Files section/Personal Books

Calvin Habig
Calvin Habig Member Posts: 442 ✭✭
edited February 14 in English Forum

Has the "Files" section and the ability to share Personal Books" been deleted?  Since last I was here, it seems to have disappeared.  Has it been removed or put in a new location?

I will be quite distressed if it has been removed. 

Cal H.

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  • MJ. Smith
    MJ. Smith MVP Posts: 54,473

    It is a subforum at the bottom of the Desktop app

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  • Sam Shelton
    Sam Shelton Member Posts: 339 ✭✭

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  • Calvin Habig
    Calvin Habig Member Posts: 442 ✭✭

    Thanks to both of you. I just couldn't imagine them doing away with the entire forum.  MJ: I have benefitted so much from the PBs you have posted (I'm immediately thinking of the collections of creeds).  It would be a huge loss for those types of things to no longer be available. 

    Thanks to both of you.

  • Mike Childs
    Mike Childs Member Posts: 3,134 ✭✭✭

    I  hope I am not paranoid, but i think it was an attempt to discourage personal books.  


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  • JT (alabama24)
    JT (alabama24) MVP Posts: 36,521

    i think it was an attempt to discourage personal books.

    No. There was a desire to have greater organization, so subforums were created. No conspiracy. 

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  • Rosie Perera
    Rosie Perera Member Posts: 26,194 ✭✭✭✭✭

    i think it was an attempt to discourage personal books.

    No. There was a desire to have greater organization, so subforums were created. No conspiracy. 

    I can confirm what JT said. Users had complained about there being too many forums and it was hard to find stuff, so they introduced more of a hierarchy, moving old beta forums into subforums and such. Maybe they went overboard with moving the Files forum into a subforum of Desktop. But there was no intent to discourage the use of personal books.

  • Mike Childs
    Mike Childs Member Posts: 3,134 ✭✭✭

    It was certainly easier to find the files before the change.  


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  • Rosie Perera
    Rosie Perera Member Posts: 26,194 ✭✭✭✭✭

    It was certainly easier to find the files before the change.  

    Yes. I recommend bookmarking the new direct link: Files - Logos Forums

    I suppose we could petition for Logos to move it back to the main directory of forums, but they were loathe to mess around with the organization any further because this is old forum software, held together with duct tape, and some stuff would break. They weren't for example, able to move the "Fórum do Verbum Português" to be with the other foreign language forums. I would have preferred to see all of those foreign language forums demoted to subforums of a single "Foreign Language Versions" but that wouldn't have been fair to the speakers of other languages who might not understand the meaning of "Foreign Language Versions".

    Oh well. We'll live with the way it is until they replace this whole forum system with something new that I think they hope to eventually. They were experimenting with something and asked a few of us to try it out, but I haven't heard anything on that in months.

  • Yasmin Stephen
    Yasmin Stephen Member Posts: 1,690 ✭✭✭

    Oh well. We'll live with the way it is until they replace this whole forum system with something new that I think they hope to eventually. They were experimenting with something and asked a few of us to try it out, but I haven't heard anything on that in months.

    Maybe we'll get our wish (very?) soon ...

    I know you're just getting your feet wet, but can you look into the possibility of upgrading getting a new platform for the forums by year end. This one loads too slow and feels dated.

    Hopefully getting the contract signed in the next couple of days!

    (from this thread)

  • Rosie Perera
    Rosie Perera Member Posts: 26,194 ✭✭✭✭✭

    Oh well. We'll live with the way it is until they replace this whole forum system with something new that I think they hope to eventually. They were experimenting with something and asked a few of us to try it out, but I haven't heard anything on that in months.

    Maybe we'll get our wish (very?) soon ...

    I know you're just getting your feet wet, but can you look into the possibility of upgrading getting a new platform for the forums by year end. This one loads too slow and feels dated.

    Hopefully getting the contract signed in the next couple of days!

    (from this thread)

    [:O] I had missed that. Thanks.

  • Robert M. Warren
    Robert M. Warren Member Posts: 2,453 ✭✭✭

    oh swell ...

    Oh well. We'll live with the way it is until they replace this whole forum system with something new that I think they hope to eventually. They were experimenting with something and asked a few of us to try it out, but I haven't heard anything on that in months.

    Maybe we'll get our wish (very?) soon ...

    I know you're just getting your feet wet, but can you look into the possibility of upgrading getting a new platform for the forums by year end. This one loads too slow and feels dated.

    Hopefully getting the contract signed in the next couple of days!

    (from this thread)

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  • Calvin Habig
    Calvin Habig Member Posts: 442 ✭✭

    I find The new system incredibly more confusing.  

  • JT (alabama24)
    JT (alabama24) MVP Posts: 36,521

    I find The new system incredibly more confusing.  

    Just bookmark it. 

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  • Gerald Rodgers
    Gerald Rodgers Member Posts: 232 ✭✭

    The direct link is not available so where can I find the list of personal books that have been provided? I would agree the change that has taken place is very copnfusing. Help please ASAP. Thank you.

    Gerald

  • NB.Mick
    NB.Mick MVP Posts: 16,124

    The threads from the Files subforum should all have been tagged "Files" in the conversion. This tag can be used as a filter: https://community.logos.com/discussions/tagged/Files-66 and I have added it to the original post in this thread - just clicking that will show all threads tagged. Threads where PBs are shared should all be tagged acordingly in the future, allowing to find them more easily than in a subforum.

