Version 2.0
Not saying this is what is going to be called, but this statment by Dave Dunkins seems to me to say that a major update is coming.
The seemingly plateaued state of the app is because we were hitting the limits of what we could do with small changes and are now working on big changes, specifically integrating the full Logos display engine. Big changes take longer. Notes and highlighting are coming, just not as soon as we would all like. Thanks for your patience.
So, if version 2 is coming (or something like it; a major update), here is what I am hoping will be added and possible with the new update.
- copy/paste
- highlighting/markup
- note taking and syncing with desktop
- fully offline installation - only needs to be online to sync or download books
Dr. Kevin Purcell, Director of Missions
Brushy Mountain Baptist Association
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- copy/paste
- highlighting/markup
- note taking and syncing with desktop
- fully offline installation - only needs to be online to sync or download books
My prioritized list of features is as follows:
1. Fully offline installation
2. Fully offline installation
3. ...
The reason for my beating on the "fully offline installation" is that I expect it would include many of the features other users are requesting including:
a. Full support for offline support footnotes and references
b. Viewing highlighting done in Logos 4 ... and likely some highlighting capability (which may have to be simplified due to the constraints of the iTouch form factor.
c. Copy and paste - again potentially constrained due to the form factor
d. Notes ??? I am personally not looking forward to typing notes on a virtual keyboard. Now, if there was a Logos app. for a smartphone that had a decent keyboard - say maybe for the new BB Torch, then note taking may be manageable.
Not saying this is what is going to be called, but this statment by Dave Dunkins seems to me to say that a major update is coming.
The seemingly plateaued state of the app is because we were hitting the limits of what we could do with small changes and are now working on big changes, specifically integrating the full Logos display engine. Big changes take longer. Notes and highlighting are coming, just not as soon as we would all like. Thanks for your patience.
So, if version 2 is coming (or something like it; a major update), here is what I am hoping will be added and possible with the new update.
That is also in order of importance for me. What do you want?
Actually, the iPad is a great option for notetaking on the go (not so much for iPhone though).
You can purchase (from Apple) a real keyboard for the iPad that also props up the iPad (in portrait orientation) right in front of you. It is full size and is a dream to type on.
You can also download an iPad app -- Tap Typing is the name I believe -- which will give you touch typing lessons (and pointers along the way) using your virtual iPad keyboard. It will improve both your typing speed and also accuracy. I enjoy virtual typing (and am much better at it) having worked thru many of the typing lessons.
Personally, I can't WAIT for the iPad/iPhone app to be updated. . .
bob
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You can purchase (from Apple) a real keyboard for the iPad that also props up the iPad (in portrait orientation) right in front of you. It is full size and is a dream to type on.
I had an old bluetooth keyboard from my Palm days. It is a full sized keyboard and it works with the IPad. This saved me some money.
1. Highlighting.
2. Note-taking.
3. Copy/paste.
4. Take over mortgage payments.
I would like to have a way of looking through my library a little easier. Something similar to the alphabet on the right side of the screen, the way the ipod handles music. It would also be nice to be able to filter your library to only show downloaded resources or those not downloaded (to make downloading easier.)
"It seems our problems solve themselves when we look beyond us to those truly in hell." - Beyond Our Suffering - AILD
Below are my prioritized feature requests:
1. Prayer list sync.
2. Copy/paste
3. Multiple open windows (at least two)
4. Interlinear Bible View
I see that iPad prayer list sync is very popular on this thread. Can everyone that wants this feature vote for it here:
Linden
I would love to see all of these updates mention previous but I would also like to see
1. folders in favorites and/or
2. Verse lists.
I just want to have lists of verses that are encouraging, for hospital visits, and theological issues i deal with. I like during visits to read a verse or two and it takes a bit longer to try to remember it, then find it, and then read it. It would also be nice to have a start toggle which should be easy enough because it would help just to mark a couple for easy finding when i go to head into a hospital room. I think with either of these additions i would be able to use it the way i want.
you guys are doing a great job on the app so far. I would love to see the following
1. Exegetical guide
2. dictionary (like kindle)
3. multiple windows
4. drastically improved home screen
5. everything all the others said
6. cure for cancer
Seriously. The other bible readers out there are doing these things right now and they do them with small teams. I don't mean to be ungracious but I have come to expect a lot from Logos.
