Hide 'n' Seek (Round 1)
***Forum Week event***
"How do I ________ with Logos?"
"What do other users think of ________ resource?"
"I wonder if anybody else would like _________ resource in Logos' format."
No doubt you've had many thoughts like these. But the odds are incredibly high that someone else has already asked (or answered) your question, right here in the forums.
Hide 'n' Seek
Just a heads-up to make sure everyone has a chance to understand how this works: We'll be doing a few Hide 'n' Seek questions throughout the week to give new users a glimpse of what kind of info is available in the forums and to test everyone else's Forum-fu (see Google-fu).
Things to note:
- Each question already has an answer somewhere in the forums. The first person to link to that answer (not to post a new answer themselves) will win. Only answers that were already in the forums can be used.
- The prize is $30 credit at Logos.com
- There are three levels of questions corresponding to three levels of users. Answer the appropriate question (based on your number of cumulative posts).
- If you're the person who supplied the original answer, you're not eligible to win that particular round. (e.g., If the question were, "Does Bob use a Mac or a PC primarily?" The winning post would be the first one that links to http://community.logos.com/forums/p/33729/255130.aspx#255130, but Bob couldn't be the person to post it.)
TIP: The best way to search the forums effectively is to use the following search syntax from Google: [search query] site:community.logos.com
(e.g., Bob uses Apple site:community.logos.com)
Stay tuned for the first round of questions after a we give you all a some time to make sure I've explained everything clearly.
Comments
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Kevin Becker said:
Does the "Hide" part mean it won't be in this particular forum?
No, but that's a great idea! In fact, maybe I should go edit past posts so they don't even appear in "recent topics!" [6]
Actually, the "hide" part doesn't mean anything more than that I have just fallen prey to a danger preachers commonly face as well: I given higher priority to form than I have to content. (No doubt you've sat through a sermon like "The 15 Ps of Propitiation.")
I thought "Hide 'n' Seek" sounded fun [<:o)] ...I really didn't want to just call this "Seek" ...
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ROUND 1:
Difficult (for users with 501+ posts)
When doing a basic search in Logos 4, how do you limit your search range to a particular book in the Bible? (link to simplest solution takes priority)
<<<Edit for clarity: Do a basic search for a particular query and limit the range of the search to a particular book of the Bible>>>Moderate (for users with 101–500 posts)
In Logos 4, how do you use highlighting and visual filters in to change LORD to Yahweh? (Must include link to answer as well as a screenshot of this solution implemented in your software)Easy (for users with 0–100 posts)
Ever want to have two Bibles or a Bible and another resource scroll together as you read? Find out how to "link windows so they scroll together" and post the thread with the answer below.The first person to answer the appropriate question based on their post count according to the outlined guidlines will win $30 credit at Logos.com
Go!!!
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Stephen Smith said:
Difficult (for users with 501+ posts)
When doing a basic search in Logos 4, how do you limit your search range to a particular book in the Bible? (link to simplest solution takes priority)http://community.logos.com/forums/p/4336/33750.aspx#33750 demonstrates the principle I think you are looking for.
Graham
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Easy - http://community.logos.com/forums/t/14797.aspx - I'm not sure how to link to a specific post in the thread.
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http://community.logos.com/forums/t/16999.aspx
ok well snap I don't have the ability to post this from my computer off hand. Someone else... HAVE AT IT!
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Paul Newsome said:Stephen Smith said:
Moderate (for users with 101–500 posts)
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Stephen Smith said:
Difficult (for users with 501+ posts)
When doing a basic search in Logos 4, how do you limit your search range to a particular book in the Bible? (link to simplest solution takes priority)Technically, you can't do what you're asking (at least I think so)
If you're looking for the ability to find where a chapter range is searched for then Graham's answer is good. But you appear to ask is if you can search i.e. just the book of John with a basic search; am I correct?
I will gladly apologize if wrong, but I don't think this is possible.
Prov. 15:23
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Kevin Becker said:
But you appear to ask is if you can search i.e. just the book of John with a basic search; am I correct?
