What do you think of web forums instead of newsgroups?

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  • John Kaess
    John Kaess Member Posts: 723 ✭✭✭

    I much prefer the newsgroups.  I find following threads in the web forum impossible.  I've used web forums on other sites, I still prefer newsgroups.

  • David Wilson
    David Wilson Member Posts: 1,238 ✭✭✭

    Well over 60 responses in this thread already - significantly more difficult than in newsgroups to get to those recently posted that I have not looked at yet .........

    Forums are OK for very low volume groups, but not so well suited for this type of question and responses.....

    DaveJ

  • Pam Larson
    Pam Larson Member Posts: 683 ✭✭

    I like reading the newsgroups. But since I switched to a free web-based e-mail account (using wireless to connect to my son's ISP) I haven't been able to figure out how to post to a newsgroup.  I used to connect through AOL and they dropped the ability to read newsgroups years ago.

  • Lionel B Dyck
    Lionel B Dyck Member Posts: 117 ✭✭

    I prefer newsgroups because of the ability to group messages into a thread.

    Having said that I can live with a web forum.

    I would prefer one that didn't show the entire post by default - I prefer to look at subjects and then view those i'm interested in.

  • Dave Hooton
    Dave Hooton Member, MVP Posts: 35,667 ✭✭✭

    See what happens with a zip file.

    3201.Backup_Restore_XP_Vista.zip

    Dave
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  • Wolfgang Schneider
    Wolfgang Schneider Member Posts: 676 ✭✭

    Hello Dave

    See what happens with a zip file.

    3201.Backup_Restore_XP_Vista.zip

    seems like normal behavior was invoked ... a click on the link opened the "open / save file" dialogue to let me save and or open the file locally

    Wolfgang Schneider

    (BibelCenter)

  • Robert
    Robert Member Posts: 196 ✭✭

    Prefer: Newsgroups

    Pros of Forums:

    1. Mobility - I am often on the road using different computers. The forums will allow access from any computer. (This is possible with the newsgroups, but you end up downloaded all messages so it isn't a pracical possibility.)

    2. Replies to email - It's nice that replies to my posts of interest are sent to my email

    Cons of Forums:

    1. Slow - My internet speed is fast, but the international internet connection from Asia slows down some sites and the Logos site always seems to be affected more than others. It takes about 15-30 seconds to load a page to read/write. This will greatly reduce my desire to check the forums.

    2. Hard to view at a glance - It's hard to look at a glance and see what has happened since my last visit. This is partially due to my slow internet speed. I am used to scrolling through old topics and clicking on a select few (often from people I know tend to have meaningful comments). With the forums I need to open each separate topic.

    3. Need to logon - Related to above. I need to logon and check the forum. The newsgroup I just clicked on the tab on thunderbird and it was there. I could check in seconds.

    4. Replies to email - While the replies to posts being sent to email has its benefits, it could overwhelm my inbox, as where the newsgroup had it available and self contained. (I will likely set up an email filter to send it to a folder to put the forum emails together and remove this Con.)

     

    Overall:

    I will likely only come to the forums if I have a specific question/problem. By comparison, I looked at the newsgroups almost daily. I do like that I will be able to use the newsgroups on the road, but will rarely do that since I don't often have time when I am traveling anyhow. Even if speed were not an issue, I would probably rarely use the forums since it isn't right there on Thunderbird.

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  • Randall Hartman
    Randall Hartman Member Posts: 502 ✭✭
  • TCBlack
    TCBlack Member Posts: 10,978

    You're right Dr. Hartman, that sums it up.  All of the above manages to touch in one way or another upon my likes and dislikes of the NG's and the forums. 

    Last thing I'll say is that the ONLY reason I have a newsreader installed any more is the Logos Newsgroups.  Lose them and switch to forums and at least I can remove that bit of software and quit dealing with it's idiosyncracies.

    Hmm Sarcasm is my love language. Obviously I love you. 

  • Bohuslav Wojnar
    Bohuslav Wojnar Member Posts: 3,466

    Well, I am trying my best but still find it hard to move through the posts I want to read. It looks much more unclear than in the newsgroups. I hope I will adjust to is eventually. I tried RSS. I don't think it is a solution to make it more clear. We will see.

    Bohuslav

  • (‾◡◝)
    (‾◡◝) Member Posts: 923 ✭✭

    JUST Testing / playing around / experimenting  [~]

    I much prefer the tree/thread format in the Newsgroups ... it makes following the various bunny trails easier,  but this is workable.   I certainly wouldn't want to have a meltdown over it and then have to be brought under control ...

     

    0284.How to Handle Complainers.wmv

     

    Sound clips, too ....

    8132.Popeye laugh.wav

     

    [;)]

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  • Peter Covert
    Peter Covert Member Posts: 9 ✭✭

    Bob, have you heard of Google wave?  I think this will be better than NG and forums.  Here are a couple of links: http://wave.google.com/ and http://wave.google.com/help/wave/about.html.

    I believe it address all of the issues that people have mentioned here in this forum and in the newsgroups.

  • Milford Charles Murray
    Milford Charles Murray Member Posts: 5,004 ✭✭✭

    Peace to you, Dave!

    *smile*

    Was able to download your zip file.  Had it before, but thot I'd try it again!  Thanx once again for doing all that work for us ...

    ....   Mel

    Philippians 4:  4 Rejoice in the Lord always; again I will say, Rejoice. 5 Let your reasonableness be known to everyone. The Lord is at hand..........

  • George Somsel
    George Somsel Member Posts: 10,153 ✭✭✭

    With breeches in the newsgroups recently, I'm concerned that eventually we may see a jpeg displayed that we ought not to see. At least with most NNTP readers, you have to choose to view the picture.

