable manner to your WS process.ABWJR said:I have to keep WordSearch open to actually research words in those helps in a timely manner.
Have joy in the Lord!
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No seriously, thank you for telling how Strong's functions on my computer. I'm excited to know that when it is not syncing with the other helps, that it actually is. And thank you for your other assumption.
But, I actually paid money for each of the items in my library. Logos apparently negoitated with WordSearch to assume their customers and support them. That was neither my decision or yours.
In the future, perhpas spend your energy not helping someone else.
Thanks
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ABWJR said:
I'm excited to know that when it is not syncing with the other helps, that it actually is.
Are you putting both lexicons in the same link set in order to cause them to sync?
I just opened Strong's Talking Greek and Hebrew Dictionary in Verbum ('Catholic Logos') and Enhanced Strong's Lexicon and added them both to Link set A and they synced just fine in both directions as I scrolled. The New Strong's Dictionary of Hebrew and Greek Words worked just fine alongside the Talking one, too, so it's not looking like I can recreate your problem.
I'd love to see a screenshot of what you see when you're trying to get these resources to sync so that we can determine what's wrong.
“The trouble is that everyone talks about reforming others and no one thinks about reforming himself.” St. Peter of Alcántara
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SineNomine said:
Are you putting both lexicons in the same link set in order to cause them to sync?
I just opened Strong's Talking Greek and Hebrew Dictionary in Verbum ('Catholic Logos') and Enhanced Strong's Lexicon and added them both to Link set A and they synced just fine in both directions as I scrolled. The New Strong's Dictionary of Hebrew and Greek Words worked just fine alongside the Talking one, too, so it's not looking like I can recreate your problem.
I'd love to see a screenshot of what you see when you're trying to get these resources to sync so that we can determine what's wrong.
Oh wow, finally figured out how to quote in this forum. LOL
Anyway thanks for the reply. And, yes I am putting the helps into the same Link Set B. Strong's doesn't sync with OT or NT helps. Vine's, doesn't sync from time to time but, I experienced the same thing in WS also since it tends to group words together into sets. For instance, all greek words translated endure, etc. The Complete Word Study for Hebrew does not sync with the Brown–Driver–Briggs Hebrew Lexicon. The Strong's is not syncing to that either. I do not want to take up any more of this forum's time on my singular issue because it's off topic from the title.
It's good to know that Strong's is continuing to be updated, my migration status doesn't indicate any ongoing work on it. And, I will perhaps try reinstalling everything or call support to see if they can advise.
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Greetings ABWJR
ABWJR said:I do not want to take up any more of this forum's time on my singular issue because it's off topic from the title.
This is a rambling thread, but I guess it was always going to be. However, the volunteers here (and the forums are mostly for volunteers) are more than willing to help sort things out.
One problem is that 'Strongs Talking Greek and Hebrew Dictionary' will be new to all of us so we cannot speak from experience of using it. The saving grace is that the resource will eventually make it through the upgrade path to a Logos Research Edition.
In the meantime, some of the functionality of the resource may be available in Logos by other means.
If you are interested in exploring the options it would be a good idea to post in the Logos 8 or Logos 9 desktop forums.
Please remember though, that the volunteers who might respond offering help are unlikely to appreciate be told to 'go help somebody else'.
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Mike
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Mike Binks said:
Please remember though, that the volunteers who might respond offering help are unlikely to appreciate be told to 'go help somebody else'.
Understood. But then, those volunteers- supposedly Christian, should not be responding, if they are going to be condescending in their answers or suggest that while they have paid for their resources, somehow, I have not paid for mine.
I'm not inclined to ask for help in the forums if likely to encounter that type of attitude.
Thank you
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Sir, it is clear that you’re bothered by the response you received, but is it helpful to suggest someone might not be saved?
While some of us are not saved, it truly is not pleasant or encouraging to see how one can treat another.
May we please turn our focus to issues regarding the software or its resources, which is the purpose of these forums.
