New Feature: Dynamic Resource Toolbar

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  • Tes
    Tes Member Posts: 4,032 ✭✭✭

    Tes said:

     I just clicled on " app.logos.com! " and have got this. 

    True, the link given at the beginning of this thread doesn't work for me either. Try this link: https://app.logos.com

    Or try searching Google for "Logos Web App."

    Thank you Aaron it works. I am now wondering what these new tools are.

    Blessings in Christ.

  • Kiyah
    Kiyah Member Posts: 2,823 ✭✭✭✭

    Am I missing something or does this mean the end of parallel resources button?

    This is available from the Change book button

    The placement of this dropdown made me completely miss it. It looks like just part of the reference box. It should be more prominently placed.

  • Graham Criddle
    Graham Criddle MVP Posts: 32,628

    In the web app toolbar the Corresponding words option is under the Reformat menu

    In the current beta of 34.0 on desktop, this option appears under Emphasize. Shouldn't these be consistent?

  • Tes
    Tes Member Posts: 4,032 ✭✭✭
  • Tes
    Tes Member Posts: 4,032 ✭✭✭

    Ali Pope said:

    We’re planning to bring this new toolbar to the desktop app in the near future, so we’d love to hear your thoughts of it on the web app.

    I would love to see it on Logos Desktop.

    Blessings in Christ.

  • MJ. Smith
    MJ. Smith MVP Posts: 53,401

    Was there no Factbook filter on the web?

    Orthodox Bishop Alfeyev: "To be a theologian means to have experience of a personal encounter with God through prayer and worship."; Orthodox proverb: "We know where the Church is, we do not know where it is not."

  • Nick Mueller
    Nick Mueller Member, Community Manager, Logos Employee Posts: 98

    MJ. Smith said:

    Was there no Factbook filter on the web?

    No, there was not a Factbook Tags visual filter on the web app.

  • Dave Hooton
    Dave Hooton MVP Posts: 35,767

    Kiyah said:

    Am I missing something or does this mean the end of parallel resources button?

    This is available from the Change book button

    ...

    The placement of this dropdown made me completely miss it. It looks like just part of the reference box. It should be more prominently placed.

    Agree.

    Dave
    ===

    Windows 11 & Android 13

  • Tes
    Tes Member Posts: 4,032 ✭✭✭

    Ah, missed that! Ok, that leaves the ability to put more than one Bible in a window.

    That feature has never been available on the web app. When we bring this toolbar to the desktop, there will be an option to add a parallel text on the View tab.

    it makes excited!

    Blessings in Christ.

  • Robert Kelbe
    Robert Kelbe Member Posts: 602 ✭✭✭

    Ali Pope said:

    After gathering feedback and brainstorming ways to enhance user experience, we’re confident that this update will make navigating your books much easier than before. Our primary goal was to make the toolbar more intuitive, ensuring that every feature is easily accessible and understandable. 

    Here’s what you can expect from our revamped toolbar:

    1. Simplicity at its Best: We’ve simplified the layout and removed any clutter, so you can focus on what matters most - reading your books efficiently.
    2. Clear Visual Cues: Each button is carefully designed to represent its function, making it easier than ever to find the tool you need.
    3. Streamlined Navigation: Say goodbye to endless menus and submenus! With our new toolbar, everything you need is just a click away.

    We’re committed to continuously improving your experience with our app.

    Thank you for asking for feedback! 

    This might not be fair but my first thought was "Oh no... what have they done now?" I preferred the old selection menu to the new insights menu, and I prefer the old resource toolbar to the new one. I would have preferred to focus on better tab behavior, an often-requested feature, rather than changing something that wasn't broken.

    Personally, I struggle to see how this makes "navigating your books much easier than before". Like the new insights selection menu on mobile, it just adds one layer of menus to get to what I need. I used to just click on the visual filter icon. Now I need to click on the "View" ribbon, then Visual filters? How is that saying "goodbye" to endless menus and submenus? I really don't understand the benefit... It seems like a major loss of efficiency. I am genuinely curious, if someone wants to explain where it actually is more efficient.

