Version 2.0

Not saying this is what is going to be called, but this statment by Dave Dunkins seems to me to say that a major update is coming.

The seemingly plateaued state of the app is because we were hitting the limits of what we could do with small changes and are now working on big changes, specifically integrating the full Logos display engine. Big changes take longer. Notes and highlighting are coming, just not as soon as we would all like. Thanks for your patience.

So, if version 2 is coming (or something like it; a major update), here is what I am hoping will be added and possible with the new update.

copy/paste
highlighting/markup
note taking and syncing with desktop
fully offline installation - only needs to be online to sync or download books

That is also in order of importance for me. What do you want?

Find more posts tagged with

Mobile App

Comments

Ron

In addition to the features you listed, I'd like to see (in no particular order)

1. footnotes available offline (not sure whether this is possible/how easy it would be)

2. Some sort of equivalent to the cited by tool

3. Ability to search within offline books (nothing fancy, just a "find" feature within the currently opened book would be nice)

EDIT 4. Oooh, and Biblical People/Places/Things would be AWESOME!

@Dave - I know you can't commit to a date or anything (and I don't expect you to), but any chance of a broad hint of how far out this major update is? Are we talking weeks? Months? Half a year? Tomorrow? [:P] (Kidding on that last one [;)] )

lostlogik

And of course, two windows open at once allowing active linked books.

Matt B

prayer list sync!

Kevin A. Purcell

1. footnotes available offline (not sure whether this is possible/how easy it would be)

3. Ability to search within offline books (nothing fancy, just a "find" feature within the currently opened book would be nice)

Actually these would be solved by what I envision as offline installation.

Fred Greco

Prayer list sync

Highlighting that carries over to Logos.

Jonathan

In order of importance:

1. Highlighting and Notes (a must); clippings (maybe...)

2. Dual resource view although this may only be practical for the ipad. What's an iphone anyway? :-)

3. Better original language "stuff." I have never enjoyed using original language resources on the Logos ipad app. I would love to see something that could parse (quickly) on the fly when I am listening to a sermon or doing a quick study of the Greek/Hebrew. It needs to be more "snappy" and have the ability to quickly pull up a lexical entry.

4. New UI layout (maybe), or something more Ipad specific. With the Ipad you've got a lot more space for an elegant UI. I am okay with the one we've got, but I could imagine something better.

5. *I am not sure if this is even on their radar, but sentence diagramming on the ipad would, IMHO, be an awesome experience. It would really give you the feeling of "interaction" you miss when you are diagramming with a mouse.

6. How about an integration of book deals, blog articles, and the like. I could see Logos doing a great job with this.

7. A "preaching" portion for the app which would allow linking of information, texts, illustrations, maybe even powerpoint integration (you could even use a Logos button to advance slides running off a computer connected to a wireless network).

Brent Daniel

My prioritized list of features is as follows:

1. Fully offline installation

2. Fully offline installation

3. ...

The reason for my beating on the "fully offline installation" is that I expect it would include many of the features other users are requesting including:

a. Full support for offline support footnotes and references

b. Viewing highlighting done in Logos 4 ... and likely some highlighting capability (which may have to be simplified due to the constraints of the iTouch form factor.

c. Copy and paste - again potentially constrained due to the form factor

d. Notes ??? I am personally not looking forward to typing notes on a virtual keyboard. Now, if there was a Logos app. for a smartphone that had a decent keyboard - say maybe for the new BB Torch, then note taking may be manageable.

Not saying this is what is going to be called, but this statment by Dave Dunkins seems to me to say that a major update is coming.

The seemingly plateaued state of the app is because we were hitting the limits of what we could do with small changes and are now working on big changes, specifically integrating the full Logos display engine. Big changes take longer. Notes and highlighting are coming, just not as soon as we would all like. Thanks for your patience.

So, if version 2 is coming (or something like it; a major update), here is what I am hoping will be added and possible with the new update.

copy/paste

highlighting/markup

note taking and syncing with desktop

fully offline installation - only needs to be online to sync or download books

That is also in order of importance for me. What do you want?

UncleBob

Actually, the iPad is a great option for notetaking on the go (not so much for iPhone though).