Thanks to FL for including Carta and a Hebrew audio bible in Logos 9!
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ABWJR said:
Anyway thanks for the reply.
You're welcome. [:)]
ABWJR said:And, yes I am putting the helps into the same Link Set B. Strong's doesn't sync with OT or NT helps.
Hmm. Could you give the name(s) of the specific resources you're referring to here, if they're not mentioned later in your post? Then I and/or others could test them and see if we can figure out what might be going wrong, and maybe even get some useful documentation for bug reports if needed.
ABWJR said:Vine's, doesn't sync from time to time but, I experienced the same thing in WS also since it tends to group words together into sets.
I don't have Vine's, unfortunately.
ABWJR said:The Complete Word Study for Hebrew does not sync with the Brown–Driver–Briggs Hebrew Lexicon.
I don't have that Complete Study, but I do have both the Enhanced BDB and the Abridged one. In a link set, they scroll with each other (but not word by word) when the reference in the little box by the keyboard icon for both resources is BDB something-or-other (e.g., BDB 1036.1). When I change one to the Hebrew word, they still scroll, but the other switches to showing the Hebrew word in that box as well. The Abridged one has no page numbers, but when I set the reference to show the page number, the abridged one follows it. Other lexicons are working that way for me as well.
What changing the reference from BDB to page number to Hebrew word does do is change which resource show up when I use the Parallel Resources tool. The Enhanced BDB has lots of Hebrew words that aren't in any of my other lexicons, so what shows up in Parallel Resources varies greatly as I scroll with Hebrew words in the reference box. Page number gets me nothing, and BDB references only get me the Abridged BDB.
Neither BDB is indexed by Strong's number, so there's no chance of either mapping with Strong's anything in virtue of that number. However, the Enhanced BDB does scroll--showing Hebrew word references--when there's one matching it in the Enhanced BDB.
ABWJR said:And, I will perhaps try reinstalling everything or call support to see if they can advise.
Calling support might help. Uninstalling and reinstalling rarely fixes anything in Logos (and what little it can fix is normally fixable by less drastic means), but go ahead if you want. I still think screenshots could be very helpful.
“The trouble is that everyone talks about reforming others and no one thinks about reforming himself.” St. Peter of Alcántara
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ABWJR said:
It's good to know that Strong's is continuing to be updated, my migration status doesn't indicate any ongoing work on it.
Most resources that are currently listed as an "Ebook" edition are being actively worked on (to upgrade them to a "Reader" or "Research" edition). We don't have any more granular status than that available. When the upgrade is completed, they will be published and Logos 8/9 will download them automatically and integrate them into your library.
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ABWJR said:
The Complete Word Study for Hebrew does not sync with the Brown–Driver–Briggs Hebrew Lexicon.
For grins, placed Lexham Hebrew Bible (LHB) into link set E with
- Complete Word Study Dictionary: Old Testament (Hebrew Strong's Number, Hebrew headwords, English headwords, ...)
- Vine's Complete Expository Dictionary (Hebrew Strong's Number, Hebrew headwords, English headwords, ...)
- Enhanced Brown-Driver-Briggs (BDB) (Brown-Driver-Briggs, Hebrew headwords) does not have Hebrew Strong's Number
- Hebrew and Aramaic Lexicon of the Old Testament (HALOT) (Hebrew headwords)
Tools => Information is configured to Update on click
One click on וְאָֽהַבְתָּ֥ in LHB causes update of Information Tool & four linked lexicons (LHB lemma was sent to each lexicon)
FWIW: from forum discussions, appears Wordsearch uses Strong's Numbering (of original language lemma's) for connecting English to original language resources. Logos & Verbum prefer original language lemma's (usable in resources that have lemma's not in the Bible so do not have Strong's numbering).