    While I'm not interested in seeing untoward pictures posted either, I'm not greatly concerned -- after all, we are all adults and can simply ignore them.  Of course, the only way of keeping them from being thrown in your face every time you visit the page would be to delete them.  Is there such a facility in these fora?

    george
    gfsomsel

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  • George Somsel
    George Somsel Member Posts: 10,153 ✭✭✭

    You can edit your own posts. That's pretty cool.

    Really?  I hadn't noticed that and still don't see it.  Where is it?  If we're going to be stuck with this, I might as well learn to use it as well as possible.

    george
    gfsomsel

    יְמֵי־שְׁנוֹתֵינוּ בָהֶם שִׁבְעִים שָׁנָה וְאִם בִּגְבוּרֹת שְׁמוֹנִים שָׁנָה וְרָהְבָּם עָמָל וָאָוֶן

  • Rich DeRuiter
    Rich DeRuiter Member, MVP Posts: 6,729

    You can edit your own posts. That's pretty cool.

    Really?  I hadn't noticed that and still don't see it.  Where is it?  If we're going to be stuck with this, I might as well learn to use it as well as possible.

    You can edit your posts by clicking the "More" button next to the "Reply" button on your own posts. I notice that this ability disappears after a while (a day? after someone replies? some other criterion?).

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  • David Ladiges
    David Ladiges Member Posts: 290 ✭✭

    Editing posts is currently enabled for 10 hours after a post is made. This should give plenty of time to correct any typos or change formatting but doesn't let one go back and change a post days after it was made as that could really throw off the continuity of any following posts.

    The 10 hour limit may change - I notice most of my typos in emails immediately after hitting send so a 10 minute edit window would be plenty for me!

  • George Somsel
    George Somsel Member Posts: 10,153 ✭✭✭

    I like reading the newsgroups. But since I switched to a free web-based e-mail account (using wireless to connect to my son's ISP) I haven't been able to figure out how to post to a newsgroup.  I used to connect through AOL and they dropped the ability to read newsgroups years ago.


    Not so very long ago I was using AOL on a dial-up connection and had no problem getting the Newsgroups.  Admitedly I launched Outlook Express to do so, but that has long been my practice with the Newsgroups.  I now use Windows Mail because I don't seem to have OE on Vista or I would still be using it.

    george
    gfsomsel

    יְמֵי־שְׁנוֹתֵינוּ בָהֶם שִׁבְעִים שָׁנָה וְאִם בִּגְבוּרֹת שְׁמוֹנִים שָׁנָה וְרָהְבָּם עָמָל וָאָוֶן

  • Michael Birney
    Michael Birney Member Posts: 225 ✭✭

    I had really given up on the newsgroups, to me, it was a pain and outdated.   I am a active member of other forums, and I think it will be much easier to be active here now also. 

  • J.R. Miller
    J.R. Miller Member Posts: 3,566 ✭✭✭

    i am glad to switch to the web forum and very happy it is tied in with my existing account so I don't have to have another pw and user name![:)]

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  • Kevin A. Purcell
    Kevin A. Purcell Member Posts: 3,404 ✭✭✭

    I have become a big fan of forums  while I use to love newsgroups.  But I am not sure I like this interface as much as vBulletin which is on of my favorites.  Why did you go with this interface?

    Dr. Kevin Purcell, Director of Missions
    Brushy Mountain Baptist Association

    www.kevinpurcell.org

  • J.R. Miller
    J.R. Miller Member Posts: 3,566 ✭✭✭

    If I can jump in, Bob mentioned in another thread that they chose this system, in part, because they could integrate the forum login with the UID/login info already associated with each person's Libronix ID

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  • Kevin A. Purcell
    Kevin A. Purcell Member Posts: 3,404 ✭✭✭

    That's understandable. I can get used to it, but we all have our prefs.

    Dr. Kevin Purcell, Director of Missions
    Brushy Mountain Baptist Association

    www.kevinpurcell.org

  • Dave Hooton
    Dave Hooton Member, MVP Posts: 35,667 ✭✭✭

    The 10 hour limit may change - I notice most of my typos in emails immediately after hitting send so a 10 minute edit window would be plenty for me!

    David, if you are a Logos employee it would help if that fact was displayed (also for people I already know, because others may not!).

    One hour would do for me as I made 6 edits of one post at roughly ten-minute intervals!!

    Dave
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  • Wes Saad
    Wes Saad Member Posts: 1,601 ✭✭✭

    I have become a big fan of forums  while I use to love newsgroups.  But I am not sure I like this interface as much as vBulletin which is on of my favorites.  Why did you go with this interface?

    Looks like they are using Community Server, http://communityserver.com/

  • David Ladiges
    David Ladiges Member Posts: 290 ✭✭

    David, if you are a Logos employee it would help if that fact was displayed (also for people I already know, because others may not!).

    That would be a useful feature!  I'll add that to my list of things to check on.

  • Chris Cannatella
    Chris Cannatella Member Posts: 1 ✭✭

    I prefer the web forum.  Hope all is well with you Bob.  Say "Hi" to the family for me!

     

    Chris Cannatella

     

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  • Kevin A. Purcell
    Kevin A. Purcell Member Posts: 3,404 ✭✭✭

    Clinton Tomhas said: The "recent topics" listing on the first page - is there a way to indicate which forum the post is from.

     

    I too hate this.  Could you maybe put this off to the side or below?  Or give me an option to remove it altogether?

     

    Dr. Kevin Purcell, Director of Missions
    Brushy Mountain Baptist Association

    www.kevinpurcell.org

  • Kevin A. Purcell
    Kevin A. Purcell Member Posts: 3,404 ✭✭✭

    Dr. Kevin Purcell, Director of Missions
    Brushy Mountain Baptist Association

    www.kevinpurcell.org