Linux Version

benbrockn · 2020-12-30T15:32:36+00:00

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I would like a Linux version to download & use on my Desktop. I do not own Windows or MacOS, and I understand that it can be used via webapp, but a standalone Linux version would be better and more suitable to my devices.

Something that you all might be interested in, is creating an AppImage so that it can run on any Linux distribution (Ubuntu-based, Arch-based, Fedora, etc...).

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benbrockn

Hello, was there any update to this?

unknown

I definitely second this. I really want to move to PureOS on all my devices but can't because of this issue.

unknown

https://puri.sm/ for more info. Please Logos! Make it so!

Leslie Fox

Both my laptop and desktop failed to install even though they are Window 7 ultimate 64 bit systems and I am not sure Windows in stable enough for an upgrade. Will there be a Linux Logos?

unknown

Absolutely. Logos is literally the only software tying me to Windows and Mac OS. I’ve found good alternatives to everything else.

Malcolm

Yes I am wondering if Logos might be working toward a Linux version of Logos. It seems to me that there is a significant market for such a product worldwide.

bradley.grainger

There is a very long forum thread on getting Logos running on Linux, where you can ask for help (from other users) to get it installed: https://community.logos.com/forums/t/121.aspx

I think the latest instructions to get it installed are kept up-to-date here: https://github.com/ferion11/LogosLinuxInstaller

unknown

Hey, I have a few thoughts about this actually.

This would make Logos portable without Logos giving up their proprietary rights. Someone in an oppressed country could download Linux to an external hard drive, then install Logos on it. Then they could plug it in to any computer, connect to the internet, purchase Logos, smuggle it across the border (or if they can just use a VPN), and then they have Logos. It would also benefit countries that are shifting towards a more oppressive government. They could download a hard drive while they have an opportunity. People could buy your software for themselves, or to smuggle across borders. This is not unrealistic with modern computing speeds. A 20 dollar flash drive could realistically boot an OS and a purchased copy of Logos. This would open up a whole new market for Logos, and make you money in the long run.

Moreover, it would give me peace of mind as a user if I could download an external backup somehow. For example, I am not happy with the trajectory that Logos has been following theologically recently. Your desire to create a base package targeted just to black Christians demonstrates that you do not properly understand how all men are made in the image of God. More fundamentally, you do not seem to understand that certain faith traditions should not be sold because they are sinful and idolatrous. There is only one faith tradition that you should be selling. Why would a company, supposedly committed to Scripture, work to profit from false teachers? I find this very concerning and I would not purchase Logos today due to these concerns. Observing this trajectory in Logos causes me to desire some kind of backup.

I understand that I got in to the weeds a little bit there, towards the end so thanks for hearing me out.

-In His Grip
Andrew M.

Capulo, Filipe Paes

Run logos on Linux.

Tim Souther

I'm moving to Ubuntu Linux. Would love to be able to continue using Logos but, apparently, it can't be installed under that OS/Kernel.

unknown

As a guy looking for a reason to make my next Laptop a Linux machine, please add me to the list of people who really want a Linux version (I run Debian and Ubuntu on secondary machines, so a .deb installer would be ideal.)

jasonohrenberger

Hello! Suggesting and requesting a downloadable/installable desktop Logos for Linux.

MJ. Smith

See https://logos.feedbear.com/boards/logos-desktop-app/posts/linux-version where this request is marked "not yet"
See https://logos.feedbear.com/boards/faithlife-proclaim/posts/linux-web-version for a related request

unknown

I would like to add another request for a Linux version of LOGOS. Consider: the current culture in the United States does not approve of Biblical Christianity and if someone at APPLE or Microsoft got really aggressive, they could cripple the Christian community overnight by not supporting LOGOS/FaithLife or any other Christian organization who depends on those operating systems. A friend of mine told me this weekend that there is a grass roots group in the silicone valley who are working on a brand new LINUX OS version. If any of the LOGOS developers are aware of this, reaching out to these grass roots folks might be a good idea. Developing a LInux version of LOGOS is a good thing, and, I think, to do it before APPLE and Microsoft publicly show their antagonism towards FaithLife would be prudent.

benbrockn

Gary, there are 100s of flavors of Linux, so they probably don't know which one you're talking about.

Andy, instead of package installers (.deb, .rpm, etc), it would make way more sense to create a Logos AppImage. An AppImage is basically like an old school .exe file with all the needed dependencies inside. It's completely portable, you can use it on ANY Linux distro, you don't install it to your system, you just run the file.

