Logos was God

I have the full set of the Millenial Harbinger by Alexander Campbell. Many years ago I read a series of articles written by Campbell explaining why the Holy Spirit chose the word, logos, as the expression of the preincarnate Jesus by the Apostle John.

I guess I dreamed it, since I can not find that series of articles. Perhaps I am mistaken that Campbell wrote it, but I didn't think so. Can anyone help steer me to these articles. By the way, they were very dry, but well thought out.

Gary

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I have the full set of the Millenial Harbinger by Alexander Campbell. Many years ago I read a series of articles written by Campbell explaining why the Holy Spirit chose the word, logos, as the expression of the preincarnate Jesus by the Apostle John.

I guess I dreamed it, since I can not find that series of articles. Perhaps I am mistaken that Campbell wrote it, but I didn't think so. Can anyone help steer me to these articles. By the way, they were very dry, but well thought out.

Gary

Yeah, I can’t remember any right off-hand. But you are correct in that the logos [word] was God as in Jn1.1, but it was the logos as an expression by definition of the word logos. Sorry to say that Jesus was not preincarnate, if he was then many things that Jesus spoke that are recorded by John in the Gospel of John are contradictory to John's prologue, because if he was then there would be many others as well, all according to Scripture. But this is not a theological issue, purely Scripture.

Hope this helps some.....

Gary

I understand what you are saying about Jesus not being preincarnate, but I didn't know how to word the question without saying it like I did. If I had used logos it would have been confusing.

Anyway, I know I read something by Campbell that he wrote where he dealt with the choice of the word, logos. I am beginning to think it wasn't in the Harbinger.

Room4more

Gary,

No offense taken – none intended….Thanks

Room4more

Gary, try starting in "Philalethes Strictures on John" I think it is vII or vIII

Room4more

Gary, heres another section where he goes on:

N0.2 VIII, Archippus----

didn't read the whole thing...just skimmed it, I'll leave the reading to you...

Hope this helps....

Mike Pettit

Sorry to say that Jesus was not preincarnate, if he was then many things that Jesus spoke that are recorded by John in the Gospel of John are contradictory to John's prologue, because if he was then there would be many others as well, all according to Scripture. But this is not a theological issue, purely Scripture.

Please at least try not to argue theological issues.

Room4more

Mike, nobody is arguing anything. Are u trying to start something? But if you want to say that theology rules over Scripture.....sounds like a personal issue to me..............you missed the bus.

Hope this helps.

Sogol

Every Christian thinks that their theology is just Scripture. I'm yet to meet anyone who says, "My theology is a combination of philosophical speculation and unconscious personal biases."

Logos can correct me if I'm wrong, but I suspect that their intention in discouraging theological discussions here really means that we should avoid making statements which we know are likely to provoke theological controversy/offense, and thus make these forums an unhappy place. I would hope that everyone would be informed enough to know of (and avoid) the obvious topics that are likely to stir up trouble.

Room4more

So your's[Sogol] and Mike's suggestion to helping him[Gary] is where? You're attempting to derive to a conclusion base on your apparent personal desires..............

Hope this helps.

Mark O'Hearn

Confused. Just for clarification for the casual reader of this thread, was it being corrected that Jesus as the God Man came into the world [existence] at a point in [our] time, but not that the Son (Word) wasn't eternally with the Father, right? In other words, the Son of God didn't always exist as Jesus Christ. It was just unclear to me. A simple yes or no as I will adhere to the debate rules imposed at these forums.

Regards

Room4more

Confused. Just for clarification to the casual reader of this thread - Jesus is the Son of God, and the Son of God was eternally with the Father - opposed to what I believe was being corrected, that the Son (Word) came into the world at a point in time as the God Man, Christ Jesus. Is this the point to the correction of the original post? It was just unclear to me. A simple yes or no as I will adhere to the debate rules imposed at these forums.

Regards

I am a little confused too. But my suggesstional offer is to carry on this conversation here . But in regards to the op's initial statement, if you have the book(s) then might I suggest reading the two places I directed him to.....

Hope this helps.

Todd Phillips

I have the full set of the Millenial Harbinger by Alexander Campbell. Many years ago I read a series of articles written by Campbell explaining why the Holy Spirit chose the word, logos, as the expression of the preincarnate Jesus by the Apostle John.

I guess I dreamed it, since I can not find that series of articles. Perhaps I am mistaken that Campbell wrote it, but I didn't think so. Can anyone help steer me to these articles. By the way, they were very dry, but well thought out.

Gary

Back to your original question...a search of Google books is something I find helpful when the resources I need are not in Logos.

https://www.google.com/search?tbm=bks&hl=en&q=Alexander+Campbell+%22he+has+chosen+the+term+logos%22&btnG=

Does this help?:

(I originally just searched on Alexander Campbell logos but then I did the phrase search above to see if it appeared in other volumes)

Room4more

Todd,

I did a search and found this, this is closer to mine…there is no Logos resource that I know of....

Hope this helps.

Keep Smiling 4 Jesus :)

I have the full set of the Millenial Harbinger by Alexander Campbell. Many years ago I read a series of articles written by Campbell explaining why the Holy Spirit chose the word, logos, as the expression of the preincarnate Jesus by the Apostle John.

I guess I dreamed it, since I can not find that series of articles. Perhaps I am mistaken that Campbell wrote it, but I didn't think so. Can anyone help steer me to these articles. By the way, they were very dry, but well thought out.

Gary

Back to your original question...a search of Google books is something I find helpful when the resources I need are not in Logos.

https://www.google.com/search?tbm=bks&hl=en&q=Alexander+Campbell+%22he+has+chosen+the+term+logos%22&btnG=

Does this help?:

(I originally just searched on Alexander Campbell logos but then I did the phrase search above to see if it appeared in other volumes)

For contrast and comparison using Logos 4, could search Heading Text; Large Text for Logos

Found many encyclopedia articles, including:

Also found some articles in => The Essential IVP Reference Collection Version 3

Keep Smiling [:)]

Josh

Confused. Just for clarification for the casual reader of this thread, was it being corrected that Jesus as the God Man came into the world [existence] at a point in [our] time, but not that the Son (Word) wasn't eternally with the Father, right? In other words, the Son of God didn't always exist as Jesus Christ. It was just unclear to me. A simple yes or no as I will adhere to the debate rules imposed at these forums.

Regards

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