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Bradley Grainger said:Richard DeRuiter said:
2. Will the new 2011 NIV get a Reverse Interlinear, and if so, how soon?
http://www.logos.com/comparison lists NIV Reverse Interlinear with the footnote that the license is included but we don't yet have any files. The reverse interlinear will be for the same version of the Bible that's included in the collection, i.e., the 2011 NIV. I don't know how soon it will be available.
I'm glad that the 2011 version will get the RI.
I also noticed that you didn't answer my first question about the 1984 NIV OT RI. Since it's been a work in progress, I trust it will be finished. But your lack of assurance isn't very assuring.
Help links: WIKI; Logos 6 FAQ. (Phil. 2:14, NIV)
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I am happy about the NIV 2011 however the cutting of all Baker titles from the Platinum is actually crippling the package. Those titles had been my main reason to upgrade from the Gold package. I am glad for the Logos policy to leave those titles with the current users but I am really sorry for the new customers. I think Platinum should be filled up with some replacement titles like some of you mentioned already: ISBE, Tyndale and other, but it still would not be the same value IMHO. I see it as a major defeat, especially for the Platinum Package that was in fact the most reasonable value for pastors and teachers.
Bohuslav
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Richard DeRuiter said:
I also noticed that you didn't answer my first question about the 1984 NIV OT RI. Since it's been a work in progress, I trust it will be finished. But your lack of assurance isn't very assuring.
ditto [:'(]
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Bohuslav Wojnar said:
I think Platinum should be filled up with some replacement titles like some of you mentioned already: ISBE, Tyndale and other, but it still would not be the same value IMHO. I see it as a major defeat, especially for the Platinum Package that was in fact the most reasonable value for pastors and teachers.
I agree with the idea that Logos should fill up Platinum with some replacement titles and have us "Old Platinum" users keep our content and just have us pay an upgrade fee to have access to the new "replacement content" as it's been stated before. As I said before so say I now again: "I love the fact we got to keep our baker content...pheww!!!"
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Wow, this is REALLY disappointing! [:'(]
I was planning on upgrading from Silver to Platinum sometime this year and the BECNT was a MAJOR reason I wanted it. This removes $225 worth of top-notch content from a $600+ upgrade. Pillar and BDAG are the only other things in Platinum that are really interesting to me.
Makes me wish I picked up the Pillar volumes that are in Plat during the 1/2 off 2010 Christmas sale, then I would consider bypassing Platinum until Logos 5 or whenever they upgrade the packages next.
Edit: After rereading through the OP and rest of this thread, and looking at the Baker items removed from the Plat package, I find it to be a little disingenuous of Logos to call this a "minor maintenance update." I guess how they describe the change doesn't really matter since no one can go back and buy the older version of the package, but I just wish they were a little more up front about it.
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Richard DeRuiter said:
I also noticed that you didn't answer my first question about the 1984 NIV OT RI. Since it's been a work in progress, I trust it will be finished. But your lack of assurance isn't very assuring.
I will be pleasantly surprised it the NIV license allows the completion. Here is hoping against hope!
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NET Bible notes for 1 Samuel 20:30: "...A better English approximation of the sentiments expressed here by the Hebrew phrase would be “You stupid son of a bitch!” However, sensitivity to the various public formats in which the Bible is read aloud has led to a less startling English rendering which focuses on the semantic value of Saul’s utterance (i.e., the behavior of his own son Jonathan, which he viewed as both a personal and a political betrayal [= “traitor”])."
Well, I guess is updated language compared to the King James old profanity words. Anyway, as the enigmatic silent sam woud say: "[^o)]........[^o)]"
Biblical Studies Press. (2006; 2006). The NET Bible First Edition Notes (1 Sa 20:30). Biblical Studies Press.
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Richard DeRuiter said:
I also noticed that you didn't answer my first question about the 1984 NIV OT RI. Since it's been a work in progress, I trust it will be finished. But your lack of assurance isn't very assuring.
I don't have any information about that, sorry.
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Douglas Alvarenga said:
NET Bible notes for 1 Samuel 20:30: "...A better English approximation of the sentiments expressed here by the Hebrew phrase would be “You stupid son of a ***!” However, sensitivity to the various public formats in which the Bible is read aloud has led to a less startling English rendering which focuses on the semantic value of Saul’s utterance (i.e., the behavior of his own son Jonathan, which he viewed as both a personal and a political betrayal [= “traitor”])."
