What do you think of web forums instead of newsgroups?

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  • Paul T. McCain
    Paul T. McCain Member Posts: 33

    Excellent, and welcome to 2009!

    : )

     

    Kudos Logos.

  • Brian Whalen
    Brian Whalen Member Posts: 67 ✭✭

    I dislike web forums just because of the layers of content, and the fact that I dont get the data locally, I'm a mailing list kind of guy.  I'll give this a go, I'm an IT professional and still have a difficult time with this software.

    Brian Whalen

    http://www.mcnazarene.com

  • Rob Kuefner
    Rob Kuefner Member Posts: 160

    I think having it web based is probably the way to go. Seems like there were just periodic problems getting on the news group servers and at times, it seems like the server is down. I also like the ability to access from anywhere. I'm guessing I might make use of it more, as currently I have to use Windows mail, as Outlook doesn't have a news reader, so I'm not always likely to remember to open it. I do however spend a lot of time in by browser. That's my two cents...

  • Pastor Michael Huffman
    Pastor Michael Huffman Member Posts: 634 ✭✭

    I prefer the forum instead of the newgroups which came to me through outlook. I was never sure if outlook had competely downlaoaded all of the posts. Thank you Logos, once again, for making my life easier.[:D]

    Pastor Michael Huffman, Th.A Th.B Th.M

  • John Hapgood
    John Hapgood Member Posts: 146 ✭✭

    I'm interested in your feedback on our new web forums.

    Do you prefer this to the NNTP newsgroups? Are there advantages/disadvantages?


    I just started using the Forum yesterday. Most of the time I cant tell who is reply to what message. Never had that problem with NNTP. 

    What is the button "Select Tags..." for?

  • Dave Hooton
    Dave Hooton Member, MVP Posts: 35,667 ✭✭✭

    I just started using the Forum yesterday. Most of the time I cant tell who is reply to what message. Never had that problem with NNTP.

    Give it some more time. Because others have to learn about "Reply" and use of the "Quote" button vs. "Quick Reply".

    What is the button "Select Tags..." for?

    Press it and all shall be revealed.

    Dave
    ===

    Windows 11 & Android 13

  • Mike W
    Mike W Member Posts: 277 ✭✭

    I like the forums because I can access them from a browser on any computer (I can't use newsgroups while at work).

  • George Somsel
    George Somsel Member Posts: 10,153 ✭✭✭

    I just started using the Forum yesterday. Most of the time I cant tell who is reply to what message. Never had that problem with NNTP. 

    I know exactly what you mean.  That is the really big gripe that I have about this setup.  The Newsgroup had a tree structure so that you could see at a glance what anyone was replying to.  Here, unless they quote from the post they are replying (and frequently they don't), who knows what it's all about?

    george
    gfsomsel

    יְמֵי־שְׁנוֹתֵינוּ בָהֶם שִׁבְעִים שָׁנָה וְאִם בִּגְבוּרֹת שְׁמוֹנִים שָׁנָה וְרָהְבָּם עָמָל וָאָוֶן

  • George Somsel
    George Somsel Member Posts: 10,153 ✭✭✭

    I like the forums because I can access them from a browser on any computer (I can't use newsgroups while at work).


    Why not?  If you can get on the internet you should be able to get the Newsgroup unless you don't have OE, T-bird, Microsoft Mail or whatever.

    george
    gfsomsel

    יְמֵי־שְׁנוֹתֵינוּ בָהֶם שִׁבְעִים שָׁנָה וְאִם בִּגְבוּרֹת שְׁמוֹנִים שָׁנָה וְרָהְבָּם עָמָל וָאָוֶן

  • Todd Phillips
    Todd Phillips Member Posts: 6,733 ✭✭✭

    Why not?

    Corporate firewalls tend to block all TCP/IP ports not required by the business for security reasons.  This includes internet news (NNTP) ports.

    MacBook Pro (2019), ThinkPad E540

  • Rob Suggs
    Rob Suggs Member Posts: 108 ✭✭

    Will use them much more. I was an advocate of newsgroups for years, feeling techno-superiority over those who only knew how to open a browser. But today, a Web forum is a no-brainer. So much more can be done than five or six years ago. RSS, linked video--whatever. I checked in occasionally on two or three of the newsgroups, but I'm more likely to be a regular on a Web forum.