You are correct....and the answer resides somewhere in the forum already. [:)]
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http://community.logos.com/forums/t/16999.aspx
I used a visual filter to highlight all instances of "יהוה" in a lovely pink color
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Yeah, I also know the answer AND have used it... but I'm on the computer at work. No screenshot. Oh well.
"The whole modern world has divided itself into Conservatives and Progressives. The business of Progressives is to go on making mistakes. The business of Conservatives is to prevent mistakes from being corrected."- G.K. Chesterton
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Stephen Smith said:
Difficult (for users with 501+ posts)
When doing a basic search in Logos 4, how do you limit your search range to a particular book in the Bible? (link to simplest solution takes priority)
<<<Edit for clarity: Do a basic search for a particular query and limit the range of the search to a particular book of the Bible>>>Is that what you are looking for? http://community.logos.com/forums/t/14091.aspx
Bohuslav
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Paul Newsome said:
http://community.logos.com/forums/t/16999.aspx
I used a visual filter to highlight all instances of "יהוה" in a lovely pink color
Bingo!
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Stephen Smith said:Kevin Becker said:
But you appear to ask is if you can search i.e. just the book of John with a basic search; am I correct?
You are correct....and the answer resides somewhere in the forum already.
I know exactly how to do it. I just can't find a thread about it. How annoying!
Mac Pro (late 2013) OS 12.6.2
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Stephen Smith said:
Difficult (for users with 501+ posts)
When doing a basic search in Logos 4, how do you limit your search range to a particular book in the Bible? (link to simplest solution takes priority)The principle can be found in http://community.logos.com/forums/p/26182/193071.aspx#193071
EDIT: If you want me to, I can now post a screenshot where I've done such a search.
Mac Pro (late 2013) OS 12.6.2
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How to get 2 windows to scroll together? Check out this link: http://community.logos.com/forums/p/14797/113085.aspx
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Diving into the Intermediate challenge somewhat more. I wanted to make sure I posted a screenshot of what was requested.
I'm curious now if the originator of the answer (Jacob H.) was using the Mac or PC version of L4 to make his visual filter
Everytime I copy what he did I get a redundant "Yahweh" in my subscript where only "Lord" should be. I attempted the highlighting coutless times and keep getting the same result. Is this a bug?
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Stephen Smith said:Kevin Becker said:
But you appear to ask is if you can search i.e. just the book of John with a basic search; am I correct?
You are correct....and the answer resides somewhere in the forum already.
If you were thinking about KS4J's post here: http://community.logos.com/forums/p/32600/243295.aspx#243295 , it doesn't work to restrict a search to John. I tried it.
Prov. 15:23
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Stephen Smith said:
Difficult (for users with 501+ posts)
When doing a basic search in Logos 4, how do you limit your search range to a particular book in the Bible? (link to simplest solution takes priority)
<<<Edit for clarity: Do a basic search for a particular query and limit the range of the search to a particular book of the Bible>>>http://community.logos.com/forums/p/28018/207407.aspx#207407
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Kevin Becker said:Stephen Smith said:Kevin Becker said:
But you appear to ask is if you can search i.e. just the book of John with a basic search; am I correct?
You are correct....and the answer resides somewhere in the forum already.
If you were thinking about KS4J's post here: http://community.logos.com/forums/p/32600/243295.aspx#243295 , it doesn't work to restrict a search to John. I tried it.
I'm with Kevin. I'll be astounded if it can be done.
MacBook Pro (2019), ThinkPad E540
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Todd Phillips said:
I'm with Kevin. I'll be astounded if it can be done.
I think the tack that fgh would take (based on his link to Mark's announcement of the highlighting video) I would guess that one could highlight an entire book of the Bible and then use a basic search on that highlight. But that solution is soooo kludgy that I have a hard time imagining it being useful.
Prov. 15:23
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Stephen Smith said:
ROUND 1:
Easy (for users with 0–100 posts)
Ever want to have two Bibles or a Bible and another resource scroll together as you read? Find out how to "link windows so they scroll together" and post the thread with the answer below.
