Christmas 2010 Collection
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Jonathan West said:
fictitious "retail price",
How is the retail price of digital books arrived at? All retail prices are fictional! They sometimes call it the suggested retail price.
"For the kingdom of God does not consist in words but in power"
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Thanks John, my complication factor comes in play sometimes from the congregation factor
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Concerning the 50% off pricing, I have checked these prices and seen they are real savings! Try to find these sale prices some where else on these books, I have never seen such deals!
I am almost starting to think some of us will not be happy until they are giving us free books!
Of course if it comes down to it, I want on that train, but I am afrarid that train won't go very far.
Really folks have you compared these sale prices to other software book prices? Some places might have a few low ball sets on sale, but no one that I know of has package sales including over 2000 books at a dollar a piece. Or make your own package deal at 50% off'. What is amazing is the deals they must of made with publishers in order to come up with these packages!
You know come to think of it how many companies have 2000 books at all.
And Jonathan West, if this would be an unacceptable practice in the UK, it might explain why no UK company sells books at these prices!!! If you know of one let me know!
But remember they are a US company and the buyer should be aware of the prices they are paying for the books. We need to ask ourselves can we buy these books some where else for lower prices in better programs, if we can then we should do it.
This 50% off pricing is a common pricing pattern in the US in many different areas and it is up to us to see if it is 50% off their sale price or 50% off the normal retail price. In our country people are expected to decide for ourselves. This is an honest way of putting things on sale, and it has allowed more books to be on the market at lower prices than I have ever seen. Of course I would love to see the prices even lower, but I can hardly believe these prices!!!
In Christ,
Jim VanSchoonhoven
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Timothy Ha said:
You still have to double check, though. I own "Eerdmans Dictionary of the Bible" (perhaps, through Platinum or some other collection), but the website keeps telling me that I do not own it at http://www.logos.com/products/search?Specials=Featured&unlocked=no&q=dictionary and in the resource's page.
I've done a check though library.logos.com, and it's there in my unlocked resources.
I have been confused by two titles that are very similar. I have "Eerdmans Bible Dictionary" but not "Eerdmans Dictionary of the Bible."
They are both on the 50% sale.
Can anyone tell me the difference between these two? Here is a page with both of them. They are the first two entries.
Thanks!
Jerry
Macbook Air (2024), Apple M2, 16gb Ram, Mac Sequoia, 1TB storage
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Jerry Bush said:
Can anyone tell me the difference between these two? Here is a page with both of them. They are the first two entries.
They are different works. The product pages will tell you the details.
Eerdmans Bible Dictionary is a 1987 revision of a Dutch work from 1975.
Eerdmans Dictionary of the Bible was a new work published in 2000.
They both have about the same level of detail and similar number of entries.
MacBook Pro (2019), ThinkPad E540
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Jerry Bush said:
Can anyone tell me the difference between these two?
Eerdman's Dictionary of the Bible is newer (2000 vs 1987) and was created fresh by Eerdmans. Eerdmans Bible Dictionary is basically a translation of a 1975 work from the Netherlands. See below:
Here is the article on Christmas from each. First the Eerdmans Dictionary of the Bible:
CHRISTMAS
From OE Cristes Mæsse. Not knowing the date of Christ’s birth, the early Church sought one by combining calendrical speculations with the exegesis of biblical numbers. Several dates were suggested, including MAR. 25, Apr. 2, May 20, Nov. 8, Dec. 25, and Jan. 6. The earliest evidence, the Depositio martyrum, has the Feast of the Nativity being celebrated on Dec. 25 by the year 336 in Rome. Within a century this date was almost universally accepted.
Dec. 25 marked, in the Julian calendar, the winter solstice (the beginning of the victory of light over darkness after the year’s longest night) and, after 274, the feast of the birthday of Sol Invictus (the “invincible sun”), patron deity of the emperor. The association between Jesus and the sun occurred early and naturally; Jesus rose on Sunday (the “Lord’s Day”). As early as Clement of Alexandria (d. 216) Jesus was being identified with the “Sun of Righteousness” (Vulg. Sol Iustitiae) of Mal. 4:2 (MT 3:20) (Exhort. 11). A related early tradition identified Mar. 25, the “Sunday” of creation week, as the date of Christ’s conception (nine months before Dec. 25!). It was only natural that after Constantine had abandoned the patronage of Sol Invictus in 324, Sol Iustitiae, the light of the world, should supersede him.
Bibliography. O. Cullmann, “The Origin of Christmas,” The Early Church (Philadelphia, 1956), 17–36; A. T. Kraabel, “The Roots of Christmas,” Dialog 21 (1982): 274–80; K. Lake, “Christmas,” ERE 3 (New York, 1958): 601–8.