    Second, you say "We’ve simplified the layout and removed any clutter, so you can focus on what matters most - reading your books efficiently." Screen real estate is a precious commodity. As I see it, rather than allowing us to focus on our resources, you have increased the amount of space the resource bar takes up - not just one place, but in every pane! (I know you can collapse it, but that defeats the purpose of making them accessible, and you have to manually do it each time?). This is probably my main complaint.

    Third, you say, "Clear Visual Cues: Each button is carefully designed to represent its function, making it easier than ever to find the tool you need." I don't notice many differences in the icons, but I notice that each icon also has a label. This might appeal to the new user who has never used a particular button, but as soon as they have used it once they will know what it is, especially if each carefully designed. I'm happy they collapse to the icon when the pane is narrow, but still, the words are not visually appealing, especially as they show up on every pane, reminding me of how much space the new double-row resource menu is taking up.

    I like the way the parallel resources copies the Mobile version. In general, I think the Mobile version has some much more intuitive aspects to it and I'm happy to see the Mobile version influencing the Desktop version. The rest of it I really don't like...

  • Ali Pope
    Ali Pope Member, Logos Employee Posts: 1,821

    We appreciate your feedback, Robert. This new design is primarily aimed toward new users. We wanted to create a toolbar that everyone could understand and use almost immediately (without having to spend significant time learning). We recognize that this may disrupt the studying of our  advanced users for some time, but we hope that this will also be an improvement to you all as you become more familiar with it. 

    That being said, we released this toolbar to the web app first so that we could hear valuable feedback like yours, before bringing it to the desktop app. Thank you!

    Ali Pope | Logos Desktop and Mobile Program Manager

  • Dustin Gaskins
    Dustin Gaskins Member Posts: 5

    I use the online, not downloaded, version on my PC. For some reason, when I type in something like "Prov 31" and hit "enter", it does not take me to that place in the Bible anymore.

  • Graham Criddle
    Graham Criddle MVP Posts: 32,628

    Hi Dustin - and welcome to the forums

    I use the online, not downloaded, version on my PC. For some reason, when I type in something like "Prov 31" and hit "enter", it does not take me to that place in the Bible anymore.

    I see the same thing - but I suggest you start a new thread in this forum to explore this further. It might get lost in this thread - and it may not be related to the changes to the toolbar (it might but we don't know!)

    Graham

  • Dustin Gaskins
    Dustin Gaskins Member Posts: 5

    Thanks for the suggestion. It has begun to work now as well. Perhaps a temporary bug.

  • Mark Barnes (Logos)
    Mark Barnes (Logos) Administrator, Logos Employee Posts: 1,899

    In the web app toolbar the Corresponding words option is under the Reformat menu

    In the current beta of 34.0 on desktop, this option appears under Emphasize. Shouldn't these be consistent?

    Desktop has many more visual filters than the web app. So all the web app filters are put under Reformat, whereas on desktop we break them down into multiple categories.

  • J. R. Mount
    J. R. Mount Member Posts: 9 ✭✭

    I love this new toolbar.  It is a very simple format to use and I appreciate the streamlining of these tools.

    Thank you.

  • John Brumett
    John Brumett Member Posts: 295 ✭✭

    What is the default font? I tried to change it in settings but couldn't find it. 

  • Aaron Hamilton
    Aaron Hamilton Member Posts: 906 ✭✭✭

    What is the default font? I tried to change it in settings but couldn't find it. 

    It appears to me that the web app does not provide the option to change font. I do not know what the default font is for the web app, but I would guess that whatever it is, we're stuck with it.

  • RJ
    RJ Member Posts: 55 ✭✭

    No, the Logos page doesn't have that option. Fwiw, I have observed that there are two things going on. If you change your browser  to 'Use system font for webpages' (web app and beta) all the sans serif fonts in Logos will change to that—in my case SamsungOne—but the browser setting has no effect on the serif font in your resources*. I'm on an older Samsung Android tablet.

    * I now see the serif font in Factbook changes with the system font. 

  • John Bonk
    John Bonk Member Posts: 3

    I like to send hyperlinks to a different Bible. I don't see that option. But I  do like everything so far. 

  • Roy McDaniel
    Roy McDaniel Member Posts: 2

    I'm reading a book from my library and I cannot find the shortcut to get me back to my index of the book I am reading.