I fear that if Logos is ported to Linux they'll only support the major distros which are Ubuntu based by putting it a .deb installer, which means other Linux gurus will have to repackage it themselves for Fedora, Arch, etc...

I've been using Linux for 11 years now, even as my daily driver. AppImages are the way to go, not specific installers which can devolve into "dependency hell". Check out https://www.appimagehub.com/ to see what I mean.

- Ben

Rob Rice

Yes please make logos availablefor Linux

Old Bonsai

Please, please give us a Linux version, the AppImages sound like the way to go.

I want nothing to do with Windows 11 which among other things requires you to log in to a Microsoft account to use your own computer! Company's like Apple and Microsoft are seeking more control over what users have on their desktops, just as apple and google now do with apps on phones. If they don't like it, i.e. Jesus Christ the Lord, they will call it hate speech and delete it or otherwise deny access.

People, especially Christians, need to stand against Windows 11. Please help us keep our freedom to worship and learn God's word by giving us a Linux option for your complete software package, thank you.

unknown

Agree with all the above - I'm not a fan of Microsoft Windows and Logos is a brilliant app - why can't it be used with Linux? Come on Faithlife - surely you can rise to this challenge!

unknown

Running Logos9 (and to my knowledge Logos10) is now possible on Linux!
https://appdb.winehq.org/objectManager.php?bShowAll=true&bIsQueue=false&bIsRejected=false&sClass=version&sTitle=&sReturnTo=&iId=39484
here is a wonderful wine page with info
You need to run it with a script, through terminal, the guide above walks you through it in the how to section, I run it on arch and it runs fine. Only a couple issues, don't be alarmed when your computer starts sweating during the library synchronization, this is normal, it will calm down once it is done.

here is the script-https://github.com/ferion11/LogosLinuxInstaller/releases

unknown

Please add me to the list of folks who are requesting this. I would love a linux version I can use offline. I am concerned about persecution in the future and would love to be able to ensure access to this great software that I have already invested heavily in.

unknown

I would also love to have the Linux option. Appimages would be ideal

unknown

Yes, please, a Linux version!

unknown

+1 on an AppImage. They could bundle wine or whatever other deps required. Having basic support from FaithLife would go a long way. I'm currently using the community Linux installer on Ubuntu.

Fr.Michael

The ability to work offline AND the ability to maintain data privacy are essential! With both Microsoft and Mac actively moving their desktops to the cloud, a standalone Linux Desktop application is going to be needed very soon!

See: https://www.theregister.com/2023/08/04/linux_desktop_cloud_desktops/
QUOTE: "Do you know who else won't be following Apple or Microsoft to the cloud? People who care about privacy, folks who want control over their data on their machines, and PC power users."

unknown

Seconded

Kelly Smith

I'm also interested in a Linux Version, you've got debian is fairly popular.

Bill Gross

Distributing Logos Desktop as an AppImage would make it easier to distribute than it used to be.

Using Logos Desktop for Windows via Wine doesn't work (for me) as of v29.1 (November 2023).

Linux is becoming more popular as people switch from more intrusive Windows versions (10, 11+).

Bill Gross

@Josh Bruhl I had Logos Desktop for Windows working via Wine until v29.1 (November, 2023). Then it broke. I am not adept enough with Wine to figure out how to fix it -- and I had been a software engineer prior to going to seminary.

Bill Gross

Most Logos users aren't computer techies. Having to use Wine is a showstopper for most.

Kelly Smith

Getting Logos up and running on Linux would be a wonderful boon, as the mainstream operating systems are not being run by folks who embrace Biblical values.

Could we export the Web App to our local machine and then be able to download our Libraries locally and run the Web App through a browser?

Matthias Aberham

There is an AppImage / snap (based on Wine) available for Logos10: https://snapcraft.io/logos10-unofficial
Installation worked fine.
When I tried to change settings with my mouse (e.g. change behavior on startup) the app is crashing. However, I found a workaround: By navigating and selecting the settings with the keyboard instead of the mouse I could change the startup behavior.
Performance is pretty decent (although a little slower than in Windows on the same computer). The app typically uses ca. 1.6 GiB memory.
You have to use the AppImage as it is - updates cannot be installed.

Matthias Aberham

@J S There is an AppImage for Logos 10: https://snapcraft.io/logos10-unofficial
See my post further down.

