Logos was God

Gary said:

I have the full set of the Millenial Harbinger by Alexander Campbell.  Many years ago I read a series of articles written by Campbell explaining why the Holy Spirit chose the word, logos, as the expression of the preincarnate Jesus by the Apostle John.

I guess I dreamed it, since I can not find that series of articles.  Perhaps I am mistaken that Campbell wrote it, but I didn't think so.  Can anyone help steer me to these articles.  By the way, they were very dry, but well thought out.

Gary

Yeah, I can’t remember any right off-hand. But you are correct in that the logos [word] was God as in Jn1.1, but it was the logos as an expression by definition of the word logos. Sorry to say that Jesus was not preincarnate, if he was then many things that Jesus spoke that are recorded by John in the Gospel of John are contradictory to John's prologue, because if he was then there would be many others as well, all according to Scripture. But this is not a theological issue, purely Scripture.

Hope this helps some.....

Gary,

No offense taken – none intended….Thanks

Gary, heres another section where he goes on:

N0.2 VIII, Archippus----

didn't read the whole thing...just skimmed it, I'll leave the reading to you...

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Mike, nobody is arguing anything. Are u trying to start something? But if you want to say that theology rules over Scripture.....sounds like a personal issue to me..............you missed the bus.

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So your's[Sogol] and Mike's suggestion to helping him[Gary] is where? You're attempting to derive to a conclusion base on your apparent personal desires..............

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Mark O'Hearn said:

Confused.  Just for clarification to the casual reader of this thread - Jesus is the Son of God, and the Son of God was eternally with the Father - opposed to what I believe was being corrected, that the Son (Word) came into the world at a point in time as the God Man, Christ Jesus.  Is this the point to the correction of the original post?  It was just unclear to me.  A simple yes or no as I will adhere to the debate rules imposed at these forums.

Regards

I am a little confused too. But my suggesstional offer is to carry on this conversation here . But in regards to the op's initial statement, if you have the book(s) then might I suggest reading the two places I directed him to.....

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Todd,

 I did a search and found  this, this is closer to mine…there is no Logos resource that I know of....

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Mark O'Hearn said:

Confused.  Just for clarification for the casual reader of this thread, was it being corrected that Jesus as the God Man came into the world [existence] at a point in [our] time, but not that the Son (Word) wasn't eternally with the Father, right?  In other words, the Son of God didn't always exist as Jesus Christ.  It was just unclear to me.  A simple yes or no as I will adhere to the debate rules imposed at these forums.

Regards

Room4more is a member of a group called the Christadelphians. Arguing with him on this forum wont get you anywhere. For more on his beliefs go HERE instead.

Folks, actually when I said I looking for clarification of the original post, I actually just meant what I posted was not clear to me.  In hindsight I realize how people can request clarification with the aim to start a debate.  Sometimes folks just mean what they say about needing clarification.[;)]

While I do not share the beliefs of everyone who participates at the Logos forums, I have come to the conclusion a long time ago that I have to see the truth for myself; it cannot be wrestled from me in a debate unless it is revealed to me in Scripture.  I assume it is the same for everyone else too.

Best regards

Gary, there’s an interesting writ in the just released http://www.logos.com/product/6324/a-dictionary-of-christ-and-the-gospels located on pp481[Logos]\

[EDIT: I'll post part of the conclusion:

p 484 2.3. Conclusion. [...] If John was thinking of any of the particular background dis cussed earlier in this article, it is not yet clear which one he had in mind. But his use of logos in the rest of the Gospel (which is the only evidence we have of his intentions) seems to imply that the word he is speaking of is that prophetic word which goes forth from God’s mouth to accomplish creation, judgment, redemption and renewal. John uses logos because it is the natural word for expressing the meaning of the Hebrew word dāḇar when that word was used in the context of God’s revelation. Beginning with its first sentences the Gospel asserts that Jesus is God’s final Revelator (cf. Heb 1:1–2). This assertion corresponds to the evangelistic purpose of the Gospel (Carson) and fits well with recent hypotheses that the original historical context of the Fourth Gospel was a debate with first-century Judaism over the locus of revelation (cf. Carter, 47 n. 82).

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