Ouch! :-)
The other Bible readers have larger teams, actually -- since their whole team is dedicated to mobile, and we have to share our (larger overall) team with Windows, Mac, web, etc. (And did I mention ours is free? :-) )
The next release isn't going to have everything you want, because the next release just gets the desktop display engine onto the iPhone for use with offline books. This is a major job, since our desktop display engine is very mature and powerful; but it's also essential to making everything else work. And once it's there, we'll have essentially the same display on all platforms. It's like we're behind...and then one day we'll jump way out in front...
the next release just gets the desktop display engine onto the iPhone
wow... wait... does this mean we will have the Home Page on the iPhone & iPad?
or am i reading that wrong?
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the next release just gets the desktop display engine onto the iPhonewow... wait... does this mean we will have the Home Page on the iPhone & iPad?
or am i reading that wrong?
You are reading it wrong, I'm afraid. What Bob is talking about is the way the various resources are displayed. Currently, the Logos internet server converts all Logos resources from their native format into a simpler XHTML format that the iPhone app understands. This cut down the work that was required to build the app, but it limited what could be achieved beyond displaying simple resources. So the new version won't need the server to convert native Logos files, but will understand them itself.
This should open the way for displaying highlighting, interlinears, complex tables and the like, none of which are currently possible. But how much of this will be possible with the initial release of the display engine, I don't know. The hints that we've had suggest that not all these features will be available immediately.
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THE best thing about the iPad app is the book-like reading experience. It sounds like we are about to lose that. I don't know that anyone asked for the same display engine, we just wanted to be able to take notes and highlight. If we lose the book-like reading experience I think it will undo everything good about the app!
[The next release isn't going to have everything you want, because the next release just gets the desktop display engine onto the iPhone for use with offline books. This is a major job, since our desktop display engine is very mature and powerful; but it's also essential to making everything else work. And once it's there, we'll have essentially the same display on all platforms. It's like we're behind...and then one day we'll jump way out in front...
Does that mean everything readable by the desktop will be on our iOS devices???? "Same display on all platforms", makes me think that we should be capable of reading all the same files... I do know we will never et everything, everyone wants on their iOS, it;s just not that powerful, but ability to read all of our books offline would have me tickled pink.
-dan
Seriously. The other bible readers out there are doing these things right now and they do them with small teams. I don't mean to be ungracious but I have come to expect a lot from Logos.Ouch! :-)
The other Bible readers have larger teams, actually -- since their whole team is dedicated to mobile, and we have to share our (larger overall) team with Windows, Mac, web, etc. (And did I mention ours is free? :-) )
Actually the others don't have larger teams. If I am right Logos for iOS is being programed by 2 people at the time. Of the other major apps, only one that I know of has more than 2 iOS programmers working on a Bible app. Obviously I may have missed some, but I've had contact with the developers of what I call the big four apps. There is one that I do not put in that category as it is mostly just a Bible reader app, but it is the only other one that has a team that I know of.
Dr. Kevin Purcell, Director of Missions
Brushy Mountain Baptist Association
I like what is above, two more:
1. Clippings - I use them in my sermon prep and would be very helpful - if I'm limited to notes, I can cross over, but they don't naturally hold the reference material (I think)
2. Don' t limit the iphone because some think you can't take notes on it, or do major work on it. I do and would love to have as many possibilities open to it as "possible"
Thanks for a great app!
PS - like the cure for cancer one too, Ivan! [;)]
Exegetical Gude would make me happy!
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copy and paste as well as highlight & prayer lists.
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would really love to see a reverse interlinear for the iPad.
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Could someone--anyone at Logos PLEASE give us a projected date for the new release? Is this 5 years out? 5 months? 5 weeks? 5 days? 5 minutes? [8-|]
Well, hopefully the next Logos iOS update will include the following:
All your purchased desktop modules downloadable and available on the device.
Side by Side display of text and or resource with sync scrolling.
Notes capability that can be sync'd with your desktop app.
and many more helpful features.
Well, hopefully the next Logos iOS update will include the following:
All your purchased desktop modules downloadable and available on the device.