Adding New Strong's Dictionary of Hebrew and Greek Words (NSDHGW) that does not have Hebrew headwords to Link Set E uncovered resource bug in Complete Word Study Dictionary: Old Testament (CWSD:OT) alignment of Hebrew headwords and Hebrew Strong's Number so Hebrew headword (lemma) sent to CWSD:OT causes location change to correct lemma, but Hebrew Strong Number is one less so subsequent link set location change to NSDHGW has corresponding lemma as the second entry (instead of being the top one)
For CWSD:OT resource bug illustration, added another tab with CWSD:OT so could show active indexes in CWSD:OT where Strong's Hebrew # 156 is in the active list, which should be Strong's Hebrew # 157
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For grins, ...
Friend, looking closely at your screenshot, you appear to have Strong's numbers in green text, TWOT in orange test, and G?K in red text. I'm guessing you do this using Visual Filters, but cannot figure out how you accomplished it. Would you mind sharing?
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John W Gillis said:
For grins, ...
Friend, looking closely at your screenshot, you appear to have Strong's numbers in green text, TWOT in orange test, and G?K in red text. I'm guessing you do this using Visual Filters, but cannot figure out how you accomplished it. Would you mind sharing?
Thankful for Faithlife enabling sharing of user documents [:D] so in Feb 2012 Lexicon Links visual filter was published to Logos Visual Filters group so followers could freely copy into their own documents (and modify as desired)
Logos Wiki Extended Tips for Highlighting and Visual Filters includes:
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I still do not have my Baker new testament commentary. This was one of my favorite commentaries in Wordsearch
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JLH said:
I still do not have my Baker new testament commentary. This was one of my favorite commentaries in Wordsearch
These are available to you. I recommend you opening your library and using the following search:
series:"New Testament Commentary"
From there you can do a faceted search by series. One of the options will be "New Testament Commentary".
I believe these titles were later re-branded as "Baker New Testament Commentary" which is probably why you were having issues finding it.
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Excuse Me ----- this is MEANINGLESS
Telling me that a book is now in an "Available" status in Logos, but it doesn't function in the exact same way it did in Wordsearch = LIE.
In Wordsearch a book was indexed to/with the Bible. When I changed chapter and verses in any of the Bible Windows, the book in question also changed chapter and verse right along with it.
Is it TOO MUCH to expect the same functionality? No, not at all. In fact you somewhat promised it. But you LIED.
Here we are MONTHS later, and you've done NOTHING. Making a book that used to function and was indexed with the Bible >>>> into pdf or eBook is WORTHLESS. Do you understand worthless?
I will be telling all of my brothers/sisters on FB, and other social media platforms about your DECEPTIVE practices.
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AJ Kerezy said:
Excuse Me ----- this is MEANINGLESS
Telling me that a book is now in an "Available" status in Logos, but it doesn't function in the exact same way it did in Wordsearch = LIE.
In Wordsearch a book was indexed to/with the Bible. When I changed chapter and verses in any of the Bible Windows, the book in question also changed chapter and verse right along with it.
Is it TOO MUCH to expect the same functionality? No, not at all. In fact you somewhat promised it. But you LIED.
Here we are MONTHS later, and you've done NOTHING. Making a book that used to function and was indexed with the Bible >>>> into pdf or eBook is WORTHLESS. Do you understand worthless?
I will be telling all of my brothers/sisters on FB, and other social media platforms about your DECEPTIVE practices.
Instead of throwing insults and being mean maybe you should try reading this forum a bit. FL has said numerous times they are getting the books into the system as fast as they can as ebooks and will then convert to the regular books over time. They are doing this for free for you. If you cannot be patient go back to WS and continue to use your books there. Come back in 6 months and hopefully fixed by then. PATIENCE
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AJ Kerezy said:
Here we are MONTHS later, and you've done NOTHING. Making a book that used to function and was indexed with the Bible >>>> into pdf or eBook is WORTHLESS. Do you understand worthless?
I will be telling all of my brothers/sisters on FB, and other social media platforms about your DECEPTIVE practices.