You can purchase (from Apple) a real keyboard for the iPad that also props up the iPad (in portrait orientation) right in front of you. It is full size and is a dream to type on.

You can also download an iPad app -- Tap Typing is the name I believe -- which will give you touch typing lessons (and pointers along the way) using your virtual iPad keyboard. It will improve both your typing speed and also accuracy. I enjoy virtual typing (and am much better at it) having worked thru many of the typing lessons.

Personally, I can't WAIT for the iPad/iPhone app to be updated. . .

bob

Tom Geswein

I would like to have a way of looking through my library a little easier. Something similar to the alphabet on the right side of the screen, the way the ipod handles music. It would also be nice to be able to filter your library to only show downloaded resources or those not downloaded (to make downloading easier.)

Linden

Below are my prioritized feature requests:

1. Prayer list sync.

2. Copy/paste

3. Multiple open windows (at least two)

4. Interlinear Bible View

I see that iPad prayer list sync is very popular on this thread. Can everyone that wants this feature vote for it here:

http://logos.uservoice.com/forums/42823-logos-bible-software-4/suggestions/655839-add-prayer-list-on-iphone-ipad-ipod

Jon

I would love to see all of these updates mention previous but I would also like to see

1. folders in favorites and/or

2. Verse lists.

I just want to have lists of verses that are encouraging, for hospital visits, and theological issues i deal with. I like during visits to read a verse or two and it takes a bit longer to try to remember it, then find it, and then read it. It would also be nice to have a start toggle which should be easy enough because it would help just to mark a couple for easy finding when i go to head into a hospital room. I think with either of these additions i would be able to use it the way i want.

Kenneth Neighoff

You can purchase (from Apple) a real keyboard for the iPad that also props up the iPad (in portrait orientation) right in front of you. It is full size and is a dream to type on.

I had an old bluetooth keyboard from my Palm days. It is a full sized keyboard and it works with the IPad. This saved me some money.

Ralph A. Abernethy III

1. Highlighting.

2. Note-taking.

3. Copy/paste.

4. Take over mortgage payments.

Dr. Ivan Ramirez

you guys are doing a great job on the app so far. I would love to see the following

1. Exegetical guide

2. dictionary (like kindle)

3. multiple windows

4. drastically improved home screen

5. everything all the others said

6. cure for cancer

Robert Mullen

1. Exegetical guide

2. Multiple windows / Layouts

3. Notes

4. Full offline mode

5. This year

6. This year

Seriously. The other bible readers out there are doing these things right now and they do them with small teams. I don't mean to be ungracious but I have come to expect a lot from Logos.

rog

I like what is above, two more:

1. Clippings - I use them in my sermon prep and would be very helpful - if I'm limited to notes, I can cross over, but they don't naturally hold the reference material (I think)

2. Don' t limit the iphone because some think you can't take notes on it, or do major work on it. I do and would love to have as many possibilities open to it as "possible"

Thanks for a great app!

PS - like the cure for cancer one too, Ivan! [;)]

James Lum Siak Foong

Yes, agreed, Prayer List to be sync to iPhone, that will be great.

Bob Turner

copy and paste as well as highlight & prayer lists.

Bob Turner

would really love to see a reverse interlinear for the iPad.

Jeremy

The ability to see all of the alphabetized table of contents of dictionaries. Right now you can only scroll down to part of them which makes finding an entry that does not come up very very difficult.

Randall Hartman

Could someone--anyone at Logos PLEASE give us a projected date for the new release? Is this 5 years out? 5 months? 5 weeks? 5 days? 5 minutes? [8-|]

Bob Pritchett

Seriously. The other bible readers out there are doing these things right now and they do them with small teams. I don't mean to be ungracious but I have come to expect a lot from Logos.

Ouch! :-)

The other Bible readers have larger teams, actually -- since their whole team is dedicated to mobile, and we have to share our (larger overall) team with Windows, Mac, web, etc. (And did I mention ours is free? :-) )

The next release isn't going to have everything you want, because the next release just gets the desktop display engine onto the iPhone for use with offline books. This is a major job, since our desktop display engine is very mature and powerful; but it's also essential to making everything else work. And once it's there, we'll have essentially the same display on all platforms. It's like we're behind...and then one day we'll jump way out in front...