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  • Jason Stone (Logos)
    Jason Stone (Logos) Administrator, Logos Employee Posts: 860
    edited February 14

    Hey everyone, I wanted to jump back in and share a few thoughts!

    First and foremost, no changes to the community were made to discourage the use of Personal Books or any other part of our applications—there’s no conspiracy here! The goal of this new space is to improve and expand the community beyond the siloed forums, making it more accessible and helpful for everyone. If you ever feel otherwise, please don’t hesitate to reach out to me personally or email community@logos.com with any questions or concerns. We’re here to help!

    A quick note on Files—it’s now a tag, not a subforum. The main forums are organized by our core products (Logos, Verbum, Proclaim, and Books), while features and tools—like Personal Books—are filterable through tags. We understand that shifting away from so many separate subforums is an adjustment, but having a more communal space helps keep the conversation flowing and makes it easier for everyone to learn from each other. In fact, the sheer number of subforums before was a major barrier for new community members.

    If you’re looking for Personal Books, we’ve got you covered! There’s still plenty of information and an archive available in the Logos User Wiki, which we’re actively improving now that it’s migrated. You can find everything you need—including User-Contributed Personal Books—right here: https://community.logos.com/kb/articles/2181 .

    One last tip: Try out the community SEARCH feature! It’s amazing (and only getting better!). I did a quick search for “Personal Books” and easily found our wiki article, plus related discussions and support articles. It’s a powerful tool to help you find exactly what you need!

    Hope that helps, and thanks for being part of this community!

    Sr. Community Manager at Logos.

  • DMB
    DMB Member Posts: 14,049 ✭✭✭✭

    Well, it has a sense of humor anyway:

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  • Jason Stone (Logos)
    Jason Stone (Logos) Administrator, Logos Employee Posts: 860

    Sr. Community Manager at Logos.

  • Bill
    Bill Member Posts: 375 ✭✭✭
    edited February 14

    @Jason Stone (Logos) is it possible to have a notification preference for new posts and comments available for "Tagged" posts and a choice of tags to be notified on?

    Too soon old. Too late smart.

  • Calvin Habig
    Calvin Habig Member Posts: 442 ✭✭

    Oh, how I wish that were true. Unfortuantely, I do not believe that ("First and foremost, no changes to the community were made to discourage the use of Personal Books or any other part of our applications"). It fits perfectly well with Logos' long-time history of discouraging user innovation and driving everything towarad paid content. (even seeking to shut down others' lists of personal books they have made on their own websites).

    I posted this almost a year ago and still (after numerous attempts) have failed to find the illusive Personal Book Files "tag". Even MJ's (who I hold in the highest regard) link supposedly to it, is a dead link. When I put in "Personal Books" or "Files" all I get are articles about personal books, not the actual files.

    I have been a user since the 1990s (back when we received the program on 3.5" discs). I have contributed many PBs to the file section. If I, a long-time user cannot navigate this labyrinthine system, what hope does a new user have?

  • Jason Stone (Logos)
    Jason Stone (Logos) Administrator, Logos Employee Posts: 860

    @Calvin Habig, the link is broken but it was listed correctly by @NB.Mick above — it is as follows: https://community.logos.com/discussions/tagged/Files-66

    Sr. Community Manager at Logos.

  • Jason Stone (Logos)
    Jason Stone (Logos) Administrator, Logos Employee Posts: 860

    Click this blue link in the attached screenshot to be directed to the same place mentioned in my last comment, @Calvin Habig.

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  • Jason Stone (Logos)
    Jason Stone (Logos) Administrator, Logos Employee Posts: 860

    Tags do not allow for notifications. Are you curious to be notified every time a new Personal Book is shared with the community, or do you have something else in mind, @Bill?

    Sr. Community Manager at Logos.

  • Bill
    Bill Member Posts: 375 ✭✭✭

    Yes sir, I realize tag notices are not available now, I was wondering if they could be made available.

    My reasoning which may not be correct, is if It would help me be more selective in what I receive in my inbox to some of the post types that you have consolidated into the English forum that I used to be able to get without all the other clutter in the old forums. Files was only an example. I hope that makes sense.

    I understand that the "new" is to appeal to mobile users and improve accessibility to them and those who want to spend a lot of time on the internet in forums, but in doing so the design has made it more difficult for those of us who don't, and only want to be notified, by email, of threads that are important to us. We must take it all or nothing from the English forum. I know I can't change that back, I 'm just trying to find a way to mitigate the damage caused to my workflow in Outlook and still participate in what I'm interested in the forum without having to come here and wade through all the posts and that can't be done through the current notification preferences.

    Thank you for listening and for responding @Jason Stone (Logos)

    Too soon old. Too late smart.

  • Jason Stone (Logos)
    Jason Stone (Logos) Administrator, Logos Employee Posts: 860

    That’s a good idea! Unfortunately, we can’t subscribe to email notifications about specific tags (like Files) right now. However, we’ll keep an eye out and see if we can make that happen in the future.

    Sr. Community Manager at Logos.

  • Bill
    Bill Member Posts: 375 ✭✭✭

    Hi @Jason Stone (Logos) thanks for the follow up. Hopefully it will become available in the future then.

    Thank you for responding!

    Too soon old. Too late smart.