RONALD V. HUGGINS
Freedman, D. N., Myers, A. C., & Beck, A. B. (2000). Eerdmans dictionary of the Bible (240). Grand Rapids, Mich.: W.B. Eerdmans.Now Eerdman's Bible Dictionary:
CHRISTMAS (from Old English Cristes maesse “Christ’s mass”).† Observance commemorating the birth of Jesus. In the Western church, the Feast of the Nativity of Our Lord was first celebrated on December 25 ca. A.D. 336, the date apparently chosen to counter the Roman feast Natalis Solis Invicti (“birth of the unconquered sun”), the birthday of Emperor Aurelius. In Alexandria and the Eastern churches the event was originally celebrated on January 6 in connection with the Feast of the Epiphany honoring Jesus’ baptism; some branches of the Eastern church still hold to this date. The name, which does not occur in the New Testament, derives from the three masses of the Western rite celebrating the threefold birth of Christ in the Father’s bosom, Mary’s womb, and the believer’s soul.
Myers, A. C. (1987). The Eerdmans Bible dictionary (210–211). Grand Rapids, Mich.: Eerdmans.The former is typical: somewhat longer articles, signed, and with bibliographic entries. The former has more articles as well. If I had to get just one, I'd get Eerdmans Dictionary of the Bible (the more recent one).
Pastor, North Park Baptist Church
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Thanks guys! I think I will get the one I don't have based on your recommendations.
I think they should re-title one of them though. [:P]
Jerry
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Jim VanSchoonhoven said:
I am almost starting to think some of us will not be happy until they are giving us free books!
I ordered 2 free books from their list!!
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Tim Hogan said:
Thanks John, my complication factor comes in play sometimes from the congregation factor
I am a CPA.. so I guess I just have the gift of math[:D]
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With these long lists on the collection sites I thought I might mention that Ctrl + F brings up a search box for just that page. This might help if you are curious if a particular book is in the list. Merry Christmas!
"For the kingdom of God does not consist in words but in power"
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Anyone have any opinions on picking one of these two?
Interpreting the NT (Black, Dockery) http://www.logos.com/product/3346/interpreting-the-new-testament
Handbook to Exegesis of the NT (Porter) http://www.logos.com/product/4230/handbook-to-exegesis-of-the-new-testament
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Thank you Logos for these special offers. Now I have to narrow original selection down to make the wife happy. The list I have is a great bargain but still may need to be shortened.
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Has anybody tried using the payment plan? Is it an option at checkout?
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Mike Tourangeau said:
Has anybody tried using the payment plan? Is it an option at checkout?
Dan Pritchett answered that one here: http://community.logos.com/forums/p/27287/201478.aspx#201478
Dan Pritchett said:If you want a payment plan, please wait until the 17th and order over the web with the payment plan.
Logos 7 Collectors Edition
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Jason Kuo said:
Anyone have any opinions on picking one of these two?
Interpreting the NT (Black, Dockery) http://www.logos.com/product/3346/interpreting-the-new-testament
Handbook to Exegesis of the NT (Porter) http://www.logos.com/product/4230/handbook-to-exegesis-of-the-new-testament
I'm familiar with the second, which is a fairly scholarly collection of essays. The first I'm not familiar with, but judging by the commendations that are listed, it is an excellent resource - I might just buy it myself!
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Mike Tourangeau said:
Has anybody tried using the payment plan? Is it an option at checkout?
Yes: after selecting the books and clicking Proceed, I received a pop-up asking if I wanted to use 1 payment or 12.
(I chose one, but I was certainly given the option.)
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I am not complaining about this offer! I do see many good things here and will be placing an order once I've trauled through the titles a few times and decided what I need.
It is just that when I see a statement like "we are discounting by 50%" I interpret that to mean 50% off the normal sale price! This is what you might call the grammatico-historical interpretation of the text ...[;)]
For complete transparency, I'd like to see Logos publish against all titles the "normal sale price" (if they like in addition to the "retail price"). I recall this was discussed before, but this becomes particularly relevant for Pre-pub titles - where sometimes the pre-pub is discounted from the price it will become and sometimes it is not. This information just helps people to decided if/when to buy.
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Paul Newsome said:
with the sale I was able to complete my IVP New Testament Commentary (bought individually), picked up Dictionary of Deities and Demons in the Bible at a huge discount, and then jumped on some great Southern Baptist resources previously locked away in collections or out of my price range. Thanks Logos!
Which Southern Baptist resources caught your eye?
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