Faithlife has been very upfront about the process involved to bring 1000s of resources over to the Logos platform. Try reading before throwing out your slanderous accusations and spreading them to your brothers and sisters. No one is holding a gun to your head and forcing you to switch to Faithlife and you still have access to those resources via the WORDsearch program that is still operational.
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If you tell me I have a car that's "AVAILABLE" out in my driveway.......but then I find it has no engine; well you can call that being upfront if you want........... I'm sorry brother, that's just an out and out LIE
.We should be held to higher standards of honesty. Not deceptive words.
We're going on SIX MONTHS to get this stuff indexed and TRULY AVAILABLE and functioning as it did in the old software. It doesn't take a rocket scientist to do this. It does take resources.
I'm honestly skeptical that Logos has any GENUINE INTENTION of making these books function like they did in Wordsearch. That's SAD. It's SAD when they pump time and resources into other changes in their software, but leave their WS customers behind. That's what I expect from the world; from my cable provider, from the car dealer, from the _____________.
If they have no intention on fully indexing each every book that was fully indexed in Wordsearch - then they should be HONEST about it, and quit LYING and calling it "AVAILABLE".
An non-indexed Bible Commentary is about as worthless as a _________________________. Let's quit LYING and calling something that's NOT functional "AVAILABLE" to make their job sound done and to make themselves sound good. This web page is deceptive at best, and an out and out LIE at worst: https://www.logos.com/wordsearch/library-migration
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AJ Kerezy said:
In Wordsearch a book was indexed to/with the Bible. When I changed chapter and verses in any of the Bible Windows, the book in question also changed chapter and verse right along with it.
Curious which Wordsearch book(s) are the most desired to be transformed from eBook into Logos Research Edition ? (includes Bible Milestones for linked scrolling)
Noticed lack of your replies in thread started on 26 Oct 2020 => Which new Wordsearch resources would you like to see first? (help Faithlife prioritize which resources be converted into Logos Research Edition sooner rather than later)
Note: looking at Wordsearch catalog => https://www.logos.com/wordsearch/catalog shows many Available as Logos Research Edition. Also noticed a significant number of Available as eBook: e.g. Strong's Talking Hebrew and Greek Dictionary (whose eBook conversion left out Talking while Logos & Verbum applications have lemma audio pronunciations, but not embedded in a single resource).
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AJ Kerezy said:
An non-indexed Bible Commentary is about as worthless as a _________________________. Let's quit LYING and calling something that's NOT functional "AVAILABLE" to make their job sound done and to make themselves sound good. This web page is deceptive at best, and an out and out LIE at worst: https://www.logos.com/wordsearch/library-migration
Description reminds me of a printed "Word Pictures in the Greek New Testament" that did not have Book, Chapter, and Verse on the printed pages so the printed book was Available for me to read & use, but was quite challenging to use for looking up comments about word usage in non-sequential verse order (similar to Available as Ebook that has text available for reading, but frustratingly difficult to jump between non-sequential verses). Manually adding Bible indexing information to every page took many hours over numerous days. Sometimes needed to correct my manual index marking [:P]
A possibility for Available Ebook usage is searching for Bible reference: e.g. <Mt7.12>
Thankful for Bible Book Abbreviations of two/three characters for every Bible Book, which is helpful for navigation & searching.
Implied in idea 'An non-indexed Bible Commentary is about as worthless as a _________________________. ' is intense desire for quality Bible Milestone indexing so navigating to Philippians 4:4 goes to desired commentary text (instead of James 1:19). Thread => American Standard Version 1901 - Personal Bible without Chapter and Verse #'s included three revisions of Bible Indexing in the New Testament. Quality checking of my efforts found [:P] that needed correction. Thankful for Faithlife resource creation having quality checks with corrections before public release. Caveat is time needed to quality check Bible Milestones, ... especially in Bible Commentary resources for the whole Bible as various Books have some Milestone quirks: e.g. Jude does not have chapter numbering.