Here's the link, http://community.logos.com/forums/p/14797/113085.aspx#113085
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Kevin Becker said:
If you were thinking about KS4J's post here: http://community.logos.com/forums/p/32600/243295.aspx#243295 , it doesn't work to restrict a search to John. I tried it.
Well, it's comforting to know that you read his post the same way I did. [:$] Truth is, it's really difficult to come up with questions to challenge power users....major kudos for coming up with the answer to the question I meant to ask if I wanted to point people to that exact post! I'll get it better next time. Big win!
EDIT: Since Graham, Bohuslav, and fgh all posted with valiant efforts at finding an answer that didn't exist before Kevin's post, they're included in this round of winners as well. fgh, if you can in fact do a search like this, providing screenshots would no doubt interest many users!
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Stephen Smith said:Kevin Becker said:
If you were thinking about KS4J's post here: http://community.logos.com/forums/p/32600/243295.aspx#243295 , it doesn't work to restrict a search to John. I tried it.
Well, it's comforting to know that you read his post the same way I did.
Truth is, it's really difficult to come up with questions to challenge power users....major kudos for coming up with the answer to the question I meant to ask if I wanted to point people to that exact post! I'll get it better next time. Big win!Hey, no worries! I just wish I would have posted when I first found that post. I flailed around for over an hour trying to find the post that worked [:)].
Prov. 15:23
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Hey, Stephen, why not make searching the forums more user-friendly – have a search function that actually searches the forums, rather than having to perform arcane searches on other search engines.
That would be more welcome to me (and a lot of newbie users) than special offers.
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Alan Macgregor said:
why not make searching the forums more user-friendly – have a search function that actually searches the forums, rather than having to perform arcane searches on other search engines
Since it is so easy to insert code from Google in order to use their search engine on one's website, why not do that instead of directing users to the search engine's own site?
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Alan Macgregor said:
Hey, Stephen, why not make searching the forums more user-friendly – have a search function that actually searches the forums, rather than having to perform arcane searches on other search engines.
That's a dev-level question. I know they looked at a lot of forum software options and that some really important factors led them to this choice, in spite of the current search functionality. Beyond that, I don't know many of the specifics. Thankfully there are still some ways to search the forums and come up with great results in the meantime.
A genuine thanks for the suggestion. We're always looking for ways to make the Logos products and experience better on every level, which makes user suggestions much more valuable and useful than any of you might realize!
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Kevin Becker said:Stephen Smith said:Kevin Becker said:
If you were thinking about KS4J's post here: http://community.logos.com/forums/p/32600/243295.aspx#243295 , it doesn't work to restrict a search to John. I tried it.
Well, it's comforting to know that you read his post the same way I did.
Truth is, it's really difficult to come up with questions to challenge power users....major kudos for coming up with the answer to the question I meant to ask if I wanted to point people to that exact post! I'll get it better next time. Big win!Hey, no worries! I just wish I would have posted when I first found that post. I flailed around for over an hour trying to find the post that worked
.Observation: referenced post includes:
Bible intersection includes footnotes with references to book of John along with occurrences in book of John.
Basic Search results included more than book of John.
Apologies, currently not know how to restrict Basic Search inside a particular book, but can find references to a particular book with other word(s):
Screen capture shows Footnote results in a couple Bibles (noted one footnote in Psalms 31), search results included many more resources in my library.
Keep Smiling [:)]
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Stephen Smith said:
EDIT: Since Graham, Bohuslav, and fgh all posted with valiant efforts at finding an answer that didn't exist before Kevin's post, they're included in this round of winners as well. fgh, if you can in fact do a search like this, providing screenshots would no doubt interest many users!
I'm not fgh, but here's proof: http://community.logos.com/forums/t/34572.aspx (I came to the answer independently). <edit>I posted that after the challenge was issued, so it doesn't qualify for the prize</edit>
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Stephen Smith said:
EDIT: Since Graham, Bohuslav, and fgh all posted with valiant efforts at finding an answer that didn't exist before Kevin's post, they're included in this round of winners as well. fgh, if you can in fact do a search like this, providing screenshots would no doubt interest many users!
