Support real highlighting (without the creation of a note)
Mirko Walter
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Please add a feature to highlight text without creating notes every time. Maybe by adding an option to the custom highlight definitions "create note/don't create note" (technically it could be an invisible note-entry or something like that - keep it simple and doing it this way makes "converting" a highlight to a note simple).
And please add customizable icons/iconcolors for the custom highlightings icons used in context menus and smaller areas (right now every custom highlight gets an gray icon - all get the same one).
And please add customizable icons/iconcolors for the custom highlightings icons used in context menus and smaller areas (right now every custom highlight gets an gray icon - all get the same one).
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It will be perfect.0
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What problem are you trying to solve?0
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@phil-gons this would stop the flooding of my notes with empty and useless notedocuments, which only are a placeholder for highlightings. I use highlighting VERY intensive when reading books (hundreds of empty notes); currently I use a notebook for collecting the highlighting-only-notes, but as I cannot make a notebook (including its notes) invisible (that would be another working solution for me) this is not as good as it could be;
the colored icons would help using the correct highlighting from the context menu without waiting for the hover text (currently the custom highlightings all look the same). This way I can finally close the highlight-tab and have more usable space for texts.0 -
If you come from an IT background, you will understand that highlighting is simply a type of note - visual rather than verbal. I would MUCH rather that you present the request in terms of an option to hide notes that are non-verbal (i.e. highlight only). This would raise a design issue with regards to labels, but that is a resolvable problem.
Orthodox Bishop Alfeyev: "To be a theologian means to have experience of a personal encounter with God through prayer and worship."; Orthodox proverb: "We know where the Church is, we do not know where it is not."
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@mjespuiva-86 FYI you already can filter notes by type (note or highlight). But this is not working as you would expect, as the note type highlight can have text - and you can't chance the type.
A possible solution could be to allow changing the type - or recognize, when a type highlight note contains text and automatically change the type.
This would solve one problem. The other (same icon for every custom highlighting) would stay.
I will not make another feature request, but sure faithlife may do whatever seems the best solution for them :)0 -
@mirkodwalter-96 Please continue to make feature requests ... I was simply providing a counter-proposal that would achieve what you need in a more practical manner -- I did so to indicated that I basically support your request if it is achieved in an alternative manner. There was no intent to undermine the value of your contribution.
Orthodox Bishop Alfeyev: "To be a theologian means to have experience of a personal encounter with God through prayer and worship."; Orthodox proverb: "We know where the Church is, we do not know where it is not."
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@mjespuiva-86 I'm sorry, I meant "another feature request _for this topic_" :D
Different views on the same problem is a good thing, so I'm glad you contributed to this!0 -
@phil-gons I agree 100% with Mirko. This has been brought up in the forums a number of times.
In my thinking, and others, we are used to highlighting dead tree books with no expectation of it creating a blank note along with it.
Logos also gives us the ability to create a note in which we can add a highlight and an icon in the text which leads us back to the note if we choose.
In some users minds these are distinctly different functions along with distinctly different expected results.Too soon old. Too late smart.
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Excuse me ... real highlighting IS a note from the perspective of data analysis/design. One has to store the location and type of highlight. Invisibility of highlighting notes would make it nearly impossible to selectively delete one of multiple highlights at a given location which would make highlights absolutely useless to me.
Users have enough trouble keeping by selection and be reference straight and already get confused when they unintentionally make notes without icons. I don't disagree with your goal but rather think that significant thought needs to be put into finding a workable solution - I would suggest something along the lines of a filter to screen out all highlight only notes. Something that would preserve its setting until explicitly reset.Orthodox Bishop Alfeyev: "To be a theologian means to have experience of a personal encounter with God through prayer and worship."; Orthodox proverb: "We know where the Church is, we do not know where it is not."
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@mjespuiva-86 my appologies. I see I had responded previously ... and I see that our ability to edit a post applies only to the initial entry.
Orthodox Bishop Alfeyev: "To be a theologian means to have experience of a personal encounter with God through prayer and worship."; Orthodox proverb: "We know where the Church is, we do not know where it is not."
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I've been using Logos since it was DOS
I asked for the exact feature Mirko is asking for, years ago. I simply quit asking because it was never implemented. And, I've read the comments below from those in the IT/Programming world. I understand what they are saying.
However, comma, I just opened my Pocket Bible Study App (Lairidian), brought up my ESV and highlighted two verses, using two different colors, in Genesis 1.
I needed no note, I needed no explanation, I needed nothing but to click on a verse number and choose to highlight the text (and then pick a color). Yes, I can choose to add a note. No, I don't need to add a note.
Please do not tell me this cannot be done in Logos, or that there is a MUST HAVE reason why it is has to be done the way it is within Logos. The competitor has already demonstrated that it can be done, and implemented rather elegantly.
Just sayin'
Blessings
DaleDale Durnell
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@Dale Durnell Two questions: Is there no note entry or is it simply hidden from you and/or shuttled off into a separate "note file". How does it handle deleting one of multiple highlights on the same text? Don't confuse what is shown to the user with what must be happening in the background. I personally want to see what is going on so I can understand difficult situations - I don't like the system hiding what it is doing so I can decipher what is happening when I'm not getting the expected results.
Orthodox Bishop Alfeyev: "To be a theologian means to have experience of a personal encounter with God through prayer and worship."; Orthodox proverb: "We know where the Church is, we do not know where it is not."
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