AJ Kerezy said:I'm honestly skeptical that Logos has any GENUINE INTENTION of making these books function like they did in Wordsearch. That's SAD. It's SAD when they pump time and resources into other changes in their software, but leave their WS customers behind.
Disagree while humanly not knowing how long for high quality conversion completion from eBook to Logos Research Edition. FWIW: a number of Logos & Verbum customers are also anxiously waiting for Logos Research Edition conversion completion plus hoping for Wordsearch Library Expansion bundles, which can give wallets reason to cry [:'(]
Thankful for Community Pricing => https://www.logos.com/search?sort=bestselling&pageSize=60&unlocked=yes&sortBy=Progress&limit=60&page=1&filters=status-communitypricing_Status&ownership=all&geographicAvailability=all where user community bids on resources to be created. Once enough users have collectively bid enough to cover 100 % of estimated resource creation cost, bidding closes so resource becomes a pre-publication (lowest bid amount for 100% cost coverage becomes pre-order price for all bidders, who had bid that amount or higher). When resource ships, the pre-order amount is charged. My library includes many titles from successful community pricing bids, which has had varying lengths of time between bid closing and resource shipping (so am disappointed, but not surprised about length of time for Logos Research Edition conversions).
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AJ Kerezy said:
.We should be held to higher standards of honesty. Not deceptive words.
We're going on SIX MONTHS to get this stuff indexed and TRULY AVAILABLE and functioning as it did in the old software. It doesn't take a rocket scientist to do this. It does take resources.
I'm honestly skeptical that Logos has any GENUINE INTENTION of making these books function like they did in Wordsearch. That's SAD. It's SAD when they pump time and resources into other changes in their software, but leave their WS customers behind. That's what I expect from the world; from my cable provider, from the car dealer, from the _____________.
ible Commentary is about as worthless as a _________________________. Let's quit LYING and calling something that's NOT functional "AVAILABLE" to make their job sound done and to make themselves sound good. This web page is deceptive at best, and an out and out LIE at worst: https://www.logos.com/wordsearch/library-migration
Personally, I find your post offensive. Being mean and yelling at people never helps. I understand your frustration (maybe) as I am in the same boat as you are. I still run WS software and Logos software to do my studying etc. But at least I have access to all my books so far! And I suggest you do to.
When I first came to Logos, I was frustrated and upset as I see you are. But I don't think, being abusive and unkind is any way to treat Logos people or anyone that is trying to help you. I am a Christian first, as I hope you are and with that it's not about what they do, it is entirely about what I do and how I act! Period.
I do not have the right to "brow beat" people or to be unkind to people or to be mean to people, simply because, I am a Christian.
I believe also, that you are wrong about Logos. I think they are working on transitioning all WS libraries into Logos as license's allow. I do see my WS library being transitioned into Logos USABLE books. I understand this to be a multi step process (and I don't know all the processes) but ebooks are a step in that process. I understand also that we just came through all the "year end holidays" when people want to be off work and spending time with their families and I am sure some of the employees of Logos did just that. Vacation and holidays will slow down any project.... that is a given. Logos could hire more people.... and charge us more... but maybe a bit of patience on our part may help to keep prices down...
And last something my wife says to me often.... "you get more flies with honey than you do with vinegar". I suggest you think on those words as I often do myself. And remember.... being kind never hurts but someone being mean and unkind can be remembered a long long time. There is always a kind way to get your point across.
xn = Christan man=man -- Acts 11:26 "....and the disciples were first called Christians in Antioch".
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Greetings AJ
AJ Kerezy said:Excuse Me ----- this is MEANINGLESS
I am not sure which part of this rather long thread your response refers to.
However, if it does refer to the posts immediately in front of your heavily emphasised rant then you perhaps need to reread what is written there.
