Version 2.0

Kevin A. Purcell
Kevin A. Purcell Member Posts: 3,405 ✭✭✭
edited November 21 in English Forum

Not saying this is what is going to be called, but this statment by Dave Dunkins seems to me to say that a major update is coming.

The seemingly plateaued state of the app is because we were hitting the limits of what we could do with small changes and are now working on big changes, specifically integrating the full Logos display engine. Big changes take longer. Notes and highlighting are coming, just not as soon as we would all like. Thanks for your patience.

So, if version 2 is coming (or something like it; a major update), here is what I am hoping will be added and possible with the new update.

  1. copy/paste
  2. highlighting/markup
  3. note taking and syncing with desktop
  4. fully offline installation - only needs to be online to sync or download books
That is also in order of importance for me. What do you want?

Dr. Kevin Purcell, Director of Missions
Brushy Mountain Baptist Association

www.kevinpurcell.org

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  • Ron
    Ron Member Posts: 1,229

    In addition to the features you listed, I'd like to see (in no particular order)

    1. footnotes available offline (not sure whether this is possible/how easy it would be)

    2. Some sort of equivalent to the cited by tool

    3. Ability to search within offline books (nothing fancy, just a "find" feature within the currently opened book would be nice)

    EDIT 4. Oooh, and Biblical People/Places/Things would be AWESOME!

    @Dave - I know you can't commit to a date or anything (and I don't expect you to), but any chance of a broad hint of how far out this major update is? Are we talking weeks? Months? Half a year? Tomorrow? [:P] (Kidding on that last one [;)] )

  • lostlogik
    lostlogik Member Posts: 187

    And of course, two windows open at once allowing active linked books.

  • Kevin A. Purcell
    Kevin A. Purcell Member Posts: 3,405 ✭✭✭

    1. footnotes available offline (not sure whether this is possible/how easy it would be)

    3. Ability to search within offline books (nothing fancy, just a "find" feature within the currently opened book would be nice)

    Actually these would be solved by what I envision as offline installation.

    Dr. Kevin Purcell, Director of Missions
    Brushy Mountain Baptist Association

    www.kevinpurcell.org

  • Fred Greco
    Fred Greco Member Posts: 494 ✭✭

    Prayer list sync

    Highlighting that carries over to Logos.

    Fred Greco
    Senior Pastor, Christ Church PCA, Katy, TX
    Windows 10 64-bit; Logos 7.1 SR-2 (Reformed Platinum)

  • Jonathan
    Jonathan Member Posts: 671

    In order of importance:

    1. Highlighting and Notes (a must); clippings (maybe...)

    2. Dual resource view although this may only be practical for the ipad. What's an iphone anyway? :-)

    3. Better original language "stuff." I have never enjoyed using original language resources on the Logos ipad app. I would love to see something that could parse (quickly) on the fly when I am listening to a sermon or doing a quick study of the Greek/Hebrew. It needs to be more "snappy" and have the ability to quickly pull up a lexical entry.

    4. New UI layout (maybe), or something more Ipad specific. With the Ipad you've got a lot more space for an elegant UI. I am okay with the one we've got, but I could imagine something better.

    5. *I am not sure if this is even on their radar, but sentence diagramming on the ipad would, IMHO, be an awesome experience. It would really give you the feeling of "interaction" you miss when you are diagramming with a mouse.

    6. How about an integration of book deals, blog articles, and the like. I could see Logos doing a great job with this.

    7. A "preaching" portion for the app which would allow linking of information, texts, illustrations, maybe even powerpoint integration (you could even use a Logos button to advance slides running off a computer connected to a wireless network).

  • Bob Turner
    Bob Turner Member Posts: 223

    great suggestions. 

    i would especially love to see:


    • prayer list integration
    • notes access & able to add/edit
    • highlighting

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  • Jeremy
    Jeremy Member Posts: 686 ✭✭

    1. The ability to perform a passage search through a collection.

    2. The ability to perform word studies and exegetical studies and bring up all the resources that are linked.

    3. THE NA27!

  • Ron
    Ron Member Posts: 1,229

    prayer list integration

    Absolutely! Forgot that one.

