Surprising permissions for 0.9.2
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What are Presentations? What is Proclaim?
See http://community.logos.com/forums/94.aspx
I read many of the posts in that link and still have no idea what it is. I presume, if I never installed it on my PC or Kindle Fire, it is NOT operating there. I turned off my Presentations Preference in the Kindle Fire for Logos.
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Proclaim is new software Logos have developed to project songs, Bible passages etc during a church service.
It projects Presemtations and the mobile apps (iOS or android) have the ability to integrate with what is being presented. This is why you get asked if you want Presentations support in your kindle app.
Graham
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I turned off my Presentations Preference in the Kindle Fire for Logos.
That's to protect you from responding to a Proclaim "hot spot" irrespective of whether the app is installed on your device.
Dave
===Windows 11 & Android 13
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I absolutely agree with you Brent.
Eliminate ALL unneccessary permissions, AT LEAST eliminate CONTACT read.
I'm sure you all know this, but here is what the premission description says under Your personal information:
NEW: Read contact data
Allows an application to read all of the contact (address) data stored on your phone. Malicious applications can use this to send your data to onther people.
NEW: Write contact data
Allows an application to modify the contact (address) data stored on your phone. Malicious applications can use this to erase or modify your contact data
This is Your accounts:
NEW: Discover known accounts
Allows an application to get the list of accounts know by the phone.
Why does a Bible software need that???
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As for access to contacts - right now it may have something to do with the Proclaim feature, however eventually to have great features like sharing a verse or quote from a resource in your library, the Logos app will need access to our contacts. Without access to our contacts, the potential for a share feature to fully operate is eliminated
Users can use cut-n-paste, or you could implement share using social media api, or maybe your app could launch email and pre-populate (letting email app access the contacts). Its true that the share feature you envision is fully impossible without access to contacts, but there are other ways to share.
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Yes, choosing not to follow presentations does stop the use of location services as well as eliminates the possibility the app will ever read or update your contacts. These actions are only ever performed when the user taps on a proclaim signal.
We put this in our app product description in Google Play to be as up front as possible:
ACCESS_FINE_LOCATION -- for finding nearby Proclaim presentations
READ_CONTACTS, WRITE_CONTACTS, GET_ACCOUNTS -- for adding contacts from a Proclaim presentationLogos does not:
* Track or record your location
* Read specific contact information (only gets the name of your contacts group, only when adding a contact from a presentation)
* Modify any contact information without the user requesting adding a contact0 -
Yes, choosing not to follow presentations does stop the use of location services as well as eliminates the possibility the app will ever read or update your contacts. These actions are only ever performed when the user taps on a proclaim signal.
Could we have a version of the App that doesn't contain this functionality and so doen't need the permissions? Then people could choose to download the version with these permissions only if they need to use them.
I'm currently stuck on v0.9.1 because of the security concerns with 0.9.2 and later.
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Yes, choosing not to follow presentations does stop the use of location services as well as eliminates the possibility the app will ever read or update your contacts. These actions are only ever performed when the user taps on a proclaim signal.
Could we have a version of the App that doesn't contain this functionality and so doen't need the permissions? Then people could choose to download the version with these permissions only if they need to use them.
I'm currently stuck on v0.9.1 because of the security concerns with 0.9.2 and later.
Hi BriM,
I will discuss your suggestion with our Development team again but I don't think this will happen. As already mentioned, there is an option in the app to disable following Proclaim presentations, which means Proclaim signals will never appear on your device (which therefore means Logos will never read or update your contacts). From your device there is also probably a way to disable location services within Android before installing Logos - although this might cripple other applications on your device that rely on it. I apologize if Dave and Gabe's assurances are not good enough to satisfy your concerns.
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