The Baker New Testament Commentaries are available and fully functioning in Logos. It looks as if the title may be different but the work is there.
If this set is not functioning as it should for you I am sure that somebody here will work with you to figure out why.
On the other hand, if your frustration is with the speed of Faithlife's resource conversions we need to ask again, Why are you using Logos at all. I will predict that your requirement That...
AJ Kerezy said:function in the exact same way it did in Wordsearch
will never come to pass. Indeed for this to be the case, you will need to stick with the Wordsearch program and just take care not to damage it.
Of course, when you do need the facilities of Logos, both the company and the volunteer helpers on this forum will stand ready to assist you in getting the most from your resources. However, those resources will, unfortunately for you 'function in the exact same way' as they do in Logos.
In the meantime, you will probably be less frustrated if you stick with Wordsearch, (which I understand is still functioning as well as it ever did) and keep your frustration mininimised.
tootle pip
Mike
Now tagging post-apocalyptic fiction as current affairs. Latest Logos, MacOS, iOS and iPadOS
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AJ Kerezy said:
Excuse Me ----- this is MEANINGLESS
Telling me that a book is now in an "Available" status in Logos, but it doesn't function in the exact same way it did in Wordsearch = LIE.
In Wordsearch a book was indexed to/with the Bible. When I changed chapter and verses in any of the Bible Windows, the book in question also changed chapter and verse right along with it.
Is it TOO MUCH to expect the same functionality? No, not at all. In fact you somewhat promised it. But you LIED.
Here we are MONTHS later, and you've done NOTHING. Making a book that used to function and was indexed with the Bible >>>> into pdf or eBook is WORTHLESS. Do you understand worthless?
I will be telling all of my brothers/sisters on FB, and other social media platforms about your DECEPTIVE practices.
I'm sorry that the conversion process is taking longer than you or we hoped.
For titles that we didn't carry we've been actively making them available in the Logos platform and improving their functionality and continue to do so. On February 16, we pushed out/updated over 200 titles and we're gearing up for another batch on March 3. In the last three days we've prepped 34 titles and that number will continue to grow over the next 12 days. As of this morning we have over 900 titles that are either in the process of being upgraded from ePubs into Logos Research editions. Most of these are your commentaries, Bibles, encyclopedias, etc.
When it comes to resources starting as ePubs, I'll quote my co-worker Bradley mentioned earlier:
"We thought this would be helpful for all migrating customers, but we've since learnt that some customers like having an interim ebook version available, and some very much do not. Given that we already published the Ebook version, we don't plan on taking it away, but will leave it available until the Logos Edition is ready.It sounds like you understand how an "Ebook" functions (or doesn't function, rather) in Logos. If you don't like that, I suggest periodically checking your personal migration page at https://www.logos.com/wordsearch/library-migration and not switching to Logos until the word "Ebook" no longer appears there.
We should also be emailing batches of customers when the conversion is finished and their library is complete, so you could also wait until that email is sent out and the resources are in their final state before trying Logos again. (Note that some resources will remain as Ebooks--we're not promising to convert everything--but the important commentaries and other reference works will get upgraded to Logos editions.)"
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Thanks Bradley,
In Wordsearch I had the "Strong's Talking Hebrew Greek Dictionary" It shows that it is available and I have it open in Logos. However, in Wordsearch you could click a speaker icon and it would audible pronounce the word, hence the title talking dictionary. Also, in Wordsearch it would have a link to the Vine's Word if it existed in the Vine's dictionary. I used this on a weekly basis in my sermon prep. When will this capability be available in Logos?
Thanks again,
David
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David King said:
When will this capability be available in Logos?
I don't have a date, but we're actively working on converting it.
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Bradley,
My KJV version Bible in Wordsearch includes topic headings in sections telling you what the following verses will be covering. It also include chapter headings and clearly shows when you transition to the next chapter. I have looked through all my KJV Bibles in Logos and they do not section headings and Chapter change clarity (i.e. "Chapter 2"). They just scroll from one chapter to the next with no delineations at all. Do you know when the Wordsearch KJV Bible will be available in Logos. I think I'm going to really like Logos. I'm just going to need to get all my books in place so I can start using it.
