Heresy for sale?
I’m highly disappointed today to learn that logos is selling Bart Ehrman’s book “How Jesus Became God”.
I understand that none of us will agree on 100% of anything, but even a Baptist and Catholic both agree on the divinity of Christ. Erhman’s book is heresy and it doesn’t appear to be sold for the purpose of learning what modern heresy looks like. It appears to be recommended reading.
Logos, you can do better than this.
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Well, of course, it's heresy. So are a whole bunch of books in Logos.
Coincidentally, I've been reading this very volume today, after finishing up on Smith's Monotheism book (another heresy volume by the way; so many; so little time). Unfortunately, it's on my Kindle Scribe, so I'm having to move back and forth, to see exactly the greek, along with the variants in discussion. But good to trace exactly what Ehrman's argument was/is.
Actually, there's two Ehrman's on prepub. About time.
BTW: Ehrman discusses a variant that shows up in Whiston's Primitive New Testament … which Logos also carries. It's one of the few translations that works of the Beza and Claramontanus manuscripts (so called 'Western'). And Whiston was the same as the Josephus translator.
"If myth is ideology in narrative form, then scholarship is myth with footnotes." B. Lincolm 1999.
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Please read for the official postion.
I am one who keeps pressing for more Bart Ehrman in Logos. recently I was most annoyed that I still had to reach for an actual book for his The Other Gospels. Furthermore, I find it very useful to be aware of the ideas floating around in academia because sooner or later someone is going to ask me about them.
Orthodox Bishop Alfeyev: "To be a theologian means to have experience of a personal encounter with God through prayer and worship."; Orthodox proverb: "We know where the Church is, we do not know where it is not."
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Yesterday I was instructed by a "Christian" on how evolution works.
Having bad books available isn't good but it's a lot better than censorship.
If we don't like a resource we ignore it. If an heretic uses the resource what is it to us?
Let's protect the freedom of speech always."Where are we going to scare them off to, hell number two?"
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I understand some people's disappointment in Logos making Ehrman books available. I, however, am thankful to have these resources so that I can use the power of Logos to search the texts and be able to better counter his arguments. In addition, if I can cite him properly, I am far less likely of committing straw man fallacies. I already own most of his books in print for these reasons. We need to use discernment whenever we read…even books that are from Christian authors. I'm sure we all have areas of Christian writing that we disagree with and, for some, think is borderline heretical. The print books I have in my home for research are not all good books that I would want someone lacking discernment to access. I have a red rubber stamp with the words, "May contain heretical garbage, For research purposes only" and I stamp a books front cover as needed. If something should ever happen to me, my kids would know what books to keep and which ones to burn. Perhaps Logos can implement a red flag of sorts that we can put on books that we feel don't align with our Christian convictions. This would be the same concept as my rubber stamp. When my Logos library is willed to my son, I don't need to worry about him assuming all the texts are good to read. These red flags could be used for all kinds of texts, not just Ehrman.
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Well, Kris, you can always tag your heretical books. I'm not sure Logos could do that … as an example, quite a few of the early Christian leaders turned out to be heretical to the modern church.
Since most books don't fit my beliefs, I'd have to tag almost all of them. Instead, I add a level of 'well-thought-out', plus short blurb to each that I go thru.
"If myth is ideology in narrative form, then scholarship is myth with footnotes." B. Lincolm 1999.
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When you go to the 'Info' page for a book you can give it a short name. You could put a star * or something on books that you want to remind yourself might have disagreeable content. The star wouldn't show up in the long name though, you could add it to that too.
I just realized the AI will still use books we don't like when generating its answers. Maybe it would be good to have a checkbox in the book info to 'exclude from AI'. Telling the AI we don't want it to use this book when finding answers for us.
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I can't resist teasing a bit - I'm more generous. I would label much of my library schismatic and a much smaller slice heretical.🤐 I actually love your tagging based on the thought patterns.
Orthodox Bishop Alfeyev: "To be a theologian means to have experience of a personal encounter with God through prayer and worship."; Orthodox proverb: "We know where the Church is, we do not know where it is not."
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