  • Brent Daniel
    Brent Daniel Member Posts: 38 ✭✭

    My prioritized list of features is as follows:

    1.  Fully offline installation

    2.  Fully offline installation

    3.  ...

    The reason for my beating on the "fully offline installation" is that I expect it would include many of the features other users are requesting including:

    a.  Full support for offline support  footnotes and references

    b.  Viewing highlighting done in Logos 4 ... and likely some highlighting capability (which may have to be simplified due to the constraints of the iTouch form factor.

    c.   Copy and paste - again potentially constrained due to the form factor

    d.   Notes ???  I am personally not looking forward to typing notes on a virtual keyboard.  Now, if there was a Logos app. for a smartphone that had a decent keyboard - say maybe for the new BB Torch, then note taking may be manageable.


    Not saying this is what is going to be called, but this statment by Dave Dunkins seems to me to say that a major update is coming.

    The seemingly plateaued state of the app is because we were hitting the limits of what we could do with small changes and are now working on big changes, specifically integrating the full Logos display engine. Big changes take longer. Notes and highlighting are coming, just not as soon as we would all like. Thanks for your patience.

    So, if version 2 is coming (or something like it; a major update), here is what I am hoping will be added and possible with the new update.

     

    1. copy/paste
    2. highlighting/markup
    3. note taking and syncing with desktop
    4. fully offline installation - only needs to be online to sync or download books

    That is also in order of importance for me. What do you want?

     

     

  • UncleBob
    UncleBob Member Posts: 29 ✭✭

    Actually, the iPad is a great option for notetaking on the go (not so much for iPhone though).

    You can purchase (from Apple) a real keyboard for the iPad that also props up the iPad (in portrait orientation) right in front of you. It is full size and is a dream to type on.

    You can also download an iPad app -- Tap Typing is the name I believe -- which will give you touch typing lessons (and pointers along the way) using your virtual iPad keyboard. It will improve both your typing speed and also accuracy. I enjoy virtual typing (and am much better at it) having worked thru many of the typing lessons.

    Personally, I can't WAIT for the iPad/iPhone app to be updated. . .

    bob

    Catholic Daily Bible Reading Plan | Daily Catholic Lectionary Meditations

  • Tom Geswein
    Tom Geswein Member Posts: 235 ✭✭

    I would like to have a way of looking through my library a little easier.  Something similar to the alphabet on the right side of the screen, the way the ipod handles music.  It would also be nice to be able to filter your library to only show downloaded resources or those not downloaded (to make downloading easier.)

    "It seems our problems solve themselves when we look beyond us to those truly in hell."  -  Beyond Our Suffering - AILD

  • Linden
    Linden Member Posts: 182

    Below are my prioritized feature requests:

     

    1. Prayer list sync.

    2. Copy/paste

    3. Multiple open windows (at least two)

    4. Interlinear Bible View

     

    I see that iPad prayer list sync is very popular on this thread.  Can everyone that wants this feature vote for it here:

     

    http://logos.uservoice.com/forums/42823-logos-bible-software-4/suggestions/655839-add-prayer-list-on-iphone-ipad-ipod

     

     

    Linden

  • Jon
    Jon Member Posts: 28

    I would love to see all of these updates mention previous but I would also like to see

    1. folders in favorites and/or

    2. Verse lists.

    I just want to have lists of verses that are encouraging, for hospital visits, and theological issues i deal with. I like during visits to read a verse or two and it takes a bit longer to try to remember it, then find it, and then read it. It would also be nice to have a start toggle which should be easy enough because it would help just to mark a couple for easy finding when i go to head into a hospital room. I think with either of these additions i would be able to use it the way i want.

  • Kenneth Neighoff
    Kenneth Neighoff Member Posts: 2,620 ✭✭✭

    You can purchase (from Apple) a real keyboard for the iPad that also props up the iPad (in portrait orientation) right in front of you. It is full size and is a dream to type on.

     

    I had an old bluetooth keyboard from my Palm days. It is a full sized keyboard and it works with the IPad. This saved me some money.

  • 1. Highlighting.

    2. Note-taking.

    3. Copy/paste.

    4. Take over mortgage payments.

  • Bob
    Bob Member Posts: 171

    The only feature that I really miss is the ability to store a favorite while off the net.  It makes reading a lot more difficult if the app cannot remember a place. Notes would be nice, but ONLY if they are accessible (for read and write) when the unit is off the net.  If they are online use only - then they would be worthless to me.

