Vyrso on Kindle Fire.

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  • Carl Provost
    Carl Provost Member Posts: 9

    Maybe my laptop is slow, but when I enter pages it seems to take a while before the print export is ready. Also if the resource does not have page numbers you have to individually ck every box. I Prefer my method for entire books because it does not require me to build the books in peaces unless they exceed the clipboard capacity.

  • Milford Charles Murray
    Milford Charles Murray Member Posts: 5,004 ✭✭✭

    MJ. Smith said:


    Either with the Kindle or something more expensive, I would like to put various study documents and .pdf documents

    The Kindle Fire does handle a variety of documents - I've only tried PDF's thus far ... but I am going slowly because it is touch screen and I have inherited my great-grandfather's hand size.


    Thanks, MJ!                 *smile*                                                   Peace!

                  Perhaps you or someone else could help me make a final decision.  My daughter is getting antsy about no decision from me as to whether or not I want a Kindle from her for Christmas.  I have only a few more hours to make up my mind.                            

                            My only purpose for a reader is to read Logos and Vyrso books.  Plus some of my own .docs  and .pdfs.  I would be highly unlikely to buy an e-book from Amazon unless perhaps my dear wifey wanted one.            ............                   (I do not have 3g service, no mobile phone, but only a very good high-speed cable.)

                                         Therefore, can I possibly want a Kindle                      OR                should I ask my daughter to give me the money for me to put aside to save up for an iPad?               I can then put "money for an iPad" on my family wish list for Father's Day, my birthday, and whatever..             I've looked at some of the various tablets; however, they are expensive enough also.                    Perhaps it would be better to wait until I could get an iPad.

               The opinion of a dear brother or sister from the Forums Community would be very important to me at this point.             Bottom line:  if I settle for a Kindle now, would I always be wanting an iPad???                 Could I possibly be happy with a Kindle?                    I urgently desire an e-reader since I'm tired of reading from my desktop.

                     Thank you so much!   In advance   ...      for your kind opinion...............                *smile*                                     Hebrews 12:1

    Philippians 4:  4 Rejoice in the Lord always; again I will say, Rejoice. 5 Let your reasonableness be known to everyone. The Lord is at hand..........

  • Carl Provost
    Carl Provost Member Posts: 9

    Save for an Ipad. New version of Ipad comming out next year and rumor of a cheaper version to compete with the cheaper android tablets.

  • nicky crane
    nicky crane Member Posts: 1,374 ✭✭✭

    save for an older version iPad, as that will be cheaper.  I have an iPad 1 and don't feel deprived that it's not the latest model!  Tho Kindle is much better for reading in bright sunlight.  I have both, and use both, frequently, one or other several times a day.  I thought the iPad might be  an unjustified extravagance, but I'm getting full value out of it.  Kindle is handy in situations where I have to wait, church when the priest is late, bank, supermarket queue etc.  Or in Albanian buses, where I don't want to flash an iPad around.  In fACT KINDLE IS MORE CONVENIENT IN ANY BUSES - I also used it in Germany.

  • Friedrich
    Friedrich MVP Posts: 4,772

    Bottom line:  if I settle for a Kindle now, would I always be wanting an iPad???                 Could I possibly be happy with a Kindle?                    I urgently desire an e-reader since I'm tired of reading from my desktop.

    Charles, I have neither.  I'd say some of it comes down to how quickly you want to start reading and how long it will take you to get money for the iPad.  there is no question that if I could have either, i'd choose the ipad.  BUT, it might take me 1 or 2 years to have the money to get one.  Pretty sure I don't want to wait that long.  The iPad will always work better and be snappier in its performance and capabilities.  But, people have said the KF is fine for just reading.  With the extra 300 you'd spend for and ipad, think of all the resources you could get!  [:O]  [H]  [A]

     

    not an easy decision.

    I like Apples.  Especially Honeycrisp.

  • Friedrich
    Friedrich MVP Posts: 4,772

    Tho Kindle is much better for reading in bright sunlight.

    she is referring to the original "e-ink" kindles, and not the Kindle Fire (right, Nicky?), which is backlit like the iPads. 