Side by Side display of text and or resource with sync scrolling.
Notes capability that can be sync'd with your desktop app.
and many more helpful features.
Thats my dream Logos too, and I know it is doable, it;s just a matter if Logos wants to put in the time and effort to allow us to sync from our computers. Accordance will have this feature, even with yesterdays release without it, i see included is the ability to have Bible Knowledge Commentary, the NIV and New Jerusalem Bible. All items that Logos has not been able to offer owners of these resources. If we get enough people asking for it maybe desktop app sync can become a reality for Logos iOS but somehow I doubt it, since they have told us time and again it can't be done.
-Dan
Like you I quit listening to the promises and the excuses and moved on.
I suppose some people will never be happy. Can't we get to the point where we are thankful that we now have unprecedented access to studying God's Word instead of constantly focusing on what we lack? Having been communicating with some of our supported missionaries and seeing the joy that comes to tribal people when they merely have a print New Testament in their own language, I can't believe how ungrateful we have become.
Here's looking to a year that's filled with not only the mass accumulation of resources, but increased devotion to knowing our great Savior! [Y]
Thats my dream Logos too, and I know it is doable, it;s just a matter if Logos wants to put in the time and effort to allow us to sync from our computers. Accordance will have this feature, even with yesterdays release without it, i see included is the ability to have Bible Knowledge Commentary, the NIV and New Jerusalem Bible. All items that Logos has not been able to offer owners of these resources. If we get enough people asking for it maybe desktop app sync can become a reality for Logos iOS but somehow I doubt it, since they have told us time and again it can't be done.
-Dan
The Accordance ipad app is impressive indeed.
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The Accordance ipad app is impressive indeed.
How so. I was not impressed. But maybe I missed something. This might help the Logos developers to know what was so great about it. To me it looked very limited and extremely simplistic. Don't not offer nearly what Logos and the other offer.
Dr. Kevin Purcell, Director of Missions
Brushy Mountain Baptist Association
I would like to see to home page of the desktop version available for the iPad.
In addition to the features you listed, I'd like to see (in no particular order)
1. footnotes available offline (not sure whether this is possible/how easy it would be)
2. Some sort of equivalent to the cited by tool
3. Ability to search within offline books (nothing fancy, just a "find" feature within the currently opened book would be nice)
EDIT 4. Oooh, and Biblical People/Places/Things would be AWESOME!
@Dave - I know you can't commit to a date or anything (and I don't expect you to), but any chance of a broad hint of how far out this major update is? Are we talking weeks? Months? Half a year? Tomorrow? [:P] (Kidding on that last one [;)] )
And of course, two windows open at once allowing active linked books.
prayer list sync!
Yes, agreed, Prayer List to be sync to iPhone, that will be great.
Actually these would be solved by what I envision as offline installation.
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Brushy Mountain Baptist Association
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Prayer list sync
Highlighting that carries over to Logos.
Fred Greco
Senior Pastor, Christ Church PCA, Katy, TX
Windows 10 64-bit; Logos 7.1 SR-2 (Reformed Platinum)
In order of importance:
1. Highlighting and Notes (a must); clippings (maybe...)
2. Dual resource view although this may only be practical for the ipad. What's an iphone anyway? :-)
3. Better original language "stuff." I have never enjoyed using original language resources on the Logos ipad app. I would love to see something that could parse (quickly) on the fly when I am listening to a sermon or doing a quick study of the Greek/Hebrew. It needs to be more "snappy" and have the ability to quickly pull up a lexical entry.
4. New UI layout (maybe), or something more Ipad specific. With the Ipad you've got a lot more space for an elegant UI. I am okay with the one we've got, but I could imagine something better.
5. *I am not sure if this is even on their radar, but sentence diagramming on the ipad would, IMHO, be an awesome experience. It would really give you the feeling of "interaction" you miss when you are diagramming with a mouse.
6. How about an integration of book deals, blog articles, and the like. I could see Logos doing a great job with this.
7. A "preaching" portion for the app which would allow linking of information, texts, illustrations, maybe even powerpoint integration (you could even use a Logos button to advance slides running off a computer connected to a wireless network).