  • Esther Jones
    Esther Jones Member Posts: 134

    Never used the newsgroups here.  Have been using other forums for many, many years. 

    Very glad Logos now has a forum!

    There are better clients out there, though...this one seems quite limited.  Crosswalk has a great one, quite versatile and customizable and user-friendly.

    Add an "edit" post, among other things.

     

    Esther

  • George Somsel
    George Somsel Member Posts: 10,153 ✭✭✭

    There are better clients out there, though...this one seems quite limited.  Crosswalk has a great one, quite versatile and customizable and user-friendly.

    Add an "edit" post, among other things.

    There is an "edit" capability.  Look under "More."

    george
    gfsomsel

    יְמֵי־שְׁנוֹתֵינוּ בָהֶם שִׁבְעִים שָׁנָה וְאִם בִּגְבוּרֹת שְׁמוֹנִים שָׁנָה וְרָהְבָּם עָמָל וָאָוֶן

  • John McComb
    John McComb Member Posts: 129 ✭✭

    There is an "edit" capability.  Look under "More."

    All I can see under "More" is "Report Abuse", "Add this Post as a Favorite" and "Add this Forum as a Favorite".

    Yours in Christ

    John

  • George Somsel
    George Somsel Member Posts: 10,153 ✭✭✭

    There is an "edit" capability.  Look under "More."

    All I can see under "More" is "Report Abuse", "Add this Post as a Favorite" and "Add this Forum as a Favorite".

    Yours in Christ

    John


    But was it your own post, and was it within the period when editing is allowed?

    george
    gfsomsel

    יְמֵי־שְׁנוֹתֵינוּ בָהֶם שִׁבְעִים שָׁנָה וְאִם בִּגְבוּרֹת שְׁמוֹנִים שָׁנָה וְרָהְבָּם עָמָל וָאָוֶן

  • John McComb
    John McComb Member Posts: 129 ✭✭

    All I can see under "More" is "Report Abuse", "Add this Post as a Favorite" and "Add this Forum as a Favorite".

    Yours in Christ

    John


    But was it your own post, and was it within the period when editing is allowed?

    No, I checked one of your posts George. I figure if Logos wants to preserve any kind of integrity on this site they should at least allow me the ability to delete the silly things you say.

    O.K.... sorry. Sarcasm not allowed. I'll delete it when I get a window in my schedule. Maybe next week.

    I didn't know about any time limit. If somebody mentioned it earlier I missed it. Yes, I see the edit option now. What are the time constraints?

     

  • George Somsel
    George Somsel Member Posts: 10,153 ✭✭✭

    I didn't know about any time limit. If somebody mentioned it earlier I missed it. Yes, I see the edit option now. What are the time constraints

    I seem to recall 10 hrs.

    george
    gfsomsel

    יְמֵי־שְׁנוֹתֵינוּ בָהֶם שִׁבְעִים שָׁנָה וְאִם בִּגְבוּרֹת שְׁמוֹנִים שָׁנָה וְרָהְבָּם עָמָל וָאָוֶן

  • John McComb
    John McComb Member Posts: 129 ✭✭

    I seem to recall 10 hrs.

    Sounds reasonable. Certainly better than nothing.

    I have a bad habit of not noticing my most embarrassing typos until after I've pushed the "Post" button. This only seems to be a problem on message boards though. Not so much on news groups. I wonder why that is.

  • Chuck Jaeger
    Chuck Jaeger Member Posts: 25 ✭✭

    I really like it. Very good move forward. Thanks

  • George Somsel
    George Somsel Member Posts: 10,153 ✭✭✭

    I really like it. Very good move forward. Thanks


    I don't particularly like it though there are elements I like. If they are going to insist on sticking a knife in the Newsgroup, I would rather see a mailing list something like the b-greek forum -- http://lists.ibiblio.org/pipermail/b-greek/,  There you can sort the posts according to thread, subject, author or date.  It is searcheable by Google as well which seems to be a concern of some though I tend to think it an advantage to not appear on Google.

    george
    gfsomsel

    יְמֵי־שְׁנוֹתֵינוּ בָהֶם שִׁבְעִים שָׁנָה וְאִם בִּגְבוּרֹת שְׁמוֹנִים שָׁנָה וְרָהְבָּם עָמָל וָאָוֶן

  • Gerald P. Swetsky
    Gerald P. Swetsky Member Posts: 296

    Though I much prefer forums to newsgroups, there are many different styles of forums and this one is not my favorite.  I think my main request would be to be able to tell from the menu screen who was the author of an article in addition to the presently visible name of the last poster.