Bob Turner

the next release just gets the desktop display engine onto the iPhone

wow... wait... does this mean we will have the Home Page on the iPhone & iPad?

or am i reading that wrong?

Dan Francis

[The next release isn't going to have everything you want, because the next release just gets the desktop display engine onto the iPhone for use with offline books. This is a major job, since our desktop display engine is very mature and powerful; but it's also essential to making everything else work. And once it's there, we'll have essentially the same display on all platforms. It's like we're behind...and then one day we'll jump way out in front...

Does that mean everything readable by the desktop will be on our iOS devices???? "Same display on all platforms", makes me think that we should be capable of reading all the same files... I do know we will never et everything, everyone wants on their iOS, it;s just not that powerful, but ability to read all of our books offline would have me tickled pink.

-dan

Kevin A. Purcell

Seriously. The other bible readers out there are doing these things right now and they do them with small teams. I don't mean to be ungracious but I have come to expect a lot from Logos.

Ouch! :-)

The other Bible readers have larger teams, actually -- since their whole team is dedicated to mobile, and we have to share our (larger overall) team with Windows, Mac, web, etc. (And did I mention ours is free? :-) )

Actually the others don't have larger teams. If I am right Logos for iOS is being programed by 2 people at the time. Of the other major apps, only one that I know of has more than 2 iOS programmers working on a Bible app. Obviously I may have missed some, but I've had contact with the developers of what I call the big four apps. There is one that I do not put in that category as it is mostly just a Bible reader app, but it is the only other one that has a team that I know of.

Nathan Parker

Exegetical Gude would make me happy!

Dennis Miller

Well, hopefully the next Logos iOS update will include the following:

All your purchased desktop modules downloadable and available on the device.

Side by Side display of text and or resource with sync scrolling.

Notes capability that can be sync'd with your desktop app.

and many more helpful features.

Dan Francis

Well, hopefully the next Logos iOS update will include the following:

All your purchased desktop modules downloadable and available on the device.

Side by Side display of text and or resource with sync scrolling.

Notes capability that can be sync'd with your desktop app.

and many more helpful features.

Thats my dream Logos too, and I know it is doable, it;s just a matter if Logos wants to put in the time and effort to allow us to sync from our computers. Accordance will have this feature, even with yesterdays release without it, i see included is the ability to have Bible Knowledge Commentary, the NIV and New Jerusalem Bible. All items that Logos has not been able to offer owners of these resources. If we get enough people asking for it maybe desktop app sync can become a reality for Logos iOS but somehow I doubt it, since they have told us time and again it can't be done.

-Dan

Dennis Miller

Like you I quit listening to the promises and the excuses and moved on.

T Gerold Castle

Thats my dream Logos too, and I know it is doable, it;s just a matter if Logos wants to put in the time and effort to allow us to sync from our computers. Accordance will have this feature, even with yesterdays release without it, i see included is the ability to have Bible Knowledge Commentary, the NIV and New Jerusalem Bible. All items that Logos has not been able to offer owners of these resources. If we get enough people asking for it maybe desktop app sync can become a reality for Logos iOS but somehow I doubt it, since they have told us time and again it can't be done.

-Dan

The Accordance ipad app is impressive indeed.

Jonathan Sine

I suppose some people will never be happy. Can't we get to the point where we are thankful that we now have unprecedented access to studying God's Word instead of constantly focusing on what we lack? Having been communicating with some of our supported missionaries and seeing the joy that comes to tribal people when they merely have a print New Testament in their own language, I can't believe how ungrateful we have become.

Here's looking to a year that's filled with not only the mass accumulation of resources, but increased devotion to knowing our great Savior! [Y]

Claudia Robinson

I would like to see to home page of the desktop version available for the iPad.

Kevin A. Purcell

The Accordance ipad app is impressive indeed.

How so. I was not impressed. But maybe I missed something. This might help the Logos developers to know what was so great about it. To me it looked very limited and extremely simplistic. Don't not offer nearly what Logos and the other offer.