Matthias Aberham

@Keenan Davidson There is an AppImage for Logos 10: https://snapcraft.io/logos10-unofficial
See my post further down.

Matthias Aberham

@Benjamin Bryant There is an AppImage for Logos 10: https://snapcraft.io/logos10-unofficial
See my post further down.

unknown

Make it happen, guys! You can do it.

unknown

Yes please!

unknown

Logos is literally the only reason I can't properly move to Linux as my desktop OS. This would improve my Logos experience greatly.

unknown

I use the snap version of this, initially there where some issues with lagging when scrolling the library, but this usable by now even if not perfect. But apart from that it works pretty flawlessly. Though I think a native compilation of this app would still be better. I am also fine with the web version (I mostly use it anyway), though some stuff is missing or not as good in the web version.

So +1 for Linux support or full web support.

unknown

@Luca Adrian Lindhorst Does media playnack and sound work?

unknown

plzzzzzz

Jared A Warner

This really should happen. I do like the web app but it is not as streamlined as the desktop app. I use Linux most of the time for financial reasons (and others). Linux users do not necessarily need the latest features, but I know several people that would love to have the basic features natively supported. I do thank all those who have worked on this in the background. I use Logos on my Ubuntu laptop regularly but I know those that try to make this possible basically have to start over with each update released. We will spend money on library and would even spend money on additional features but if we could have a basic supported desktop release it would be great!

Jared A Warner

@Andrew M I have considered refurbishing old laptops and putting linux on them as the OS to send to mission fields, I have not actually moved forward with this because If I am going to send refurbished computers for ministry I really want to have logos available on it because access to a good library is difficult in some areas of the world. If there was a natively running version for Linux I would be scouring my community for any old laptops available.

unknown

I would like to be another voice of support for this idea. WE NEED A LINUX DESKTOP APP, PLEASE!!! I have two years' worth of PhD textbooks, which were provided only through Logos. Using Linux, there is currently no "offline" option.

Shara Heiniger (Logos)

I want to first thank you for producing a great product. It is certainly a blessing to those of us who use it regularly.

I would like to put in a formal request that Logos start working on a Linux based program. I recognize that Windows and MacBooks, along with Android and iOS have a dominant market share. But Linux has recently reach 4.5% of the desktop market share, nearly half of the Mac OS market share, and as Microsoft continues to establish questionable tools in Windows 11, I imagine they will steadily lose ground to Linux and Mac OS over the years.

I think it would be wise of Logos to start a Linux based program, while there are tools to port Logos to Linux machines, they are unstable at best for most users. The web app is a sufficient alternative for now, but still largely lacking in the same capabilities as a desktop client.

Distributions that would be best to start with would be Arch and Debian. These can easily be modified or used by the many distributions based on them.

unknown

Eu uso linux, mas para estudar no Logos tenho que executar uma VM com o windows. Seria excelente se houvesse uma versão do Logos para linux.

Lincoln Rus

I recently changed devices, from a laptop to a Samsung Tablet. It made more sense than spending thousands of dollars on a new laptop when I really only use my device to write sermons, do church work, and use Logos. However, Logos doesn't currently have an option for a Linux desktop app. The web app works ok, but it significantly less than the normal desktop app. Some of the tools (e.g. Side-by-side comparison, copy bible verse, etc.) were so simple but made life so much easier. With more and more people moving away from laptops to tablets, I think it makes a great deal of sense to have a Linux option that would run on a tablet, allowing this incredible tool and resource to continue to be used.

Taylor

See the forum discussion here:

https://community.logos.com/discussion/121/linux-version-of-logos-bible-software

Find our community-made installer here for an install through Wine:

https://github.com/FaithLife-Community/LogosLinuxInstaller

There was another feature request/feedback request for a Logos version back on UserVoice which may be lost now.

There are plenty of other forum posts like below, but the above is our mega-thread. We also have an active Telegram/Matrix community for chat.

https://community.logos.com/discussion/comment/1347355#Comment_1347355

Finally, while it may not yet make financial sense for FaithLife to invest in a Linux port, they have been more than helpful for the Linux community and our efforts to get the software running, going far beyond even just mere approval.

Joshua Kennedy

hey I am a Linux user and would like to have a native app for Linux so that I can access my books offline (there are times where I do not have Internet access or reliable Internet and not being able to access my books for study is frustrating) and get the same customisability as Windows and Mac users within the app. I know that there are plenty of other Linux users out there that would appreciate this! While I am appreciative of the web app and being able to use it, it is no where near as good.

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