Stephen,
a hint: people like me don't read the forums on the forums; we subscribe to new posts, so, unless we go there to answer something, we don't notice when you add something in an EDIT. [;)] Consequently I didn't have a clue you'd asked for screenshots until Mark's new post, quoting yours, turned up in my e-mail a short while ago.
Sure I did the search, just like Mark did it (using a highlighting style I had created earlier, but knew I hadn't yet used):
What I would like to know is why the search claims that there are two Lord's in v16, when one of them is, in fact, in v 20? Is this a bug, or is there something I don't understand going on? Can someone try this exact search on PC?
I would also like to know why I can't click at the beginning at the text, and then shift-click at the end of the text to mark all of it at once. Instead I had to click, hold down, move the cursor down to the bottom, let the resource scroll to the end, and then release, before I could apply the highlighting. Even with such a short book as Philemon it took an uncomfortably long time. John, which I first tried with, was simply too much. Click>shift-click would have taken seconds. (And now I have to get rid of the highlighting again, which will also take a lot of time!) Again, can someone tell me if this works better on PC?
Mac Pro (late 2013) OS 12.6.2
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Hi fgh
fgh said:What I would like to know is why the search claims that there are two Lord's in v16, when one of them is, in fact, in v 20? Is this a bug, or is there something I don't understand going on? Can someone try this exact search on PC?
I get the same results on the PC.
I believe what is happening here is that each pericope in NRSV is being seen as an article. With pericope boundaries being at vv4, 8 & 23 you get the results we are seeing.
fgh said:I would also like to know why I can't click at the beginning at the text, and then shift-click at the end of the text to mark all of it at once. Instead I had to click, hold down, move the cursor down to the bottom, let the resource scroll to the end, and then release, before I could apply the highlighting. Even with such a short book as Philemon it took an uncomfortably long time. John, which I first tried with, was simply too much. Click>shift-click would have taken seconds. (And now I have to get rid of the highlighting again, which will also take a lot of time!) Again, can someone tell me if this works better on PC?
Click->Shift-click works as you would hope on the PC. It is easy to do Philemon in a couple of clicks (as all the text is on the same page). For larger passages (such as John) you have to scroll down which can still take a bit of time but works well.
Hope this helps
Graham
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Graham Criddle said:
I get the same results on the PC.
I believe what is happening here is that each pericope in NRSV is being seen as an article. With pericope boundaries being at vv4, 8 & 23 you get the results we are seeing.
That makes sense! I noticed that they were in different verses, different sentences, and different paragraphs, but I didn't think of checking where the pericope boundaries were. So, the search is correct, but the display of it is somewhat less than crystal clear. If it displays by pericope, it should list by pericope, and not by verse.
Graham Criddle said:Click->Shift-click works as you would hope on the PC.
So, another thing to add to the feature parity list...
Though actually I think it's a bug rather than a missing feature, because when I tried to select all of John, it did highlight some, but only a pericope or two at the end, not at all what I had covered. I'll try it out a bit more and write a bug report.
Thanks for testing.
Mac Pro (late 2013) OS 12.6.2
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fgh said:
Though actually I think it's a bug rather than a missing feature, because when I tried to select all of John, it did highlight some, but only a pericope or two at the end, not at all what I had covered. I'll try it out a bit more and write a bug report
That happened to me on the PC, too (specifically, the select refused to cross chapter boundaries). However, when I tried it again to reply to your post here, it worked fine.
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Mark,
You posted just in time for me to see it when I created the finishing link in my bug report. Well, at least you're luckier than me. I haven't succeeded a single time yet.
Mac Pro (late 2013) OS 12.6.2
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Hi fgh
When I look at this more closely I get similar results to Mark.
Apologies for not checking more closely in the first place and so providing misleading information
Graham
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Ron Keyston Jr said:
I'm not sure how to link to a specific post in the thread.
This, my friend, would make an excellent post for "Get an answer to that burning question". I've been linking to particular posts lately, myself, but I can't imagine the clunky way I'm doing it is the best way out there!
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I will post it right now, thanks Stephen.
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