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David King said:
... in Wordsearch you could click a speaker icon and it would audible pronounce the word, hence the title talking dictionary. Also, in Wordsearch it would have a link to the Vine's Word if it existed in the Vine's dictionary. I used this on a weekly basis in my sermon prep. When will this capability be available in Logos?
Welcome [:D]
Thread => click on word to pronounce it includes screen shots showing Right Click => Pronounce & Lookup: Vine's can be one of the five Lookup choices, depending on resource prioritization. Thread => searching strong's numbers includes screen shots of Library prioritization so five lexicons appear for Original Language Lemma lookup and five different lexicons for Strong's number lookup. Logos Bible Software uses Original Language Lemma as the primary connector, which is useful in extra-biblical resources that have Lemma's not assigned a Strong's number since was not used in Bible.
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Any idea when "Treasures of the Bible" Commentaries by Mattoon might be available?
I have been using them for several years with WORDSearch. Do you think I will be able
to access it sometime soon or later this year?Just wondering.....
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Mark Johns said:
Any idea when "Treasures of the Bible" Commentaries by Mattoon might be available?
Looks hopeful
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Mike
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David King said:
My KJV version Bible in Wordsearch includes topic headings in sections telling you what the following verses will be covering.
Tools => Passage Analysis => Compare Pericopes in my library currently has 21 Pericope Sets with descriptive Psalm Pericopes: (none for KJV)
FYI: updated thread => Bug 8.15 Beta 1 Passage Analysis letter wrapping
CBD has a 1611 facsimile print edition that shows an outline of some verse(s) at the beginning of each chapter, which is different than pericope: e.g. Genesis III
- 1 The serpent deceiueth Eve. 6 Mans shameful fall. 9 God arraigneth them. 14 The serpent is cursed. 15 The promised Seed. 16 The punishment of Mankind. 21 Their first clothing. 22 Their casting out of Paradise.
David King said:It also include chapter headings and clearly shows when you transition to the next chapter.
Workaround idea is linking Lexham English Bible (LEB) with KJV as LEB has Pericopes: (Non-Bible text can be displayed when Chapter & Verse numbers are not shown)
Bible resource Locator Bar shows current Book and Chapter number. Right Click on a Bible word shows Chapter & Verse #'s. LEB is a formal equivalence (literal) translation style, same as KJV, but did not need to keep Bishop's Bible wording when practical so LEB has modern English 'you' usage (does not distinguish singular 'you': thee, thine, thou, thy and plural 'you': ye as KJV does).
Screen shot shows KJV using Multiview Resources || with Geneva Bible Notes (freely included in Logos 9 Basic) while Multiview Resources feature is included in Logos 9 Fundamentals that allows a commentary to follow Bible text while avoiding link set navigation surprises when commentary does not have every Bible verse. Geneva Bible Notes include Chapter header (so scrolling in linked Bibles causes Notes Chapter header to scroll too).
Caveat about chapter and verse numbering is lack of correspondence with original language discourse boundaries: e.g. Paul wrote some long Greek sentences that have many verse numbers like Ephesians 1:3-14, Colossians 1:9-20, Philippians 2:5-11, 1 Thessalonians 2:1-12 (conversely a number of numbered verses have more than one Greek sentence: OpenText.org shows a number of numbered verses having four Greek sentences: e.g. John 1:20, Galatians 3:28 while 1 Thessalonians 5:14 has five principal clauses and John 1:28 has eight principle clauses). Original language writings do not have chapter & verse numbering (was added in the 1500's for use with concordance word lookup).