Well, I guess is updated language compared to the King James old profanity words. Anyway, as the enigmatic silent sam woud say: "
........"Biblical Studies Press. (2006; 2006). The NET Bible First Edition Notes (1 Sa 20:30). Biblical Studies Press.
Did you censor yourself, or did the forum software censor that quote?
The Message renders it, "You son of a slut!" (let's see if that gets censored - [:)]) EDIT: Yup, that got censored. It was supposed to be S-L-U-T.
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Rosie,
The forum censored that quote...as you may have already found out [:P]
Let's see if it censors the King James Version of 1 Samuel 25:22, "... pisseth against the wall." And Revelation 19:2, "...hath judged the great whore." Deuteronomy 23:2, "A bastard shall not enter the congregation..." Alright, that's enough...we wouldn't want to get involved in a discussion of the KJV unique terms like "unicorn" so on and so forth (Job 39:9)...hehehe.
Edit too: only "illegitimate son" got censored.
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Bradley Grainger said:Richard DeRuiter said:
I also noticed that you didn't answer my first question about the 1984 NIV OT RI. Since it's been a work in progress, I trust it will be finished. But your lack of assurance isn't very assuring.
I don't have any information about that, sorry.
Understood. But rather than letting the speculation run rampant, can you please find the answer, or point someone to this thread who can give us an answer?
Thanks
Help links: WIKI; Logos 6 FAQ. (Phil. 2:14, NIV)
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Richard DeRuiter said:
Understood. But rather than letting the speculation run rampant, can you please find the answer, or point someone to this thread who can give us an answer?
I'm looking into this and will let you know when I have a definitive answer.
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Andrew Stewart said:
Wow, this is REALLY disappointing!
Agree! Fortunately I bought in time, but I feel for you who didn't. Not only does the full Platinum now cost about $420 more than I payed, now it's also got ... well, certainly well above $600 less of resources in it. That's some change for the worse!
Andrew Stewart said:After rereading through the OP and rest of this thread, and looking at the Baker items removed from the Plat package, I find it to be a little disingenuous of Logos to call this a "minor maintenance update." I guess how they describe the change doesn't really matter since no one can go back and buy the older version of the package, but I just wish they were a little more up front about it.
Agree on that too!
Mac Pro (late 2013) OS 12.6.2
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Are the new resources available in Logos 3?
I didn't see the usual license upgrade file nor the new files to download after I did the crossgrade.
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Douglas Alvarenga said:
Anyway, as the enigmatic silent sam woud say: "
........"[^o)] HHHMMMmmm~~~ [^o)]
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jcc said:
Are the new resources available in Logos 3?
I didn't see the usual license upgrade file nor the new files to download after I did the crossgrade.
That is another good question. If the answer be "Nope" I find myself on the better side of the fence this time. I've still got the Baker titles and I would much rather keep my "1984 NIV only" library holdings than have it be a "2011 NIV only" library.
(This is not to be mistaken as a promotion of NIV over other versions. It is only a preference of the 1984 NIV over the later versions of NIV)
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Hey Phil:
Pardon my ignorance but is there any indication the KF upgrade is successfully completed from the Help > About page? Mine shows:
Logos Bible Software 4.0b SR-2 (4.10.4.8574)
My reason for asking is that I submitted for the free crossgrade > downloaded the .dmg image > launched it (with Logos shut down) and, after running, Logos4 simply restarted. So, I've no indication that Logos4 was updated to the KF crossgrade.
Thanks in advance for your response.
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You go through the upgrade process just as if you were going to buy a book or upgrade to a higher base package. It will then show as an upgrade on your account page with all your other purchases, except the cost is zero.
"For the kingdom of God does not consist in words but in power"
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Kinda like changing a 12 oz. drink to an 11.5 oz. can and charging the same price?
Optimistically Egalitarian (Galatians 3:28)
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Thanks, Jerry. I have done that and downloaded the .dmg file and installed/launched. But, how do I know my Scholars LE has beed updated to the KF package?
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If you didn't have the Net Bible Notes as a separate resource, you should have it now. I don't know if the Logos version number changed or not.
"For the kingdom of God does not consist in words but in power"
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Ah...thanks!
