Turabian formatting wrong or user error?
When Logos automatically adds a footnote with Turabian formatting set, the formatting appears incorrect.
take for instance the following which was generated by logos 9 set to Turabian. 8tha and 9th.
Russell, D. S. 1968. Between the Testaments. Revised Edition. Philadelphia: Fortress Press.
a proper Turabian footnote it seems would be formatted as follows
D. S Russell, Between the Testament (Philadelphia: Fortress Press, 1987).,42
Logos has a fair bit of incorrect formatting in this case from the name being in the incorrect order, parenthesis missing around publisher and date, and missing the page number at the end. Some other forum posts have indicated this is due to the book not having the page number but this is not the case as compare the ABA formatted footnote that logos generates.
Russell, D. S. (1968). Between the Testaments (Revised Edition, p. 42). Fortress Press.
Is there someway to correct the formatting on my end short of rewritting each foot note or is this a defect in the application that needs to be resolved?
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- Notes and Bibliography, which is primarily for footnotes;
- and Author-Date, which is intended for in-text citations.
Thanks for this report. We were quite confused, until someone pointed out that Turabian 9th edition has two style approaches:
The formatting above seems to be correct for the Author-Date style, but it makes sense that it doesn't match what you were expecting. Logos primarily uses third-party CSL libraries to automate citations, and the Notes-and-Bibliography version of Turabian 9th isn't available yet. We will make sure to add it in the future. In the meantime, we've updated the name of the style in the software to be more transparent (coming in 9.11), and you'll probably want to use 8th edition for now.
As always when using automated citations, check the formatting against your style guide for correctness (just as you would for spellcheck or grammar corrections).
Adam / Andrew
A quick search on Zotero shows that the Turabian 9th ed Notes and Bibliography style (known also as the 'full-note' style) has been available for a while now.
Can this now be added?
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A quick search on Zotero shows that the Turabian 9th ed Notes and Bibliography style (known also as the 'full-note' style) has been available for a while now.
Can this now be added?
Thanks for the reminder. I've added a case to add this style.
Andrew Batishko | Logos software developer
If I select some text from the resource and copy and paste it here in the forum, here is what I get:
[quote]
For a short time during the reign of John Hyrcanus (i.e. Hyrcanus I, 134–104 B.C.) Judaea became a vassal state, but independence was regained in 129 B.C. and was confirmed by the Roman Senate.
D. S. Russell, Between the Testaments, Revised Edition. (Philadelphia: Fortress Press, 1968), 32.
This looks like what you are expecting. The format you are reporting is the resource citation. How are you getting what you see?
Andrew Batishko | Logos software developer
Here is what I get
[quote]
For a short time during the reign of John Hyrcanus (i.e. Hyrcanus I, 134–104 B.C.) Judaea became a vassal state, but independence was regained in 129 B.C. and was confirmed by the Roman Senate.
Russell, D. S. 1968. Between the Testaments. Revised Edition. Philadelphia: Fortress Press.
I am just copying from the text in the desktop app select text and then control C control V to paste as show in the image. Also including a copy of the program settings
I've just checked and with Turabian 8th I get page numbers in the citation while with Turabian 9th I don't
Thank you. This makes sense. We do have a case open for this issue with Turabian 9th. I don't have an estimate for when it will be resolved. I would recommend using 8th edition for now.
Andrew Batishko | Logos software developer