Dreaming of Logos Pericope Set with Reverse Interlinear being added to The New Cambridge Paragraph Bible with the Apocrypha, rev. ed. (NCPB) so Please Vote => Please add Logos Pericope Set with Reverse Interlinears to NCPB
Logos Blog => You’ve Probably Never Seen the Real King James Version
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Backing up to Jan 1, 2021 I had about 175 resources to yet be converted. Today I have about 141 resources in progress and 10 not yet started. Appr 30+ have been completed over the past 60 days. Is there a list of what is in progress and there expected due date. That is what I have been asking about for six months. Not a single communication back on what is the expected completion date on my open items. I have looked at the forum on several time but no details of expected completion dates. Who can or will answer my questions on these 141 resources. I have been in communication with Customer Service Manager he suggested that I communicate these to the forum.
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ball said:
That is what I have been asking about for six months. Not a single communication back on what is the expected completion date on my open items.
With a post count of two (one of which is above) may I ask just where you have been asking?
Actually, the questions you ask have been answered many times in this and other forums.
The main answer is that Faithlife is committed to bringing your resources over from Wordsearch as quickly as possible but they do not give out target dates other than in the most general of terms.
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Mike
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ball said:
Is there a list of what is in progress and there expected due date. That is what I have been asking about for six months. Not a single communication back on what is the expected completion date on my open items.
The list of in-progress resources is: https://www.logos.com/wordsearch/library-migration
The expected completion date is "as soon as possible". We routinely post updates of what has been completed (see https://community.logos.com/forums/p/198627/1151655.aspx#1151655 ff) but we do not have any estimated completion dates for resources that are still being converted.
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Six months and still not complete is not good customer service. When a customer for information it should be supplied.
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Why? Having dates would apply some measurement and would improve performance of those who are responsible!
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Ball,
it took WordSearch many years to produce these titles, There is no way Faithlife can produce thousands of titles quickly and still maintain their normal business of releasing new books, and the release of a major upgrade to the software. I believe they are doing their best to take care of us.
You still have your original WordSearch program to use in the interim.
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I disagree! Today's technology this should have been done in six months. Logos does not take the extra step to answer customer questions or communicate.
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Well, I have over 1181 titles being converted and 1118 are done. That is about 95% there so I'm happy with the progress.
I do have one question. When I use the sermon started guide (love this feature BTW) it gives me an illustration section where it list illustrations from various books I have on illustrations. One of my favorites is "Knight's Master Book of New Illustrations." It has been converted but is not part of illustrations look-up in the Sermon Starter Guide. What can I do to get other books on illustrations(Knights and a couple others) added to this look up. I love the look because in Word search all I had was key word look ups in my illustration books but in LOGOs it goes beyond just a key word look up.
Thanks, and I appreciate the work you guys are doing to get everything converted over.
David
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ball,
You know I have worked in technology for the last 20 years. But, I've never done any work converting thousands of text files across two completely different platforms. However, I'd say it would take a LONG time and I wouldn't presume to make a judgement on it. But, hey that's me. I'm sure you telling them that this is taking too long and accusing them of not responding to your questions is making things move much quicker.
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I have had a little over 1700 already processed and downloaded from WS to Logos and if my "quick" count is accurate, I still have a little over 270 still to have converted.
Thank you to the folks at Faithlife for making this transition as positive as possible at the same time you were releasing L9. My prayers are with you as you strive to complete the enormous process.
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David King said:
I do have one question. When I use the sermon started guide (love this feature BTW) it gives me an illustration section where it list illustrations from various books I have on illustrations. One of my favorites is "Knight's Master Book of New Illustrations." It has been converted but is not part of illustrations look-up in the Sermon Starter Guide. What can I do to get other books on illustrations(Knights and a couple others) added to this look up. I love the look because in Word search all I had was key word look ups in my illustration books but in LOGOs it goes beyond just a key word look up.
Hi David
This title is still going to receive more work. One of the things that will happen will allow it to be hooked up to the Sermon Starter Guide and you'll be able find illustrations according to their theme.
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