Urgent & Important Request: WordSearch KJV to be transferred to the Logos Bible Library
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David Thomas said:
It would be nice to have Pericope headings (WordSearch edition) AND RI tagging (KJV:1900) in ONE RESOURCE.
Thanks; I understand now.
It's possible that this could happen in the future, but I'd consider it very unlikely. (There isn't a reverse interlinear for LLS:1.0.3, for example, and that's our oldest (length of time in the software, not publication date) KJV resource.)
I created a suggestion to track user interest: https://feedback.faithlife.com/boards/logos-data-sets/posts/wordsearch-king-james-version-kjv-reverse-interlinear
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Mine came yesterday. If you click on the burger and select information, you get this:
The King James Version was translated out of the original tongues and with previous translations, including that of William Tyndale and John Wycliffe, which was diligently compared and revised to their existing texts. In the preface of the 1611 edition, the translators stated that it was not their purpose to make a new translation of the Bible but rather to make a good one better. The King James Version is a revision of the Bishop's Bible of 1568.
The King James Bible translators were a collection of some of the world's best scholars. They approached this translation with the mindset that they were translating the very word of God. It was the desire of the translators to make God's Holy Truth more and more known unto the people. The King James Bible has been called "the monument of English prose" as well as "the only great work of art ever created by a committee". The King James Version was presented to King James I when completed in 1611. It has been the Standard English translation for almost four hundred years.
The King James Version is noted for the quality of translation and the majesty of style. The translators were committed to producing an English Bible that would be a precise translation and by no means a paraphrase or broadly approximate rendering. The scholars were fully familiar with the original languages of the Bible and especially gifted in their use of their native English. Because of their reverence for God and His Word, only a principle of utmost accuracy in their translation could be accepted. Appreciating the intrinsic beauty of divine revelation, they disciplined their talents to render well-chosen English words of their time as well as a graceful, often musical, arrangement of language.0 -
I created a suggestion to track user interest: https://feedback.faithlife.com/boards/logos-data-sets/posts/wordsearch-king-james-version-kjv-reverse-interlinear
Bradley, thank you for being so responsive to users! When I saw how important the WS pericpopes were to other users, I checked out the resource as it downloaded and was underwhelmed. I don't know how difficult it is to align translation with RI. Sometimes it seems to happen rather quickly, and other times (NASB2020 [;)]) updates and Reverse Interlinears appear to be a bigger task.
I really appreciate all the work your team is doing with the WordSearch acquisition as well as other new products.
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Dale E Heath said:
If you click on the burger and select information, you get this:
by "the burger", do you mean "the kabob" I may be mistaken, but I believe the nicknames refer to
Dale E Heath said:The King James Version was translated...
I saw that info about the KJV history, but it doesn't specify WHICH KJV is used for this resource. Bradley's explanation of the Open Bible text satisfied my curiosity.
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David Thomas said:
by "the burger", do you mean "the kabob"
Yes, I'm confused by anything in the current century.[:O][:(]
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Kyle G. Anderson said:
Thank you for your feedback. We've discussed it internally and will be producing the WordSearch edition of the King James Version.
It will be available to you either Tuesday afternoon or Wednesday morning.
Hi Kyle,
When I purchase any other Bible version in Logos, it automatically comes with its own periscopes (headings, proper spacing, etc.).
I noticed you that there are not many options to purchase a KJV Bible with its own periscopes such as The Open Bible KJV, etc.
This was and still is a major disappointment.
The only reason Logos has a KJV with periscope NOW in its library is because of the decision to transfer WordSearch KJV edition into the Logos Library.
Is there a way to find a remedy to solve this major issue with our previous and future purchases of the KJV Bibles in Logos to include its own periscopes automatically come with the Bible when you purchase them in print?
I believe this is a huge oversight that has been overlooked.
Why doesn't Logos provide more selections with other KJV Study Bibles with periscopes?
Has anyone else noticed this same problem with the KJV Bibles in Logos?
Thank you for your time.
Blessings,
Curtis
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Curtis said:
However, we were just so excited to get this one to you we pushed it out early.
Hi Bradley,
Thank you so much for the early release of the KJV (WS). This is truly a blessing and much appreciated!
I just posted a question about why there are not more KJV Study Bibles in Logos with its own periscopes such as The Open Bible KJV.
I just found the NKJV Open Bible and I noticed that, too, does not include its own periscopes as the one in print.
https://www.logos.com/product/1231/the-open-bible
In fact, there is a note that includes: Please note: This product does not contain the Bible text, but it does include all the study notes found in the equivalent print version. You can purchase your preferred translation here or in a Logos Bible Software collection.So my question again, why doesn't these Bibles contain the Bible text that is suppose to come with the Bible, its own periscopes? There are other NKJV Bibles that do the same, they do not include the Bible text with periscopes.