    Gerry

  • Aeolus Jacobus
    Aeolus Jacobus Member Posts: 71 ✭✭

    Though I much prefer forums to newsgroups, there are many different styles of forums and this one is not my favorite.  I think my main request would be to be able to tell from the menu screen who was the author of an article in addition to the presently visible name of the last poster.

    Gerry


     

     

    I'm unclear. Are you just refering to the individual post you are speaking to, or that post and the post that post was refering to?

  • Rich DeRuiter
    Rich DeRuiter Member, MVP Posts: 6,729

    I'm interested in your feedback on our new web forums.

    Do you prefer this to the NNTP newsgroups? Are there advantages/disadvantages?

    I've been trying to be fair, but this format is just too clunky to be useful. It's impossible to follow a conversation, navigation is time consuming (especially when compared to newsgroups), and there still isn't a help file for many of the 'features.'

    I realize that you'll need to go the way of web forums, but this forum software just isn't up to Logos standards of excellence and ease of use (IMHO). How about a different forum software? Many have been suggested. I don't like forums but I've been on forums that seem to work better than this.

     Help links: WIKI;  Logos 6 FAQ. (Phil. 2:14, NIV)

  • Floyd  Johnson
    Floyd Johnson Member Posts: 4,007 ✭✭✭

    While I'm not interested in seeing untoward pictures posted either, I'm not greatly concerned -- after all, we are all adults and can simply ignore them.

    George, this may be true for you.  But for some of us it may not be so easy.  My past is not as pure as I would wish - I cannot predict when an inappropriate image or comment could send me where I do not want to go.  By the grace of God, it will not; but in reality, it could.  I expect that I may not be the only one troubled by such pictures.

    Yours because His,

    Floyd

    Blessings,
    Floyd

    Pastor-Patrick.blogspot.com

  • Gerald P. Swetsky
    Gerald P. Swetsky Member Posts: 296

    Well, I had a nice reply configured and I hit the Options button above and lost my entire text.  Not only that, but the item I quoted is gone!

    I've seen forums, I use them all the time.  This is without a doubt the worst, most poorly written forum software I've ever seen in my life!!  No wonder everyone is opting for the newsgroups!

    There is a plethora of free forum software out there.  What of it I've worked with is quite good.  It only requires the installation of MySql and a php server.  Two hours work at most.  If I can set it up, anyone can!

    Gerry

  • Trey Selman
    Trey Selman Member Posts: 232 ✭✭

    Prefer newsgroups

    • Much easier to navigate
    • Less space
    • Faster
    • Easier to follow threads

     

    A thread view option in the fourm would be greatly appreciated - Creative cow forums provide a thread view that was similar to the newsgroup.

    Thanks for everything you do - great program and looking forward to the days ahead.

  • Aeolus Jacobus
    Aeolus Jacobus Member Posts: 71 ✭✭

    Prefer newsgroups

    • Much easier to navigate
    • Less space
    • Faster
    • Easier to follow threads

     

    A thread view option in the fourm would be greatly appreciated - Creative cow forums provide a thread view that was similar to the newsgroup.

    Thanks for everything you do - great program and looking forward to the days ahead.

     

    Llink to this creative cow? I'm unclear of the difference between the thread you are posting in and how you look at that and any "thread view" a NG might have? Are you not now looking at the thread dedicated to our reactions to the forums?

     

  • George Somsel
    George Somsel Member Posts: 10,153 ✭✭✭

    Llink to this creative cow? I'm unclear of the difference between the thread you are posting in and how you look at that and any "thread view" a NG might have? Are you not now looking at the thread dedicated to our reactions to the forums?

    Not really.  This is more like looking at a tangled skein of yarn.

    george
    gfsomsel

    יְמֵי־שְׁנוֹתֵינוּ בָהֶם שִׁבְעִים שָׁנָה וְאִם בִּגְבוּרֹת שְׁמוֹנִים שָׁנָה וְרָהְבָּם עָמָל וָאָוֶן