  • Richard Wardman
    Richard Wardman Member Posts: 1,356 ✭✭

    I'm reading a book from my library and I cannot find the shortcut to get me back to my index of the book I am reading.

    Hi Roy. Welcome to the forums. 

    I'm not sure what you mean by index, but you can navigate the book using the Contents button...

    Does that help?

    To be clear, this is in the new-look web app at https://app.logos.com/

  • David Jenkins
    David Jenkins Member Posts: 3

    I really like the new minimalisation of the tools.   
    I am a very new user of Logos, and have been frustrated by the way the bars, popups and the like seem to overwhelm the text when a few panes are open.

    The new Insights looks to be an advantage to someone like me who is new to Logos and doesn't know how to find the way around all of those "Tool" sets and Guides. 

    I was pondering what to do about the subscrition service, but would be more inclined for this much cleaner look. 

    Good Design is always in Style. 

    David

  • David Jenkins
    David Jenkins Member Posts: 3

    I really like the new minimalisation of the tools.   
    I am a very new user of Logos, and have been frustrated by the way the bars, popups and the like seem to overwhelm the text when a few panes are open.

    The new Insights looks to be an advantage to someone like me who is new to Logos and doesn't know how to find the way around all of those "Tool" sets and Guides. 

    I was pondering what to do about the subscrition service, but would be more inclined for this much cleaner look. 

    Good Design is always in Style. 

    David

  • David Jenkins
    David Jenkins Member Posts: 3

    Two things

    I can't seem to find Docs  Perhaps it never was on Web App? 

    and when I opened up a Passage guide, it responded in Spanish.   So now I have to learn yet another language. :-)

  • Super!

     Und wenn ich alle meine Habe zur Speisung ⟨der Armen⟩ austeile und wenn ich meinen Leib hingebe, damit ich Ruhm gewinne, aber keine Liebe habe, so nützt es mir nichts. 4 Die Liebe ist langmütig, die Liebe ist gütig, sie neidet nicht, die Liebe tut nicht groß, sie bläht sich nicht auf, 5 sie benimmt sich nicht unanständig, sie sucht nicht das Ihre, sie lässt sich nicht erbittern, sie rechnet Böses nicht zu, 6 sie freut sich nicht über die Ungerechtigkeit; sondern sie freut sich mit der Wahrheit, 7 sie erträgt alles, sie glaubt alles, sie hofft alles, sie erduldet alles. 8 Die Liebe vergeht niemals; seien es aber Weissagungen, sie werden weggetan werden; seien es Sprachen, sie werden aufhören; sei es Erkenntnis, sie wird weggetan werden. 9 Denn wir erkennen stückweise, und wir weissagen stückweise; 10 wenn aber das Vollkommene kommt, wird das, was stückweise ist, weggetan werden. 11 Als ich ein Kind war, redete ich wie ein Kind, dachte wie ein Kind, urteilte wie ein Kind; als ich ein Mann wurde, tat ich weg, was kindlich war. 12 Denn wir sehen jetzt mittels eines Spiegels undeutlich, dann aber von Angesicht zu Angesicht. Jetzt erkenne ich stückweise, dann aber werde ich erkennen, wie auch ich erkannt worden bin. 13 Nun aber bleibt Glaube, Hoffnung, Liebe, diese drei; die Größte aber von diesen ist die Liebe.

    we frequently use this- perfect new rollout tool.

    Lokks like that in our office and for our students.

    Great

    Thanks indeed! Love

    Elberfelder Bibel, SCM R. Brockhaus; Christliche Verlagsgesellschaft, Witten; Dillenburg 2016, 1. Kor 13,3–13.Ai 10



  • Benjamin V. Rideaux
    Benjamin V. Rideaux Member Posts: 6

    Mark, hello watching one of the New Early Access Logos with you and the other young man showing some of the new features in Logos "early access". This does not have a lot to do with what you taught, but I've reached out to Logos Team and instructor Shawn Grubb - on the Reading Plan, can we get a "Bi-weekly" option for any day of the week for reading or teaching in my case. I do a little reading and teaching every other Friday of the month. However, there's no way for me to print out a nice plan for the brothers at my church to follow. Can we get that option in Logos Reading Plan?

    Benjamin[:D]