     

    Nicky, I have begun to rethink my desire for a KF or iPad right now.  I might get by with a regular ol' Kindle I have and send personal documents to myself to read.  Not as convenient and powerful, but it can be done, and the reading pleasure is a bit better--unless it is dark. we'll see.  I vacillate so much on this! :)

     

    I like Apples.  Especially Honeycrisp.

  • Jerry Bush
    Jerry Bush Member Posts: 1,124 ✭✭✭

    Dan - I have a Kindle 3 and a Fire. The Fire does some cool things, but NOTHING beats reading on e-ink.

    I have a cover for my K3 that has a light built in to it and runs off the Kindle battery. It is fantastic. I don't need it most of the time, but it's nice to have.

    You can get a new one now as low as $80. I don't know if they make lighted covers for those however. They might, I just don't know one way or the other.

    Jerry

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  • Friedrich
    Friedrich MVP Posts: 4,772

    I have a cover for my K3 that has a light built in to it and runs off the Kindle battery.

    Hi Jerry, I have the same setup, although my wife often snags it and leaves me with the one that is without.  (we have two . . . long story).  But it is quite a bit heavier/awkward, imo.  I don't know how that would compare with holding the KF.

     

    I like Apples.  Especially Honeycrisp.

  • JT (alabama24)
    JT (alabama24) MVP Posts: 36,512

    If you are not worried about getting one by Christmas, there are rumors that Apple will begin to create additional pricing points with the iPad, just as they have done with the iPhone (you can get a 3G free, a 4 for $99, or 4s for $199). The rumor is that Apple will sell an "older" model (1 or 2 Gen) iPad at the $300 price point. These are just rumors (I know some don't like to hear them), so take it with a grain of salt. [:P]

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  • should I ask my daughter to give me the money for me to put aside to save up for an iPad? 

    Kindle and Nook apps are still available in iTunes for use on iOS devices, including iPad.

    Apple offers certified refurbished iPad's => http://store.apple.com/us/browse/home/specialdeals/ipad

    (I do not have 3g service, no mobile phone, but only a very good high-speed cable.)

    Option: add a wireless access point for use with high-speed cable.  Recommend wireless configuration using WPA2 with AES.

    Keep Smiling [:)]

  • nicky crane
    nicky crane Member Posts: 1,374 ✭✭✭

    Tho Kindle is much better for reading in bright sunlight.

    she is referring to the original "e-ink" kindles, and not the Kindle Fire (right, Nicky?), which is backlit like the iPads. 

     

    Nicky, I have begun to rethink my desire for a KF or iPad right now.  I might get by with a regular ol' Kindle I have and send personal documents to myself to read.  Not as convenient and powerful, but it can be done, and the reading pleasure is a bit better--unless it is dark. we'll see.  I vacillate so much on this! :)

     

    Yes, it's an e-ink kindle. A new cover with a light, which works on my ?Kindle keyboard, would be  cheaper than a KF!

     

  • Friedrich
    Friedrich MVP Posts: 4,772

    Yes, it's an e-ink kindle. A new cover with a light, which works on my ?Kindle keyboard, would be  cheaper than a KF!

     

    true.  I guess "inconvenience" is the only reason i am wanting a KF--i'd like to be able to browse my library and pick any book to read.  with the K3 I own, I have to think ahead, copy, send, remember to send to the right unit . . . and, any highlights/notes (which can't be done yet anyway) will not show up in Logos.  BUT, it is cheaper and easier on the eyes.

    I like Apples.  Especially Honeycrisp.

  • Philana Crouch
    Philana Crouch Member Posts: 2,151

    Yes, it's an e-ink kindle. A new cover with a light, which works on my ?Kindle keyboard, would be  cheaper than a KF!

     

    true.  I guess "inconvenience" is the only reason i am wanting a KF--i'd like to be able to browse my library and pick any book to read.  with the K3 I own, I have to think ahead, copy, send, remember to send to the right unit . . . and, any highlights/notes (which can't be done yet anyway) will not show up in Logos.  BUT, it is cheaper and easier on the eyes.