I now have the NET Bible Notes First Edition. I presume that is what you mean?
[If it's not already apparent, I'm rather new to Logos.]
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jcc said:
Are the new resources available in Logos 3?
Two of the three mentioned can be downloaded from the Logos ftp site: ftp://ftp.logos.com/lbxbooks/
Look for LLXXIVAR.lbxlls and GS_NETNOTES.lbxlls
The Lectionary is not in Logos 3 format.
I imagine the new NIV will be made available in Logos 3 format.
You can download the two available files directly to your Libronix Resources folder. You may need to synch your licenses to be able to see them.
Pastor, North Park Baptist Church
Bridgeport, CT USA
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Mark A. Smith said:
I guess (long term) membership does have its privileges.
Definitely Mark. I only wish that I had purchased this software years ago as opposed to days ago. Oh well, at least I have the liberty to read God's word and now have the proper tools to "rightly devide the word of truth".[:D]
God bless,
Rich
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d-i-v-i-d-e...duh. (I guess I'll just use spelling errors to get my post count up.)
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Phil Gons said:Richard DeRuiter said:
I also noticed that you didn't answer my first question about the 1984
NIV OT RI. Since it's been a work in progress, I trust it will be
finished. But your lack of assurance isn't very assuring....
Richard DeRuiter said:Understood. But rather than letting the speculation run rampant, can you please find the answer, or point someone to this thread who can give us an answer?
I'm looking into this and will let you know when I have a definitive answer.
Hi folks.
I wanted to reassure everyone that we will be completing the 1984 NIV OT Reverse Interlinear. We've had some issues to work through but are confident we'll be able to complete and release it. We are, at present, about halfway complete with the alignment; when it is complete, if you have a license, you will get it.
I have no current estimate on when the 2011 NIV reverse interlinears will be complete; there are a number of factors at play. I can safely say, however, that the 2011 OT will be available after the 1984 OT (we will need to use the 1984 as part of the process to create the 2011 alignment).
Thanks for your patience while we work out the issues on this one.
Rick Brannan
Data Wrangler, Faithlife
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Rick Brannan said:
I wanted to reassure everyone that we will be completing the 1984 NIV OT Reverse Interlinear. We've had some issues to work through but are confident we'll be able to complete and release it. We are, at present, about halfway complete with the alignment; when it is complete, if you have a license, you will get it.
I have no current estimate on when the 2011 NIV reverse interlinears will be complete; there are a number of factors at play. I can safely say, however, that the 2011 OT will be available after the 1984 OT (we will need to use the 1984 as part of the process to create the 2011 alignment).
Thanks for your patience while we work out the issues on this one.
Thanks, Rick. Does this mean you'll be skipping over the TNIV entirely in implementing reverse interlinear. That would be a disappointment to some of us, myself included, who plan to stick with TNIV in spite of the new 2011 NIV release.
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Rosie Perera said:
Thanks, Rick. Does this mean you'll be skipping over the TNIV entirely in implementing reverse interlinear. That would be a disappointment to some of us, myself included, who plan to stick with TNIV in spite of the new 2011 NIV release.
Hi Rosie.
Thanks for the question. At present, we have no plans to pursue a TNIV reverse interlinear.
Rick Brannan
Data Wrangler, Faithlife
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Rick Brannan said:Rosie Perera said:
Thanks, Rick. Does this mean you'll be skipping over the TNIV entirely in implementing reverse interlinear. That would be a disappointment to some of us, myself included, who plan to stick with TNIV in spite of the new 2011 NIV release.
Hi Rosie.
Thanks for the question. At present, we have no plans to pursue a TNIV reverse interlinear.
Rosie, may be it is because they will be busy working on the Czech Reverse Interlinear Bible? [:D]
Bohuslav
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Rick Brannan said:
I wanted to reassure everyone that we will be completing the 1984 NIV OT Reverse Interlinear. We've had some issues to work through but are confident we'll be able to complete and release it. We are, at present, about halfway complete with the alignment; when it is complete, if you have a license, you will get it.
Thanks for the update Rick. This is what I expected, but I was getting nervous with the delayed response.
I have been looking forward to this ever since it was first announced, and have enjoyed using the NIV NT Rev Int more than I thought I would. I can't wait until the OT is finished.
Help links: WIKI; Logos 6 FAQ. (Phil. 2:14, NIV)
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