And this goes for the KJV Bibles, too. The selection to purchase a KJV with its own periscopes such as the The Open Bible in KJV is not even available.
Why is this?
Thank you for your time.
Blessings,
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Curtis said:
So my question again, why doesn't these Bibles contain the Bible text that is suppose to come with the Bible
We generally sell the Study Bible content separately from the Bible text, for several reasons:
- You can link it with the Bible of your choice in Logos and scroll them side-by-side
- The paper format of Bible text alongside study notes generally doesn't function well in an ebook format (which is why we prefer two resources side-by-side)
- It can make the final product cheaper to license only the study notes, not the Bible text as well
Curtis said:
The selection to purchase a KJV with its own periscopes such as the The Open Bible in KJV is not even available.
Why is this?
When a resource isn't available in Logos, it can sometimes mean we have not been able to license it from the publisher, or that we haven't seen much user demand for it, or we don't think the revenue from selling it would pay for the cost of producing it.
We recommend making a suggestion at our "Book Requests" site for content you'd like to see in Logos: https://feedback.faithlife.com/boards/logos-book-requests. Our acquisitions team uses customer feedback to guide our selection of titles to include in Logos in the future.
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Dale E Heath said:David Thomas said:
by "the burger", do you mean "the kabob"
Yes, I'm confused by anything in the current century.
No worries, but for clarification via some illustrations:
A "burger" icon is three horizontal lines, and it kind of looks like this:
A "kebob" is three vertical dots and kind of looks like this:
The person who named them was hungry at the time.
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JT (alabama24) said:
A "kebob" is three vertical dots and kind of looks like this:
And just to make things more interesting with the International market of Faithlife [8-|]
"Kebab, (also kebap, kabob, kebob, or kabab) is an Iranian, Afghan, Middle Eastern, Eastern Mediterranean, and South Asian dish of pieces of meat, fish, or vegetables roasted or grilled on a skewer or spit originating either in the Eastern Mediterranean, or the Middle East, before spreading worldwide."
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I'm getting hungry.
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David Thomas said:
And just to make things more interesting with the International market of Faithlife
In most of the rest of the world, "kebab" means a "doner kebab" (which looks nothing like the three dots "shish kabob" icon).
https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Doner_kebab
(I personally avoid the "kebab menu" terminology entirely, as it's just completely mystifying to most people who have never heard it before.)
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I personally avoid the "kebab menu" terminology entirely, as it's just completely mystifying to most people who have never heard it before.
So you call it…?
(I most often use “three vertical dots,” but I like Kebob better)
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JT (alabama24) said:
So you call it…?
The official name is the "panel menu", and if I need to point to it, I either use a screenshot, or say "the three vertical dots in the top right corner of the panel".
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It doesn't exist until MP does a webinar on it! [;)]
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After reading this thread, I'd love to see your thoughts on simply adding pericopes headers to the KJV 1900. Obviously, there are many KJV Bibles (digital and print) that have pericope headers, and Logos is one of the only places it does not. Is there a reason they cannot be integrated?
EDIT: For the record, I am not suggesting adding anything to the text of the Bible, but rather suggesting having the option to turn on a set of pericope headers inline in the KJV 1900. I agree they should not add to, edit, or change the text. I would just like to see the data you can currently see in the pericope set tool inline in the KJV, preferably from one of the many KJV Bibles that has pericope headers (such as the Wordsearch KJV.
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Elijah Ketchum said:
After reading this thread, I'd love to see your thoughts on simply adding pericopes to the KJV 1900. Obviously, there are many KJV Bibles (digital and print) that have pericopes, and Logos is one of the only places it does not. Is there a reason they cannot be integrated?
From my perspective, they shouldn’t add things to the text that the translators didn’t put in.
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Elijah Ketchum said:
After reading this thread, I'd love to see your thoughts on simply adding pericopes to the KJV 1900.
The text should match the text of the resource given in the citation Logos does not even fix typographical errors that are in the original text without permission from the publisher. They certainly should not add text of any kind.
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Bradley,
Sorry if this has already been covered in another post. I have the WS KJV Bible and I thank Faithlife for getting it into Logos library. However, I have noticed that it does not link to my CBL Heb/Eng dictionary. Other KJV Bibles do but not the Wordsearch one.
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Just following up. I never got a response on my last post...
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David King said:
Just following up. I never got a response on my last post...
The reason is that there is no reverse-interlinear associated with it. Reverse interlinears, where available, are a separate purchase.
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