    You might find Kindle Fire easier on the eyes if black background with white text is easier on the eyes. I don't have a Kindle Fire, I use the iPad, but find this seeing is easier to read for longer periods (especially at night).

    Blessings,

    Philana

  • Friedrich
    Friedrich MVP Posts: 4,772

    You might find Kindle Fire easier on the eyes if black background with white text is easier on the eyes. I don't have a Kindle Fire, I use the iPad, but find this seeing is easier to read for longer periods (especially at night).

    hey Philan--always appreciate your input!  Yeah, I know about that feature, and when my wife lets me use her ipod touch, I have used it ([:)]).  e-ink is just nice, and is great for sunlit areas.  Anyway, still wondering myself about whether to get the KF, or save for an ipad.  :)

    I like Apples.  Especially Honeycrisp.

  • Linda
    Linda Member Posts: 8

    Can you use your kindle for vyrso books? I' like a simple kindle just for reading but would like to be able to have my vyrso books on it.

    Thanks, Linda

  • JT (alabama24)
    JT (alabama24) MVP Posts: 36,512

    Linda said:

    Can you use your kindle for vyrso books? I' like a simple kindle just for reading but would like to be able to have my vyrso books on it.

    There is not a Vyrso app for the regular Kindle, but there is an Andriod app which can be used on the Kindle Fire. Some users have spent time exporting Logos/Vyrso books to other formats to make them work on regular kindles, but I have no experience with that.

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  • NB.Mick
    NB.Mick MVP Posts: 15,973

    Linda said:

    Can you use your kindle for vyrso books? I' like a simple kindle just for reading but would like to be able to have my vyrso books on it.

    Thanks, Linda

    In addition to what Alabama said, you should be able to use the kindle browser to access your Vyrso books on biblia.com.

    Hope this helps,

    Mick

    Have joy in the Lord! Smile

  • Linda
    Linda Member Posts: 8

    Thanks, that helps.Changing books to other formats is not something I know how to do. I don't want to spend the extra money on a kindle fire just to be able to read a book on the go-so I'll just have to carry a real book with me.

  • Joe
    Joe Member Posts: 84

    A number of great ideas and suggestions!

    Does anyone know if they are planning to have a Vyrso App for the Kindle Fire?  If so, ETA?

  • JT (alabama24)
    JT (alabama24) MVP Posts: 36,512

    Joe said:

    Does anyone know if they are planning to have a Vyrso App for the Kindle Fire?  If so, ETA?

    Doesn't Logos already have an Andriod Vyrso app?

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  • Ralph Mauch
    Ralph Mauch Member Posts: 373 ✭✭

    alabama24 said:


    Joe said:

    Does anyone know if they are planning to have a Vyrso App for the Kindle Fire?  If so, ETA?

    Doesn't Logos already have an Andriod Vyrso app?


    I have the Kindle Fire and the Logos Bible Software app opens up both Vyrso and Logos books, same as the L4 does on a computer... searching the Kindle Apps under Vyrso did not take me to a different app, just the one I alreay have.

    Frustation warning... Vyrso books, or the ones I've got, do not have page numbers, which is very similar to Kindle books. If that's not a problem for you, then have at it, I can read everything that's in my L4, on the Fire, including Vyrso books.

    Hey Logos, creating a Vyrso sample book would be a great idea, similar to what I can get on my Kindle from amazon, just to see what some of the functionality of the book is once it's on my device, then when I reaced the end of the sample it gives me a hyperlink to buy the product.

     

  • JT (alabama24)
    JT (alabama24) MVP Posts: 36,512

    Frustation warning... Vyrso books, or the ones I've got, do not have page numbers, which is very similar to Kindle books.

    Vyrso books are "plane jane" except for Scripture hyperlinking. There will not be any page numbers.

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  • Joe
    Joe Member Posts: 84

    alabama24 said:

    Frustation warning... Vyrso books, or the ones I've got, do not have page numbers, which is very similar to Kindle books.