    Bob - 17" MBP quad 2.3GHz 4GB  and iMAC

  • Dr. Ivan Ramirez
    Dr. Ivan Ramirez Member Posts: 9 ✭✭

    you guys are doing a great job on the app so far. I would love to see the following

    1. Exegetical guide

    2. dictionary (like kindle)

    3. multiple windows 

    4. drastically improved home screen

    5. everything all the others said 

    6. cure for cancer

  • Robert Mullen
    Robert Mullen Member Posts: 301 ✭✭

    1. Exegetical guide

    2. Multiple windows / Layouts

    3. Notes

    4. Full offline mode

    5. This year

    6. This year

     

    Seriously. The other bible readers out there are doing these things right now and they do them with small teams. I don't mean to be ungracious but I have come to expect a lot from Logos.

  • rog
    rog Member Posts: 158

    I like what is above, two more:

    1. Clippings - I use them in my sermon prep and would be very helpful - if I'm limited to notes, I can cross over, but they don't naturally hold the reference material (I think)

    2. Don' t limit the iphone because some think you can't take notes on it, or do major work on it. I do and would love to have as many possibilities open to it as "possible" 

    Thanks for a great app!

    PS - like the cure for cancer one too, Ivan! [;)]

  • James Lum Siak Foong
    James Lum Siak Foong Member Posts: 5 ✭✭

    Yes, agreed, Prayer List to be sync to iPhone, that will be great.

  • Dan Francis
    Dan Francis Member Posts: 5,335 ✭✭✭

    I just wish they would let us know when they think they will be getting it out. I know it could be a long time, but would be nice to know that in a month or two we might have an update to get. I just hope with all the people complaining about it being near useless when offline, that they fix it so we can actually load our books rather than cloud reading. I know the ability to load personal books and all content is the thing i look forward to in a different companies forth coming app (it's in beta but i am not one of the lucky beta testers).

     

    -Dan

  • Kevin A. Purcell
    Kevin A. Purcell Member Posts: 3,405 ✭✭✭

    I know the ability to load personal books and all content is the thing i look forward to in a different companies forth coming app (it's in beta but i am not one of the lucky beta testers).

    Are you talking about offline reading? That is in the Logos app now. I'm guessing you know this and that wasn't what you were talking about, but in case it is, just go into your Library and tap the little blue arrow and it will show you a page about the book and there is a switch to turn offline reading on/off.

    Dr. Kevin Purcell, Director of Missions
    Brushy Mountain Baptist Association

    www.kevinpurcell.org

  • Bob Turner
    Bob Turner Member Posts: 223

    copy and paste as well as highlight  & prayer lists.

    River of Life Church: http://LifeOverflowing.org

    Visit my blog: http://LifeOverflowing.org/pastor

     

  • Bob Turner
    Bob Turner Member Posts: 223

    would really love to see a reverse interlinear for the iPad.

    River of Life Church: http://LifeOverflowing.org

    Visit my blog: http://LifeOverflowing.org/pastor

     

  • Jeremy
    Jeremy Member Posts: 686 ✭✭

    The ability to see all of the alphabetized table of contents of dictionaries. Right now you can only scroll down to part of them which makes finding an entry that does not come up very very difficult.

  • Randall Hartman
    Randall Hartman Member Posts: 502 ✭✭

    Could someone--anyone at Logos PLEASE give us a projected date for the new release?  Is this 5 years out? 5 months? 5 weeks? 5 days? 5 minutes? [8-|]

  • Mark Barnes
    Mark Barnes Member Posts: 15,432 ✭✭✭

    A week ago we were told a beta was 'close'. iPhone betas are always closed (Apple's decision, not Logos'), so a beta won't get published here, but I guess that might mean that of your suggestions, 5 weeks until release might be the closest (though perhaps a little longer maybe).

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  • Dave Dunkin (Logos)
    Dave Dunkin (Logos) Member, Logos Employee Posts: 1,043

    Less than 5 years, more than 5 days. We are in beta now for the next release, which will be 1.5.