Multiple Instances in Proclaim
Steven Stoops
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I would love to have the ability to open more than one instance of Proclaim at the same time
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Right now we have two services. A praise service and a hymnal service. Because the content in both services is significantly different, each week we duplicate the previous version of each service and just update the music and other minor revisions.
However, both services use essentially the same pre-service and post-service loops. But if we are working with 20 or more slides in the loop, it's hard to make sure we got all the slides updated / created in both services.
Because Proclaim can't have multiple presentations open at the same time, it would be really helpful if there was a way to compare 2 presentations and copy slides between them by dragging slides from one to the other. Right now, you have to go to Add Item => Reuse, but again, you can't actually see all the content in the other presentation, so you're relying on your memory or a screenshot of the program you had to create in order to know the 15 items you wanted to import this week from the other presentation, and then also the perfect order you decide for those beautiful slides you spent so much time on. Painful and tedious. If we could simply pull up two presentations in a side-by-side view, this would be much better.
An alternate would be to import a whole section - not just one slide at a time, but the whole pre-service loop, choosing to either insert it into the current loop or have it completely replace the existing slides with the imported one.
Whatever the solution, there needs to be an easier way for us to make sure we have all the announcements slides that we made in Service A imported to Service B than adding them 1 by 1 by 1 by 1 by 1 by 1 by 1 by 1 by 1 by 1...1 -
I think this would be helpful, for sure. I have found, however, that you can select all the slides you want in your other presentation and copy them all at once and then paste them into your other presentation and then just drag them around to where you want them. Not as convenient as what your suggesting, but workable when the items are close together.0
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While this may be an interesting addition to Proclaim, I find what Tim Cromwell
mentions is quite acceptable. Its simple enough to have "Service A" as the the one you
create all the fresh, updated announcement slides in and when you are finished just select all the slides, copy them (Cntrl-C), open "Service B" and paste (Cntrl-V) them into it.0 -
As an advanced user, it's easy for me and you to do that. For most basic users, copying using keyboard shortcuts is minimally not apparent. Proclaim built tools like "Reuse Item" for those users, but "Reuse Item" needs refurbishing to meet more complex needs like the one described.0
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@George Krahn That might be ok if you only have 1 group to copy or if you could have multiple services open at once. We have to go back and forth 3 times to copy pre-service, warm-up, and post-service.0
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@Tyler Rasmussen Being able to reuse entire pre/post-service loops would be great!0
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I also would like to have two presentations open simultaneously for comparisons and bringing selected slides over without having to bounce back and forth. It's "Workable" to do the workarounds provided, but having a software adaptation to simplify it would be super awesome. I came to make this suggestion.0
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Yes this would be fantastic!!!!!0
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Hi @Steven Stoops and @Timothy Henderson , can you tell me more about your use case? Are you working on multiple upcoming services at a time?0
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@David Cosand Yes, I like to plan about 2-4 weeks ahead if I can. Some announcements will be added, some removed, &c... It would be nice to open more than one at a time (in tabs?) so that I can compare them side by side and easily copy and paste what I want and remove what I don't. In the current system I have to open one, copy, open the other, and paste. Then keep going back and forth to make sure I have it the way I want. I understand I can "duplicate" that's not the answer for being able to compare / copy / paste / &c. multiple presentations when trying to work ahead.0
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@David Cosand Exactly what @Timothy Henderson is saying. I work weeks ahead and sometimes it would be helpful to look at presentations side by side. Duplicating a service item is all well and good, IF you can recall what you named it in the first place. We also show Christian or family friendly movies a couple times a month and I create a pre-movie reel for people to watch while they are waiting, it would be a great addition for this because I create items based on what month it is and I would like to be able to open one of these presentations from last February or March so I can see what I named the service items. Having to go back and forth is really time consuming.0
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I don’t see the need for it, but I’m not opposed to it.0
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@Tyler Rasmussen Even then, CTRL-C only works 20% of the time for me, on my home PC, laptop, and the one in the sanctuary. I have to use the right-click menu to be sure.0
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I'm very much in favor of this. It is bad enough to try to sync prelude and postlude slides where the similar but different, let alone last month's presentation to this week's.
And often, if I right click on "prelude">copy, the clipboard doesn't have what I just copied by the time I open the new presentation and try to paste it.0 -
Yes, this feature would be very helpful.0
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I don’t think I’d use this feature very often.0
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I'm not against this feature, but I do think you could use "save as" on in this case, duplicate once you have your master pre/post copy done. But I do understand things change minutes or even seconds before start.0
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I do it every week ... File/Duplicate or File/Duplicate Recent ... everything is copied from one presentation to the next then modify the new presentation as needed.0
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@Pastor David That is my normal process, but there are occasions that I need items from several months back, I can use the reuse function -- provided I can recall what we named it when we created that presentation X number of months ago.0
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@Evan yes, maybe even have a separate category where you can create sections of service ie pre/post-service loops, and then have a master/live set where you can just add that section, so you don't have to create a new service loop every time. A good example would be OBS using nested scenes. But for Proclaim it would be different like I said. Break service down more, instead of the current way of "Grouping" which just makes the service extremely cumbersome if you have more than 5 slides. So yes Proclaim does need a new approach.0