    Vyrso books are "plane jane" except for Scripture hyperlinking. There will not be any page numbers.

    Thanks!  Yeah, I guess you're right Ralph - there is no Vyrso App, but the Logos App will find the book and open it!

    [:D]

  • Rich DeRuiter
    Rich DeRuiter MVP Posts: 6,729

    Joe said:

    A number of great ideas and suggestions!

    Does anyone know if they are planning to have a Vyrso App for the Kindle Fire?  If so, ETA?

    I was able to install the Vyrso app (beta version) onto my Kindle from here: http://downloads.logos.com/Android/Vyrso/beta/index.html

    I was not able to download it from the Android store, since that store doesn't recognize the Kindle as an Android device (?!).

     Help links: WIKI;  Logos 6 FAQ. (Phil. 2:14, NIV)

  • Fernando A Gonzalez
    Fernando A Gonzalez Member Posts: 401 ✭✭

    I was able to install the Vyrso app (beta version) onto my Kindle from here: http://downloads.logos.com/Android/Vyrso/beta/index.html

    I was not able to download it from the Android store, since that store doesn't recognize the Kindle as an Android device (?!).

    The Kindle Fire will block the installation for security reasons as it is downloaded from an "unknown source".  I guess that may have to do with Kindle Fire using a slightly different Android operating system.  I wonder how is Vyrso working for you in the Kindle Fire.  

    Does anyone know if Logos will launch a Kindle approved Vyrso version as they did for Logos?  From the thread of this post it seems that there was one at some point in time.  Does anyone know why there isn't one now available in the Kindle Store (i.e., was that a "Kindle" or a "Logos" decision)?

    Blessings,  Fernando

  • Rich DeRuiter
    Rich DeRuiter MVP Posts: 6,729

    The Kindle Fire will block the installation for security reasons as it is downloaded from an "unknown source".

    There is a Kindle Fire setting that does allow this. I don't have my Kindle in front of me now, but it's in there somewhere. I was able to install Vyrso from the above site and it works without problems.

    Does anyone know if Logos will launch a Kindle approved Vyrso version as they did for Logos?  From the thread of this post it seems that there was one at some point in time.  Does anyone know why there isn't one now available in the Kindle Store (i.e., was that a "Kindle" or a "Logos" decision)?

    I don't really have an inside track on why this might be so. However, I like to guess, so here are my guesses: 1) the Vyrso for Android app is still in beta; 2) Amazon might not want the competition. I suspect #2 is the more important reason, but I really don't know.

     

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  • Fernando A Gonzalez
    Fernando A Gonzalez Member Posts: 401 ✭✭

    There is a Kindle Fire setting that does allow this.

    Yes, I found it in the settings.  One can turn it off for the installation and then turn it on again.  What I don't know is how will it work for the updates, my guess is that it won't update automatically since it will not be looking for it in the Kindle Store collection.

    I like to guess, so here are my guesses

    Those are good guesses...  The fact that it is still beta seems like a strong reason indeed.

    Thanks for your ideas.  Blessings, Fernando

  • Edward S Gilbert
    Edward S Gilbert Member Posts: 1

      You can get the Logos app on your Kindle Fire cause it's on mine.If you log into Amazon.com and look under Android apps you should be able to find both the Logos app and the Vyrsos app.Alas Amazon won't let you download the Vyrsos app.

  • JT (alabama24)
    JT (alabama24) MVP Posts: 36,512

    Josh Hunt said:

    still no Vyrso app for kindle fire?

    Vyrso is available on the Kindle Fire through the Android store. A better place to ask these kinds of questions is in the Andriod forum since there are more users in that forum... especially ones with Android devices. [:)] The Vyrso forum doesn't get nearly as much traffic.

    Here is a post from Logos about it:


    Amazon has now approved the 2.1.2 versions of the Bible, Vyrso, and FSB apps. It would be helpful if someone with a Kindle Fire HD device could confirm that the apps are now available without needing to side load them.

    One of the benefits of installing the apps from the Amazon Appstore is a higher resolution launch icon.

    Still waiting on Biblia approval but that should be coming soon.

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